my first system plz i need advice

[munisgtm]

hi,i live here in Pakistan ,the thing is im building my first system my other computers
were all my brother's ,im totally in gaming n basically building this rig for gamin only ,i have an extremely tight budget the config i have come up is this:
A64 3200+(i have decided to go for this one)
asus a8n-e/msi k8neo4-f(platinum is out of stock here)
7900gt
2GB Kingston RAM(this looks good)
cooler master 430 watts psu
80GB sata wd hdd(ill buy more after a while not, enuff money)
a cheap no-name case

[Edit] i will continue to use my CRT so im cuttin the lcd off my list

 

[AssistantPimp]

take at least 160Gb HDD...can you tell the prices of components you are taking and how much budget do you have?!

 

[PurdueRy]

back off on the monitor or the graphics card and get AT LEAST a gig of ram

 

[Bobthelost]

Cheaper RAM than ballistix, if you can get 2GB of budget RAM then that's much better than 1GB of overclocking RAM, if not then 1GB of value RAM is much better value than overclocking stuff, the money saved can go towards the CPU.

 

[alimoalem]

stick with a 3200+ for the cpu...unless you can somehow get upto a dual core 3800. if you can wait until july 24, amd is cutting prices and the 3800x2 (dual core) will be around $169.

i agree with bob, crucial is great ram for overclocking but i don't think you'll be doing much of that. try getting some cheaper ram from g.skill, corsair, ocz, patriot, or kingston. try getting 2x1gb.

could you tell us the prices you can get these items for in pakistan? and are there any websites that you can use to purchase your items? if so, list them cause we might be able to find some better parts....

 

[munisgtm]

yeah there is a website site,now im thinkin i shud buy the 2gb value RAM , but i dont understand about the cpu y shud i get 3200+ n not 3500+,.i can spend 46000-52000 rupees(our currency) on the rig and on tht website prices os 3500+ n 3200+ r not given but i know their prices 3500+ is 15500 rupees n 3200+ is 11000 ruppes,anyways u guys r awesome always helpful .

 

[Bobthelost]

If you're overclocking then get the cheaper one. They'll both OC to around the same point.

If you're not overclocking then more CPU is always nice to have, but it's not essential. If you can get 2GB of RAM, the 7900GT and still afford the 3500 then go for it. If not then i'd drop the CPU to the 3200 before losing any of the rest of it.

 

[munisgtm]

yea im sure ill be overclocking to get most out of the system.i wanted to ask one more thing tht is there a big difference between SATA n SATA2 ?

 

[PurdueRy]

Originally posted by: munisgtm
yea im sure ill be overclocking to get most out of the system.i wanted to ask one more thing tht is there a big difference between SATA n SATA2 ?

There is no real-world performance difference

 

[acegazda]

I don't believe in getting a coolermaster psu as the best option. "They've done studies you know... 60% of the time, it works every time." To quote anchorman of course, but I gues that applies to this psu as well. Perhaps an enermax liberty 400w or even a fortron 450w. The fortron is $50 which is a great buy for a good. Everything else people said is great.

 

[munisgtm]

what about the motherboard , a8n-e or k8neo4-f ?which one overclocks better ?

 

[munisgtm]

?

 

[acegazda]

the msi neo4 platinum is probably the best nf4ultra board out there, but it's more expensive than the a8n-e. Both are great ocing boards, but the a8n-e has had a few problems, the 1t bug. I'd recommend it despite.

 

[bennny]

i have oc'd on both of them, and i found them to be very equivelent. I would go with the asus, just because they have some cool bios auto resets for when your computer wont post.

 

[munisgtm]

in here K8neo4-f is available not platinum version u kno any big difference between them ?

 

[acegazda]

not really, they're both the same chipsets. Can't find a difference in the specs.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Just did a quick check. 52000 Rupees is about $863 USD. Thought I'd mention it to keep reccomendations in line.

 

[munisgtm]

and 1 more question ,is 3200+ underpowered for 7900gt even after overclocking ?

 

[acegazda]

no, I can't think of a game where the cpu would be the bottleneck.

 

[Icepick]

Originally posted by: munisgtm
in here K8neo4-f is available not platinum version u kno any big difference between them ?

The difference is that there is no IEEE 1394 (firewire) support on the neo4-f. There is on the Platinum. I believe the Platinum model was discontinued so that's not going to be an option anyway.

 

[munisgtm]

hey i was thinkin about e6300 which is just released it will come here in like 20-25 days ,how will it compare to 3200+ ?if its good then what mobo should i go for ?

 

[munisgtm]

?

 

[munisgtm]

?

 

[akshayt]

I live in India and even here the variety you guys are talking of is not available.

I would suggest:

Wait for Intel Core 2 Duo more price falls else,

amd 64 3500, there is very little difference in price between 3500 and 3000 or between 3500 and 3200, the price diff will be like 10$ here.

Asus A8N E

X1800XT, if very expensive as here then get 7900GT

1GB X 2 DDR 400 transcend (UCCC chips, if not available then get Hynix D43 chips)

atleast a 160gb hdd, 250gb is for 4200 and 300gb for 4800 only

Antec SP(Smart Power 2) 450 or Antec NeoHE 430

 

[munisgtm]

but akashay the problem is tht i can wait for the e6300 but wat abt the mobo i need a decent overclocker and conroe mobos are so expensive ? i dont have enough money my man!