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My first build

brammeke11

Member
First of all, excuse me for any grammer faults or misspelled words.
Im from Belgium and my English is fine, not great.

I'm almost 15 years old and me and my parents are buying a new desktop this year.
I'm trying to convince them that I better can build a pc then buying one.
So I started researching for CPUs, VGAs, coolers, cases, etc.
I already knew how it all works but I just had to update my knowledge.
So here is my build:

Case: Corsair Obsidian Series 800D
Why? Because it's massive, I want a lot of room for upgrades. And it has a great cable management system.

PSU: Corsair HX1000W
Probably more than I need but in that case, i will last a pretty long while.

RAM: Corsair Dominator 6GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module
in combination with:

RAM cooling: CMXAF2 GTL - Corsair Airflow 2 GTL cooling fan assembly

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-920 Processor
Because i have the H50 I gonna try to overclock this a bit. Thats why i picked the cheapest.

CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H50
One of the cheapest liquid cooling systems i found and it has a lot of good reviews.

Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTS 250 HDMI
I want at least 1Gb of memory.

Replacement VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03 GT
Why? Because it works and it looks awesome and it fits in my case.

VGA Cooler Fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm
Why? Because my other fans are from Enermax to. And I wanted something black and grey.

ODD: Samsung Blu-ray Combo SH-B083L

Fan Controller: Scythe Kaze Master Pro 5.25"
Why? It can controll 6 fans and measures 6 Temps and it fits my color scheme.

Extra Fans: Enermax Apollish Fan 120mm Blue
Were do you gonna put these? Wel in my case there's room for 3 120mm fans at the top 😀

HDD: Samsung HD503HI 500Gb
This HDD is just for programfiles and Windows itself cause all docs, pics, etc. will be stored on an external 2Tb HDD.

Card Reader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Reader Writer
Good ones are so rare these days 🙁

As you can see, there's no motherboard.
I'm open for suggestions cause i cant figure this one out.


What do you guys think of it? 🙂😕
 
Welcome to the Forums.

It's true you can build a PC that will be better than one in the store. Whether it's a good value or not remains to be seen.

I guess the main question is...what will you be using your PC for? I notice you have a very expensive power supply (1000w) for a system that could run on half that.

I'm thinking you could change the video card to a 5770 which will run cool by itself.

I think you should opt for the Samsung Spinpont F3 drive instead of the EcoGreen you posted. They're cheap enough, and offer great performance.

But yeah... it'll help if you tell us what you and your family will be using the computer for. Then we can offer some better advice on your build.
 
Welcome to the Forums.

It's true you can build a PC that will be better than one in the store. Whether it's a good value or not remains to be seen.

I guess the main question is...what will you be using your PC for? I notice you have a very expensive power supply (1000w) for a system that could run on half that.

I'm thinking you could change the video card to a 5770 which will run cool by itself.

I think you should opt for the Samsung Spinpont F3 drive instead of the EcoGreen you posted. They're cheap enough, and offer great performance.

But yeah... it'll help if you tell us what you and your family will be using the computer for. Then we can offer some better advice on your build.

Wel yes the 1000W is a bit overkill. 750W will do fine probably.
I heard from the Computerguys next door that WD has better HDDs

But my family doesn't use the pc much, but i do... a lot.
I want to play GTA IV, CODM2, etc. at a discent quality.
And also, I want to edit video's with it, good quality ones.

And even if the HR-03 is not nescecery, it stays in just for the looks.
 
OK, I can see quite a few major issues with this build that frankly need to be corrected (or at least addressed) before we even begin to talk mobo. I'm not convinced that you're even on the right platform for a gaming rig.

First, since this is a gaming PC, the GPU should be top priority. A GTS 250 is quite wimpy for a gaming system that costs 1000's of euro. With the budget that you seem to have, you should be looking at a Radeon 5850 at the minimum.

Second, like RaistlinZ said, a 1000W PSU is ridiculous overkill. You're going to be operating at around 100W most of the time. Needless to say, 10% utilization is terrible for efficiency. Something like a 650TX would be more than enough power while costing 1/3 to 1/2 as much.

