My fellow fanboys, I introduce to you....Gingerbread!

[rudeguy]

http://androidcommunity.com/android...ws&utm_medium=Twitter&utm_source=SNSanalytics

Android Gingerbread, the most tasty version of Android to come out yet. It’s still in development, but the details are peeking through the cracks. Let’s take a taste! First of all, there’s a very possible graphical overhaul. Google’s hired ex-Palm user interface expert Matias Duarte, pointing directly at a lovely new look that’ll blow everyone else out of the water (not that this is going to be the hardest thing to do in the world, you aesthetic sinners, you.) Standard icons have a new simpler look, appearing now to have all come from the same illustrator rather than a gaggle. And then there’s green, so much green!

 

[zerocool84]

There's a reason why Apple took a Palm guy and Google took a Palm guy, cus WebOS still is the best Mobile OS out there. I'm not getting a new Android phone until next year until Gingerbread comes out.

 

[rudeguy]

There's a reason why Apple took a Palm guy and Google took a Palm guy, cus WebOS still is the best Mobile OS out there. I'm not getting a new Android phone until next year until Gingerbread comes out.

I'm pretty upset that I never got to experience WebOS. I had a Treo 650...was that WebOS?

 

[zerocool84]

I'm pretty upset that I never got to experience WebOS. I had a Treo 650...was that WebOS?

No only the Pre and Pixi have WebOS.

 

[rudeguy]

No only the Pre and Pixi have WebOS.

ok good. I hated that Treo with all my heart.

I'm just excited to see the OS get polished up. I know its possible...look at all the custom ROMs and themes out there. It wouldn't take much to really get it shining.

I wonder if Gingerbread will mainly be visual improvements and tablet support or if there will be any special goodies? 2.2 brought the enhanced voice search and flash. Maybe 3.0 will get us...?????

 

[zerocool84]

ok good. I hated that Treo with all my heart.

I'm just excited to see the OS get polished up. I know its possible...look at all the custom ROMs and themes out there. It wouldn't take much to really get it shining.

I wonder if Gingerbread will mainly be visual improvements and tablet support or if there will be any special goodies? 2.2 brought the enhanced voice search and flash. Maybe 3.0 will get us...?????

I think even just a visual overhaul with gpu offload support will please a lot of people.

It’s not all about the visuals, though, because Google’s working to add even more functionality at the core of Android. Perhaps the biggest addition (that we can confirm so far) has been support for video chat using the same protocols that powers video chat on the desktop version of Google Talk. We’ve heard this rumor before, but our source is confident that this will be up and running by the time Gingerbread hits the net. Building upon that, we’ve also learned that Google’s adding SIP support in their Google Voice application to allow you to receive calls to your Google Voice number over WiFi and cellular data. For those who use Android devices without a voice plan, this means you can still use your phone as a phone as long as you’re near a WiFi connection. Nothing groundbreaking considering there are many VoIP options in the market currently, but it’s notable that Google’s adding this support natively. We’ve heard that the actual updated Voice application might not be ready for Gingerbread’s release, but the underlying framework has already been checked in. Unfortunately, it sounds like this’ll be a Gingerbread-exclusive feature so you Google Voice fans on Froyo and earlier (everyone, as of now) shouldn’t get too excited just yet.

http://phandroid.com/2010/10/18/exclusive-first-android-gingerbread-details/

 

[Slick5150]

There's a reason why Apple took a Palm guy and Google took a Palm guy, cus WebOS still is the best Mobile OS out there. I'm not getting a new Android phone until next year until Gingerbread comes out.

This.

I have a Pre and an HTC Hero running Froyo, and WebOS >>>>>>> Android.

Android has a lot going for it, but it still leaves a LOT to be desired as far as ease of use is concerned.

 

[MrX8503]

Supposedly Gingerbread is more focused on OS polish rather than features. As far as the photo....how can you see anything in that blurry photo?

 

[ew915]

That is not even an article, the author is just talking a bunch of wild guesses, and is not addressing the issues the OS have.

The android OS has a bunch of BS going on, the community is great but the OS seems to me is like going nowhere, bunch of dead ends when you want your phone to do some taks, you have to spend time and look for fixes or apps.

