My first build

[velillen]

About those 3 fans, your probably right about those. And I will (in the future) be installing heavier and more powerfull CPU's in combination with bigger watercoolers. So I'll be better of with LEDs so i dont waste money on fans that will be trown away and dont add much performance. Ty.

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Will i be able to hook the LEDs up to my fan controller?

That actually reminds me, you want to check the fans on your case. On the antec 900 (my case) they are the molex conectors not the 3 pins. So to use them with your fan controller you would need to buy a converter. Something to keep in mind. i dont know what your cases fans have.

Look at Cold Cathods. Those are what i was recommending over led fans. You wouldnt really need an independant led/cathod hooked up to your fan controller.....

If your planning on buying a proper watercooler setup in the near future why bother with the h50? just use stock and get thee pc all set up then add in a custom loop of your choosing. least thats what i would do.

 

[Sp12]

For the uninitiated, 1600 euros is about 1981 dollars.

That case takes up a full 1/6 of your budget, and isn't really the best case for air-cooling. These are some of the most highly rated cases on newegg. The 800D does have some nice cable management though.

Wherever you're buying it from is 40$ more expensive than Newegg's, despite conversation rates.

The power supply is only bronze certified for efficiency (not sure if relevant in Europe), this Seasonic is gold certified and only 20$ more expensive.

For video editing, an 1156 i7 would be best. Here's a faster, unlocked i7 for 66 more euros. It's not an awesome price, but you'll want hyperthreading for video editing. Alternatively here's a slightly faster, locked i7 for 30 more Euros.

The only set of corsair memory I can recommend is this as it's 1.5 volts and 1600 speed. However, it is 165 dollars for 4 GB, while a comparable set of G.Skill Ripjaws is only ~92 dollars for 4GB.

I do think you can fit a blu-ray burner into your budget.

Here's a quick motherboard comparison between some of the better P55 mobos. This is just quick look at how that board stacks up, and is not inclusive at all.

A revised build:

Antec 900 100 Much more reasonable
Seasonic 650 modular/750 watt model for 160/180 More efficient
2x4GB Ripjaws 200 (before coupon code for 20 off) Cheaper, just as good
i7 875k 330 Faster, unlocked, hyperthreading
Hyper 212+ cooler/H50 50/80 Comparable performance
5850 320 (overpriced, but I'm unable to find reference for cheaper)

Blu-ray burner 130 one time expense, carryable to next build
Ga-P55a UD3 or UD4 130/175 Cheaper, better ratings, UD3 for non-crossfire, Ud4 for

Samsung f3 70 better ratings, cheaper

1490 USD/1202 euros. (assuming the hyper 212+ud3, H50+ud4 add 75USD/60 euros)

The things you want:
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer €40,36
VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03 €36,94
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm €4,99

Add about an another 100 euros. I didn't include the fans as the Antec comes with them, and I didn't include the controller because it's not necessary to manually adjust fans, the 900 uses molex anyway.

Your possible increases in expenditure include: 800D case+lots of fans, custom watercooling, X58 platform.

 

[mfenn]

About those 3 fans, your probably right about those. And I will (in the future) be installing heavier and more powerfull CPU's in combination with bigger watercoolers. So I'll be better of with LEDs so i dont waste money on fans that will be trown away and dont add much performance. Ty.

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Will i be able to hook the LEDs up to my fan controller?

By LEDs, do you mean LED fans or just LEDs? Can you link to what you're thinking about?

 

[brammeke11]

By LEDs, do you mean LED fans or just LEDs? Can you link to what you're thinking about?

I'll throw the LED Fans out and replace them with normal lighting.
In the future, i'll probably upgrade to a better cpu and watercooling system, so with more experience i might start overclocking. I'm not spending money for something ALMOST unnessecary that i'll throw away in the future.

Back to the question:
I'm thinking of any lighting I can hook up to the fan controller so I can controll the brightness from outside the case.

 

[brammeke11]

For the uninitiated, 1600 euros is about 1981 dollars.

That case takes up a full 1/6 of your budget, and isn't really the best case for air-cooling. These are some of the most highly rated cases on newegg. The 800D does have some nice cable management though.

Wherever you're buying it from is 40$ more expensive than Newegg's, despite conversation rates.

The power supply is only bronze certified for efficiency (not sure if relevant in Europe), this Seasonic is gold certified and only 20$ more expensive.