Third, that RAM is way out there. With the abundance of memory dividers available on modern motherboards, spending a ton of money on fancy RAM and RAM cooling is a waste. Something like Corsair XMS3 or G.Skill would work just as well.

Fourth, while Samsung makes great HDDs, an EcoGreen is NOT what you want as a system drive.

Fifth, the money you're spending on a GPU cooler would be much better spent on just getting a better GPU.

Sixth, the Core i7 930 should be about the same price as the 920.

OK, so to sum up, it seems like you have quite a bit of a budget (nothing wrong with that) but you're spending it in all the wrong places. For a gaming rig, you should spend money in these areas (in this order):

  1. GPU
  2. Well matched CPU, meaning something that won't bottleneck your GPU
  3. Sufficient PSU to power the above
  4. Sufficient RAM (4GB is fine, 6GB on 1366)
  5. Sufficient cooling (in many cases stock is perfectly fine, esp for the GPU)
  6. Storage
  7. Fancy bits that don't make the system faster in any way, shape, or form
 
Your English is better than most Americans age 15 😛

I agree with what other are saying:
GPU is priority with a gaming pc think HD5850

CPU You should be able to get anythings Inel with an i7 9xx or any PhenomII with x4 or x6 with a 3.0ghz or faster clock

Ramm XMS3 works great for me at 8-8-8-24 1600Mhz providing dcent room for overclocking for $100

PSU power with the improvements in effeciency component power consumption has sort of hit a glass ceiling and rarely will you need something greater than a 650W unit.

Aftermarket cooling when done correctly can yield cooler temps, quieter operating noise levels and greater OC, especially with GPU and CPU coolers. I have had great luck from Arctic Cooling's products for my GPU and CPU. Quiet, reasonably priced, and keep the gear cool.

Good luck with water cooling, and you will probably want to get a fast 7200-10,000 rpm or smaller SSD drive for the system and a huge 2TB (WD green) drive for storage.

Best of luck.
 
PSU power with the improvements in effeciency component power consumption has sort of hit a glass ceiling and rarely will you need something greater than a 650W unit.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Very astute! I think many people got used to the historic increases in power consumption and fail to realize that we are at a sort of thermal plateau (and have been for the past few years).
 
If you ever decide to go with daul GPU's be it ATI or Nvidia, you'll want a 650w or > PSU

These guys know what they are talking about when they are suggesting a lower watt PSU. The idle draw vs gaming can be a difference of 150 to 300w. My i7 920 rig idled at 135-150w depending on fan speeds and when I would game UT3 DM the machine would peak around 285w Now that's with 1 5870, no overclocking.

I have 3 Enermax Revolution 950s; and the only reason why I have 3 is because I didn't know the range of wattage I needed. Granted 1 Revo suits my Rig 3 in sig, the rest of the machines would be more efficient with a Seasonic X650w. The performance of this PSU sets the standard for a large percentage of contenders in the market. The thing is just phenomenal! That's why I decided to buy one 🙂
 
OK, I can see quite a few major issues with this build that frankly need to be corrected (or at least addressed) before we even begin to talk mobo. I'm not convinced that you're even on the right platform for a gaming rig.

First, since this is a gaming PC, the GPU should be top priority. A GTS 250 is quite wimpy for a gaming system that costs 1000's of euro. With the budget that you seem to have, you should be looking at a Radeon 5850 at the minimum.

Second, like RaistlinZ said, a 1000W PSU is ridiculous overkill. You're going to be operating at around 100W most of the time. Needless to say, 10% utilization is terrible for efficiency. Something like a 650TX would be more than enough power while costing 1/3 to 1/2 as much.

Third, that RAM is way out there. With the abundance of memory dividers available on modern motherboards, spending a ton of money on fancy RAM and RAM cooling is a waste. Something like Corsair XMS3 or G.Skill would work just as well.

Fourth, while Samsung makes great HDDs, an EcoGreen is NOT what you want as a system drive.

Fifth, the money you're spending on a GPU cooler would be much better spent on just getting a better GPU.

Sixth, the Core i7 930 should be about the same price as the 920.

