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My first religion thread....

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Originally posted by: Kenazo
I believe Stigmata was about the Gospel of Thomas...there's no secret there it's been kicking around for 2000 years.

I think you have stumbled on to a better point than the one you started with...namely the issue of what constitutes the Christian canon, even among Protestants and Catholics there is some disagreement. We are fairly certain that we have accurate copies of the books which make up the canon, whether other books should be included and for what reasons they are not considered 'inspired' is a much more contentious issue.

Also, as for the accuracy of Jewish scribes, yes they were extremely accurate, but they also made mistakes which are evident in some manuscripts (these are mistakes such as the wrong letter - such as a rosh instead of the daleth, or skipping an entire line).
A wrong letter I'm sure happened (as proven with the Dead Sea Scrolls' Isaiah), but skipping an entire line, no. That is precisely why they compared the letter counts from the original to the copy. Can you provide proof of your claim?
 
The sad thing about religion and faith and the notion of literal exactness is that the obvious fact that the Bible is not literally true drives literalists to distraction trying to prove it is, and and rationalists to distraction listening to the dissembling. What gets lost is the secret within, the reality to which all religions are a bridge. It isn't the bridge that's important, but the crossing.
 
If you gave me time I could try to find a quote on it somewhere. You have to remember that there were many schools of scribes, not all were as strict as those you are speaking of, also it depends on what texts they were copying. Also, remember that there are many copies of scrolls, and even versions (yes even of the OT such as the Samaritan Pentateuch).
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The sad thing about religion and faith and the notion of literal exactness is that the obvious fact that the Bible is not literally true drives literalists to distraction trying to prove it is, and and rationalists to distraction listening to the dissembling. What gets lost is the secret within, the reality to which all religions are a bridge. It isn't the bridge that's important, but the crossing.

There is some important truth to that... truth which I am just now beginning to discover... although even that is infantile.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The sad thing about religion and faith and the notion of literal exactness is that the obvious fact that the Bible is not literally true drives literalists to distraction trying to prove it is, and and rationalists to distraction listening to the dissembling. What gets lost is the secret within, the reality to which all religions are a bridge. It isn't the bridge that's important, but the crossing.

Nietzsche, is that you ?
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The sad thing about religion and faith and the notion of literal exactness is that the obvious fact that the Bible is not literally true drives literalists to distraction trying to prove it is, and and rationalists to distraction listening to the dissembling. What gets lost is the secret within, the reality to which all religions are a bridge. It isn't the bridge that's important, but the crossing.

Yeah well, you will have a he// of a time crossing bridge that isn't intact. However, I do agree that most people should examine what they mean when they speak of divine inspiration before getting all polemical about literal interpretation.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The sad thing about religion and faith and the notion of literal exactness is that the obvious fact that the Bible is not literally true drives literalists to distraction trying to prove it is, and and rationalists to distraction listening to the dissembling. What gets lost is the secret within, the reality to which all religions are a bridge. It isn't the bridge that's important, but the crossing.

3 years here and I've never understood anything Moony has had to say.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The sad thing about religion and faith and the notion of literal exactness is that the obvious fact that the Bible is not literally true drives literalists to distraction trying to prove it is, and and rationalists to distraction listening to the dissembling. What gets lost is the secret within, the reality to which all religions are a bridge. It isn't the bridge that's important, but the crossing.
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3 years here and I've never understood anything Moony has had to say.


Strange, I find Moonbeam one of the more enlightened members...
 
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