For video editing, an 1156 i7 would be best. Here's a faster, unlocked i7 for 66 more euros. It's not an awesome price, but you'll want hyperthreading for video editing. Alternatively here's a slightly faster, locked i7 for 30 more Euros.

The only set of corsair memory I can recommend is this as it's 1.5 volts and 1600 speed. However, it is 165 dollars for 4 GB, while a comparable set of G.Skill Ripjaws is only ~92 dollars for 4GB.

I do think you can fit a blu-ray burner into your budget.

Here's a quick motherboard comparison between some of the better P55 mobos. This is just quick look at how that board stacks up, and is not inclusive at all.

A revised build:

Antec 900 100 Much more reasonable
Seasonic 650 modular/750 watt model for 160/180 More efficient
2x4GB Ripjaws 200 (before coupon code for 20 off) Cheaper, just as good
i7 875k 330 Faster, unlocked, hyperthreading
Hyper 212+ cooler/H50 50/80 Comparable performance
5850 320 (overpriced, but I'm unable to find reference for cheaper)

Blu-ray burner 130 one time expense, carryable to next build
Ga-P55a UD3 or UD4 130/175 Cheaper, better ratings, UD3 for non-crossfire, Ud4 for

Samsung f3 70 better ratings, cheaper

1490 USD/1202 euros. (assuming the hyper 212+ud3, H50+ud4 add 75USD/60 euros)

The things you want:
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer €40,36
VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03 €36,94
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm €4,99

Add about an another 100 euros. I didn't include the fans as the Antec comes with them, and I didn't include the controller because it's not necessary to manually adjust fans, the 900 uses molex anyway.

Your possible increases in expenditure include: 800D case+lots of fans, custom watercooling, X58 platform.

There is not much of my stuff left in there. lol
I just love the case. It's big and it fits my desk perfectly.


All my prices are from www.tweakers.net and are minimun prices.

 

[mfenn]

I'll throw the LED Fans out and replace them with normal lighting.
In the future, i'll probably upgrade to a better cpu and watercooling system, so with more experience i might start overclocking. I'm not spending money for something ALMOST unnessecary that i'll throw away in the future.

Back to the question:
I'm thinking of any lighting I can hook up to the fan controller so I can controll the brightness from outside the case.

Yes, you should be able to adjust the brightness of LEDs with a fan controller. One caveat, this will only work if the fan controller uses voltage adjustment to control the fan speed. If it requires PWM fans, then it won't work for the lighting.

 

[brammeke11]

Yes, you should be able to adjust the brightness of LEDs with a fan controller. One caveat, this will only work if the fan controller uses voltage adjustment to control the fan speed. If it requires PWM fans, then it won't work for the lighting.

The Kaze Master Pro 5.25" works with Voltage adjustement, yeah

 

[itsmevader]

Hi,
I did research one month to build my new system and this is what I configured.

Intel I7 930
MSI X58 motheboard
6 GB ddr3 ram
1 TB harddisk
Nvidia GTX 460
Cooler Master
all for $800.
Remember this is without monitors, as I already have new rocking DELL SX2210

I did not buy system because I felt this is not good time to buy a PC. processor market is extremely volatile.

 

[brammeke11]

I made a total new build for comparison. The total opposite from the first one. I started with the idea that the 800D, though i love it, was a bit expensive and didn't have a good air circulation.

Chassis: Antec Twelve Hundred €137,10
PSU: Antec TruePower TP-750 Blue €114,20
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition €164,95
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5870 graphics €379,61
Moederbord: Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 €133,00
RAM: Corsair 8GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module €224,30
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB €83,00
ODD: Samsung SH-S222A €19,23
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller €30,00
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer €40,36
Lichting: idk (max. €20) €20,00
TOTAAL €1345,80

Less shit in the case, I can always buy accessories after it al works.
And you know what. I like this one better lol.

 

[beginner99]

Isn't just 1 HDD not so ideal when doing video editing?
And 1 TB isn't that much if you have HD-videos.

An ideal (= expensive) setup would be 1 ssd + 2 hdd in raid 0.

But at least I would prefer 2x 500 GB in raid 0 for video editing.

I would go Intel. Honestly I see 0 reasons to go AMD for a general usage pattern. An i7 with HT ist just much better in all aspects than a Phenom II X4. Faster + needs less power.

I would still get a different case focusing on silent pc and in general a smaller case.
have you really meassured the space you have? These cases are huge IMHO.