OK, so to sum up, it seems like you have quite a bit of a budget (nothing wrong with that) but you're spending it in all the wrong places. For a gaming rig, you should spend money in these areas (in this order):

  1. GPU
  2. Well matched CPU, meaning something that won't bottleneck your GPU
  3. Sufficient PSU to power the above
  4. Sufficient RAM (4GB is fine, 6GB on 1366)
  5. Sufficient cooling (in many cases stock is perfectly fine, esp for the GPU)
  6. Storage
  7. Fancy bits that don't make the system faster in any way, shape, or form

PSU: I realy want a modular one, i hate all those cables. Especially with that window in the side.
The GPU is bit bit expensive no. Doesnt the HD5850 has a worthy little brother?
 
second attempt:
Chassis: Corsair Obsidian 800D
PSU: Corsair HX650W Modular Power Supply
CPU: Intel i7-920
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 graphics
VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03
VGA Cooler: Thermalright VRM-R4
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 8cm
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module 6Gb
RAM Cooling: Corsair CMXAF2
ODD: Samsung Blu-ray Combo SH-B083L
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller
Extra cooling: Enermax Apollish Fan Blue (x3)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black
Moederbord: Asus P6T
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer

I need the extra VGA cooling because i have dual monitors and my current one peaks at 75C
 
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Dual monitors shouldn't make a difference for needing VGA cooling unless you are overclocking and even then you need to be pushing it.

As far as little brother to the 5850, the 5770 is probably the best bang for buck below it or a used 4890.
 
PSU: I realy want a modular one, i hate all those cables. Especially with that window in the side.
The GPU is bit bit expensive no. Doesnt the HD5850 has a worthy little brother?

If you want to game, the GPU is the most important part. Hell, you could probably get rid of all of that unnecessary extra cooling you have and get a reasonable case and a 5970 for the same total cost. Wouldn't necessarily recommend a 5970, but you are spending a lot of money on crap that doesn't impact the performance.

second attempt:
Chassis: Corsair Obsidian 800D
PSU: Corsair HX650W Modular Power Supply
CPU: Intel i7-920
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 graphics
VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03
VGA Cooler: Thermalright VRM-R4
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 8cm
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module 6Gb
RAM Cooling: Corsair CMXAF2
ODD: Samsung Blu-ray Combo SH-B083L
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller
Extra cooling: Enermax Apollish Fan Blue (x3)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black
Moederbord: Asus P6T
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer

I need the extra VGA cooling because i have dual monitors and my current one peaks at 75C

I agree with what Alkemyst said about the cooling. Also note that while 75C seems hot to us humans, it is really no big deal for a GPU. If my GPU peaked at 75C, I would not be worried one bit.

Anyway, this new build is much better than the old one!

There are a few areas that you still need to address:

  • The Corsair Dominator is waaay overkill. Get the plain-old XMS3
  • Still don't agree on the GPU cooler. The 5850 is a very cool and quiet GPU in stock form.
  • RAM cooling is completely unnecessary
  • The ASUS P6T is a good choice. Which one in particular were you thinking about?
  • What capacity HDD were you looking at?
 
If you want to game, the GPU is the most important part. Hell, you could probably get rid of all of that unnecessary extra cooling you have and get a reasonable case and a 5970 for the same total cost. Wouldn't necessarily recommend a 5970, but you are spending a lot of money on crap that doesn't impact the performance.



I agree with what Alkemyst said about the cooling. Also note that while 75C seems hot to us humans, it is really no big deal for a GPU. If my GPU peaked at 75C, I would not be worried one bit.

Anyway, this new build is much better than the old one!

There are a few areas that you still need to address:

  • The Corsair Dominator is waaay overkill. Get the plain-old XMS3
  • Still don't agree on the GPU cooler. The 5850 is a very cool and quiet GPU in stock form.
  • RAM cooling is completely unnecessary
  • The ASUS P6T is a good choice. Which one in particular were you thinking about?
  • What capacity HDD were you looking at?

GVA:
Strange, cause i mesured the temp with SpeedFan and it gives me the flame icon

Dominator:
But it is made to work perfect with the i7

Asus P6T:
http://be.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=QtpKQuERkuYw6trc&templete=2

HDD:
500Gb will do it, all foto's and stuff are placed on an external drive
and maybe later, ill buy a SSD when theyre a bit cheaper.

GVA cooler:
It stays because it looks awesome, it will be the crownjewel of my computer.
 
GVA:
Strange, cause i mesured the temp with SpeedFan and it gives me the flame icon
Well, icons are nice, but as long as the temps are safe it's not a huge deal, lower temps do increase lifespan though.

Dominator:
But it is made to work perfect with the i7
I assure you all DDR3 made to proper spec will work with the i7, or any other DDR3 chip for that matter.


HDD:
500Gb will do it, all foto's and stuff are placed on an external drive
and maybe later, ill buy a SSD when theyre a bit cheaper.
How is said external drive connected? You'll get better performance from an internal Sata drive than from USB.

GVA cooler:
It stays because it looks awesome, it will be the crownjewel of my computer.
That's fine, but it isn't needed and adds cost.

Also, you're spending a lot of money on a case/fans that aren't necessary.
 
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I use SpeedFan also, and the flame icon appears if the temperature reading is above the set "warning" value. By default this value is low (50C?), and not related to the hardware itself. You can change the "warning" value to something more appropriate for your hardware under "Configure"-> "Temperatures" and select the item (GPU) you wish to monitor.
 
GVA:
Well, icons are nice, but as long as the temps are safe it's not a huge deal, lower temps do increase lifespan though.

I assure you all DDR3 made to proper spec will work with the i7, or any other DDR3 chip for that matter.


How is said external drive connected? You'll get better performance from an internal Sata drive than from USB.

That's fine, but it isn't needed and adds cost.

Also, you're spending a lot of money on a case/fans that aren't necessary.

:thumbsup: x100 to this post!

I would like to reiterate that as long as the temps are within spec, they don't matter. You (the OP) seem to be overcompensating quite a bit. Sure a part that is running at 40C might last for 20 years whereas a part running at 60C might last for 10, but do you really keep a GPU for 10 years?
 
I use SpeedFan also, and the flame icon appears if the temperature reading is above the set "warning" value. By default this value is low (50C?), and not related to the hardware itself. You can change the "warning" value to something more appropriate for your hardware under "Configure"-> "Temperatures" and select the item (GPU) you wish to monitor.

Ty
 
GVA:
Well, icons are nice, but as long as the temps are safe it's not a huge deal, lower temps do increase lifespan though.

I assure you all DDR3 made to proper spec will work with the i7, or any other DDR3 chip for that matter.


How is said external drive connected? You'll get better performance from an internal Sata drive than from USB.

That's fine, but it isn't needed and adds cost.

Also, you're spending a lot of money on a case/fans that aren't necessary.

K, so ill take less expensive RAM and get rid of the RAM Cooler
So I'll use that money for a greater internal HDD.

And yes, the external HDD is connected by USB.

Those Fans are also a bit for the looks 😉
But more fans equals less rmp and less noise. Atleast thats my theory.
 
K, so ill take less expensive RAM and get rid of the RAM Cooler
So I'll use that money for a greater internal HDD.

And yes, the external HDD is connected by USB.

Those Fans are also a bit for the looks 😉
But more fans equals less rmp and less noise. Atleast thats my theory.

Larger fans equal less rpm and noise. More small fans means more noise.
 
Fewer, Larger fans equal less rpm and noise. More small fans means more noise.

Slight fix.

4 30dBA fans is 4 30dBA fans, no matter what the size. Yes there are tonal differences between 60, 80, 92, and 120mm, but SPL is SPL.
 
Also, here's some questions that'd be awesome if you could answer. More detail is better.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

6. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

7. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

And just a thought, but for gaming, a P55 platform may be better, as it has some pretty crazy turbo speeds (3.6).
 
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Also, here's some questions that'd be awesome if you could answer. More detail is better.

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.

4. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.

6. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.

7. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.

8. WHEN do you plan to build it?

And just a thought, but for gaming, a P55 platform may be better, as it has some pretty crazy turbo speeds (3.6).