 

[brammeke11]

Isn't just 1 HDD not so ideal when doing video editing?
And 1 TB isn't that much if you have HD-videos.

An ideal (= expensive) setup would be 1 ssd + 2 hdd in raid 0.

But at least I would prefer 2x 500 GB in raid 0 for video editing.

I would go Intel. Honestly I see 0 reasons to go AMD for a general usage pattern. An i7 with HT ist just much better in all aspects than a Phenom II X4. Faster + needs less power.

I would still get a different case focusing on silent pc and in general a smaller case.
have you really meassured the space you have? These cases are huge IMHO.

I have a maximun of 70cm of hight.
I have a question: What does HT stands for?
So you say an i7 CPU with an Asus P6T maybe?
But will the i7 be a good match with the ATI HD 5870?
And about the HDDs, what size should the SSD be?

 

[Ausm]

What is this computer going to be primarily used for this should be the first question asked.

 

[brammeke11]

What is this computer going to be primarily used for this should be the first question asked.

Already told that:
"Gaming and video editing. Decent quality and aimed a bit to the future."

 

[Sp12]

Hi,
I did research one month to build my new system and this is what I configured.

Nvidia GTX 460

I did not buy system because I felt this is not good time to buy a PC. processor market is extremely volatile.

I have no idea where you were able to obtain an unreleased video card.

I have a maximun of 70cm of hight.
I have a question: What does HT stands for?
So you say an i7 CPU with an Asus P6T maybe?
But will the i7 be a good match with the ATI HD 5870?
And about the HDDs, what size should the SSD be?

HT=hyperthreading. A single CPU core shows itself as two, which helps some tasks like video editing.

An i7, i5-750, or AMD 945+ X4 or 1055t+ X6 will all be fine and not bottleneck a 5870.

SSDs are typically small, as the cost per gigabyte is pretty high. The 'ideal setup' is a 60-120 gb SSD and a set of 2tb hard drives in raid, but you don't need that.

As for the 5870 as a whole, it's not the best price/performance part in the high-end. The 5850 is 25% cheaper but has 80-90% of the performance (and can overclock to match).

 

[busydude]

I have no idea where you were able to obtain an unreleased video card.

Ignore itsmevader, he is a troll.

And to OP, your new build looks good. I too like the idea of going for a 5850. You can even spend the extra money towards a Phenom II x6. That is a great processor considering you do a lot of video editing.

 

[brammeke11]

Ignore itsmevader, he is a troll.

And to OP, your new build looks good. I too like the idea of going for a 5850. You can even spend the extra money towards a Phenom II x6. That is a great processor considering you do a lot of video editing.

Alright then the 5850 it will be.
I'm not going to do A LOT of video editing.
Well actually it should be aimed at gaming first and then on photo- and videoediting. And ofcourse Word and stuff.
Forgot to mention the OS. I'll take of that myself :sneaky:

But i still cant deside between the
AMD Phenom II with the Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 and 8Gb RAM (Corsair kit)
or
Intel i7-920 with the Asus P6X58D-E and 6Gb RAM (also Corsair kit)

 

[Sp12]

Alright then the 5850 it will be.
I'm not going to do A LOT of video editing.
Well actually it should be aimed at gaming first and then on photo- and videoediting. And ofcourse Word and stuff.
Forgot to mention the OS. I'll take of that myself :sneaky:

But i still cant deside between the
AMD Phenom II with the Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 and 8Gb RAM (Corsair kit)
or
Intel i7-920 with the Asus P6X58D-E and 6Gb RAM (also Corsair kit)

I still think you're overpaying by ~40% for the ram compared to a G.skill kit, regardless, make sure your ram runs at 1600 and 1.5 volts.

I also think you should consider a P55 platform, the turbo boost on those processors is much more relevant than triple channel memory.

 

[brammeke11]

I still think you're overpaying by ~40% for the ram compared to a G.skill kit, regardless, make sure your ram runs at 1600 and 1.5 volts.

I also think you should consider a P55 platform, the turbo boost on those processors is much more relevant than triple channel memory.

I'll stick with the i7 setup. If i run into problems I always can ask here or in my local pc shop.

Ty for the tip

 

[brammeke11]

I still think you're overpaying by ~40% for the ram compared to a G.skill kit, regardless, make sure your ram runs at 1600 and 1.5 volts.