1. Gaming and video editing. Decent quality and aimed a bit to the future.
2. Reasonable budget, my parents pay for it. €1.600 max. probably.
3. Belgium, but i might order some from outside the country.
4. Corsair-Fan
5. Nope, my old computer stays complete. Maybe used for some low-end tasks.
6. A bit of overclocking would be nice, yes.
7. My current is 1600x900, but i have 2 of those screens. (Dual Monitors FTW)
8. Before the year 2011 starts. (seriously) But I prefer by the end of this summer.
 
After some changes and making it bit more reliable and cheaper:

Chassis: Corsair Obsidian 800D €254,90
PSU: Corsair HX650W Modular Power Supply €103,99
CPU: Intel i5-750 €188,00
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler €68,25
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 graphics €280,29
VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03 €36,94
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm €4,99
RAM: Corsair XMS3 8GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module €223,78
ODD: Samsung SH-S222A €19,23
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller €30,00
Extra cooling: Enermax Apollish Fan Blue (x3) (€13,99 p/s) €41,97
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB €83,00
Moederbord: Asus P7P55D €111,00
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer €40,36
TOTAAL €1487,00

All these prices are from www.tweakers.net
 
After some changes and making it bit more reliable and cheaper:

Chassis: Corsair Obsidian 800D €254,90
PSU: Corsair HX650W Modular Power Supply €103,99
CPU: Intel i5-750 €188,00
CPU Cooling: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler €68,25
Grafische Kaart: Asus ATI Radeon™ HD 5850 graphics €280,29
VGA Cooler: Thermalright HR-03 €36,94
VGA Cooler fan: Enermax T.B. Silence 9cm €4,99
RAM: Corsair XMS3 8GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module €223,78
ODD: Samsung SH-S222A €19,23
Fan controller: Kaze Master Pro 5.25" Bay Fan Controller €30,00
Extra cooling: Enermax Apollish Fan Blue (x3) (€13,99 p/s) €41,97
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB €83,00
Moederbord: Asus P7P55D €111,00
Cardreader: AFT PR0-55U Ultra Hi-speed USB 2.0 Writer €40,36
TOTAAL €1487,00

All these prices are from www.tweakers.net

First off im not an expert like most of these guys but i can point out some things that stick out to me. I was pretty much in your shoes when i got my pc, first build, parents paying, so i sort of know where your coming from. Everything looks damn cool and worth while. but i can also speak from a stand point of most is just added cost that doesnt offer much.

Case - that is a nice case but seems like a bit much for what your really using it for. Doesnt sound like you need hot swapable drive bays or really even that much room for what you have. You could look at something like the Antec 900 and probably be just fine. I know thats the case i have and it houses everything i could want just fine. 4 HDDs (with room for like 2 more if i so wanted) and 2 dvd drives. Also comes with three fans that have blue LED's for you. Could save some money to be used for a custom watercooling loop (read later) or to buy a SSD or something.

Card Reader- i find them generally just not worth it. You can either plug your camera in via usb cord or a lot of not lowest end model printers seem to have card readers built in. I find the $50 for a card reader can be spent in other areas quite easily and offer better bang for the buck. Its to just to easy to use printer or usb cords.

VGA Cooling- you are fine with out it. I run dual monitors and have for awhile. (a 1400x900 19"ish and a 1900x1080 22") Stock cooling. On different cards as well (latest being 8600gt) Honestly if i watch the temps during normal use (ie web surfing) with one hooked up vs two hooked up the temps are the same. Gaming wise it might be 1-3 degrees higher if dual monitors are used. One thing to remember is most video cards are good till ~100C (someone can confirm exact number) so a peak temp of 75C is nothing to worry about at all. Just another 40 bucks that could be spent elsewhere.

Fans/CPU cooling - Sort of combining these but will separate too

Cooling - you've got a basic watercooling kit that really isnt anything special. It performs about as well as a good heatsink/fan combo for about the same price. heatsinks are just simpliar and easier for a first time build. one less thing to have to worry about. The h50 also isnt really upgradable so if you wanted to later add the vga to it youd be SoL. yeah you have to buy fans for the heatsink (probably) but for what you've described id go with that option personally. if you're really wanting ot water cool then i'd look at a custom loop or a loop that could include the vga since you have been worried about that.