I also think you should consider a P55 platform, the turbo boost on those processors is much more relevant than triple channel memory.

Do you mean this RAM? The P6X58D-E isn't in the compatible list!
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=105

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

second attempt:
Chassis: Corsair Obsidian 800D
PSU: Corsair HX650W Modular Power Supply
CPU: Intel i7-920
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 graphics
VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03
VGA Cooler: Thermalright VRM-R4
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 8cm
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module 6Gb
RAM Cooling: Corsair CMXAF2
ODD: Samsung Blu-ray Combo SH-B083L
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller
Extra cooling: Enermax Apollish Fan Blue (x3)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black
Moederbord: Asus P6T
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer

I need the extra VGA cooling because i have dual monitors and my current one peaks at 75C

Extra VGA cooling and water cooling - unnecessary.
Using an external drive for storage - disagree with. oh, it's USB? HIGHLY HIGHLY disagree with.

 

[brammeke11]

Extra VGA cooling and water cooling - unnecessary.
Using an external drive for storage - disagree with. oh, it's USB? HIGHLY HIGHLY disagree with.

I think you're a few posts behind mate. :hmm:

 

[mfenn]

Alright then the 5850 it will be.
I'm not going to do A LOT of video editing.
Well actually it should be aimed at gaming first and then on photo- and videoediting. And ofcourse Word and stuff.
Forgot to mention the OS. I'll take of that myself :sneaky:

But i still cant deside between the
AMD Phenom II with the Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 and 8Gb RAM (Corsair kit)
or
Intel i7-920 with the Asus P6X58D-E and 6Gb RAM (also Corsair kit)

If you going to just be doing home movies type of stuff, you don't really need to worry about getting any kind of video-editing specific parts (multiple HDDs. hexa-core, etc.). An all-around fast PC will do casual video editing just fine.

I like the AMD build you posted above with a few modifications:

• Get cheaper RAM. Also, avoid 8GB kits as there is substantial markup over 2 4GB kits. Two of these would be perfect.
• I wouldn't bother with the 965 because the 955 is also a black edition. It is 1 BIOS change to turn a 955 into a 965.
• I would probably go with a Corsair 650TX for the PSU

 

[brammeke11]

If you going to just be doing home movies type of stuff, you don't really need to worry about getting any kind of video-editing specific parts (multiple HDDs. hexa-core, etc.). An all-around fast PC will do casual video editing just fine.

I like the AMD build you posted above with a few modifications:

• Get cheaper RAM. Also, avoid 8GB kits as there is substantial markup over 2 4GB kits. Two of these would be perfect.
• I wouldn't bother with the 965 because the 955 is also a black edition. It is 1 BIOS change to turn a 955 into a 965.
• I would probably go with a Corsair 650TX for the PSU

I'm going to visit the pc shop were i gonna order all my parts. I show them both builds: AMD and Intel. After all, those are not far appart from eachother, are they.
Imma see what they say, maybe they have something in discount.

 

[brammeke11]

So just for the record, i'll be taking these builds with me (in a document thats is ). And I Gave them names :

Black Ice P1.0:
Chassis: Antec Twelve Hundred
€137,10
PSU: Antec TruePower TP-750 Blue
€114,20
CPU: Intel i7-920
€209,25
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 graphics
€280,29
Moederbord: P6X58D-E
€219,64
RAM: Corsair Dominator 6GB DDR3 SDRAM
€177,05
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
€83,00
ODD: Samsung SH-S222A
€19,23
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller
€30,00
Cardreader: Conceptronic Multifunction eSATA
€20,96
Extra lighting
€20,00
TOTAAL
€1310,72


Black Ice P1.5:
Chassis: Antec Twelve Hundred
€137,10
PSU: Antec TruePower TP-750 Blue
€114,20
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 black Edition
€149,00
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 graphics
€280,29
Moederbord: Asus M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
€133,90
RAM: GeIL GV34GB1600C9DC 4Gb (x2) (106,98 p/s)
€213,96
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
€83,00
ODD: Samsung SH-S222A
€19,23
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller
€30,00
Cardreader: Conceptronic Multifunction eSATA
€20,96
Extra lighting
€20,00
TOTAAL
€1211,64


Pffew, I came a long way to get to this point. But its fun, and i enjoy it.

 

[mfenn]

Pffew, I came a long way to get to this point. But its fun, and i enjoy it.

:thumbsup: Those builds are much better than the one you started the thread with.