Fans- your case already comes with 3 140mm fans. You most likely wont need anymore than that. 2 intake and 1 exhaust (plus the vga sucking through). if you're getting them just for the LED's why not look at a cathod or a lighting option that doesnt add sound? Could save a couple bucks too.

Fan Controller - Nice but you could save the money and apply it towards something else.

If you changed what i'd suggested that would free up ~100 bucks. Could use that money to Upgrade the cpu or whatever you want. Or you could even just use the stock intel cooler at first and add a custom water loop in the future with the ~150 you'd have left over (minuses cost of the h50 for now) and you could add vga to the loop at that point if you needed.

Anyways just some suggestions. I personally thought a lot of things owuld be cool and neat in my first built but the novelty wore off after a week or so and i realized the money wasnt really worth it.
 
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First off im not an expert like most of these guys but i can point out some things that stick out to me. I was pretty much in your shoes when i got my pc, first build, parents paying, so i sort of know where your coming from. Everything looks damn cool and worth while. but i can also speak from a stand point of most is just added cost that doesnt offer much.

Case - that is a nice case but seems like a bit much for what your really using it for. Doesnt sound like you need hot swapable drive bays or really even that much room for what you have. You could look at something like the Antec 900 and probably be just fine. I know thats the case i have and it houses everything i could want just fine. 4 HDDs (with room for like 2 more if i so wanted) and 2 dvd drives. Also comes with three fans that have blue LED's for you. Could save some money to be used for a custom watercooling loop (read later) or to buy a SSD or something.

Card Reader- i find them generally just not worth it. You can either plug your camera in via usb cord or a lot of not lowest end model printers seem to have card readers built in. I find the $50 for a card reader can be spent in other areas quite easily and offer better bang for the buck. Its to just to easy to use printer or usb cords.

VGA Cooling- you are fine with out it. I run dual monitors and have for awhile. (a 1400x900 19"ish and a 1900x1080 22") Stock cooling. On different cards as well (latest being 8600gt) Honestly if i watch the temps during normal use (ie web surfing) with one hooked up vs two hooked up the temps are the same. Gaming wise it might be 1-3 degrees higher if dual monitors are used. One thing to remember is most video cards are good till ~100C (someone can confirm exact number) so a peak temp of 75C is nothing to worry about at all. Just another 40 bucks that could be spent elsewhere.

Fans/CPU cooling - Sort of combining these but will separate too

Cooling - you've got a basic watercooling kit that really isnt anything special. It performs about as well as a good heatsink/fan combo for about the same price. heatsinks are just simpliar and easier for a first time build. one less thing to have to worry about. The h50 also isnt really upgradable so if you wanted to later add the vga to it youd be SoL. yeah you have to buy fans for the heatsink (probably) but for what you've described id go with that option personally. if you're really wanting ot water cool then i'd look at a custom loop or a loop that could include the vga since you have been worried about that.

Fans- your case already comes with 3 140mm fans. You most likely wont need anymore than that. 2 intake and 1 exhaust (plus the vga sucking through). if you're getting them just for the LED's why not look at a cathod or a lighting option that doesnt add sound? Could save a couple bucks too.

Fan Controller - Nice but you could save the money and apply it towards something else.

If you changed what i'd suggested that would free up ~100 bucks. Could use that money to Upgrade the cpu or whatever you want. Or you could even just use the stock intel cooler at first and add a custom water loop in the future with the ~150 you'd have left over (minuses cost of the h50 for now) and you could add vga to the loop at that point if you needed.

Anyways just some suggestions. I personally thought a lot of things owuld be cool and neat in my first built but the novelty wore off after a week or so and i realized the money wasnt really worth it.

About those 3 fans, your probably right about those. And I will (in the future) be installing heavier and more powerfull CPU's in combination with bigger watercoolers. So I'll be better of with LEDs so i dont waste money on fans that will be trown away and dont add much performance. Ty.

EDIT
Will i be able to hook the LEDs up to my fan controller?
 
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