Things android lacks;
No restart function
Apps look ugly as hell
For the minimality of the OS the phone runs choppy as hell compared to the iphone
Slow updates
Carriers don't support their phones

All the freedom? what freedom? you got to root and spend time searching for a good rom, then you hope not to brick your phone in the process.

You need to go dig into the menu settings for hings as simple as turning off the Bluetooth, GPS... Yeah 2.2 fixes the issue but you still have an ugly task bar on your desktop wasting space.

Did i mention manufacturers and carriers don't support their phones? like Motorola or Samsung?

I think BB is still the best, it is not pretty but runs great and does what is supposed to.

 

[MrX8503]

I'm pretty sick of android BS, the community is great but the OS seems to me is like going nowhere, bunch of dead ends and you have to spend time and look for fixes or apps.
I think BB is still the best.

Most people would say the opposite. I also believe RIM is ditching their own OS and creating a new one with their Playbook tablet.

 

[Bateluer]

That is not even an article, the author is just talking a bunch of wild guesses, and is not addressing the issues the OS have.

The android OS has a bunch of BS going on, the community is great but the OS seems to me is like going nowhere, bunch of dead ends when you want your phone to do some taks, you have to spend time and look for fixes or apps.

Things android lacks;
No restart functionAndroid has this
Apps look ugly as hellpure opinion
For the minimality of the OS the phone runs choppy as hell compared to the iphoneTrue, Android runs on so many hardware configs that no manufacturer or carrier really optimizes it. But, with increasingly powerful hardware available, its only an issue if you purchase the cheapest of the cheap smartphones.
Slow updatescarrier/manufacturer problem, not the OS.
Carriers don't support their phonesAgain, carrier/manufacturer. Will agree though, if you want to sell a product, it needs support.

All the freedom? what freedom? you got to root and spend time searching for a good rom, then you hope not to brick your phone in the process.

You need to go dig into the menu settings for hings as simple as turning off the Bluetooth, GPS... Yeah 2.2 fixes the issue but you still have an ugly task bar on your desktop wasting space. 2.0 brought the power control widget, offering 1 touch control for Bluetooth, among other things. May have existed in 1.5 or 1.6, but I never owned those devices personally.

Did i mention manufacturers and carriers don't support their phones? like Motorola or Samsung?Moto has been supporting their devices pretty well. The Droid 1 has gotten 4 OTA updates, thats pretty solid. Samsung . . . not so much. Carriers should lean on manufacturers when they don't cough up their updates, and manufacturers should lean on carriers when they drag their feet.

I think BB is still the best, it is not pretty but runs great and does what is supposed to.

Man, you must be using a different device than me. Lot of flat out wrong information in there, as well purely subjective too.

 

[ew915]

Stop defending android like it was perfect.

The ugly power bar takes space off your screens, touchwiz has implemented it in the status bar which is ok, but stock android is still with the ugly bar in the middle of the desktop.

The reboot option is just not there on 2.2. At least it wasn't there on my nexus one, you had to hard press the power button to access it, i had to d/l custom roms for that.
I don't think moto is doing that great with their motofail line.
The only thing i will use it is for web browsing capabilities, other than that, i see no reason for using android unless you are a google fan.

Man, you must be using a different device than me. Lot of flat out wrong information in there, as well purely subjective too.

 

[MrX8503]

If you think Android is ugly, then BB is Quasimodo.

 

[zerocool84]

Stop defending android like it was perfect.

The ugly power bar takes space off your screens, touchwiz has implemented it in the status bar which is ok, but stock android is still with the ugly bar in the middle of the desktop.

The reboot option is just not there on 2.2. At least it wasn't there on my nexus one, you had to hard press the power button to access it, i had to d/l custom roms for that.
I don't think moto is doing that great with their motofail line.
The only thing i will use it is for web browsing capabilities, other than that, i see no reason for using android unless you are a google fan.

Ugly bar? It's called a notification bar. Notification bars are infinitely better than what's on any other phone. There's a reason why Apple hired the WebOS notification guy becausethey know you need to keep them from being intrusive. It keeps notifications in it's own area where they should be and don't interrupt what you're doing. Sure it's not "pretty" but it does EXACTLY what it's supposed to do and I'd rather take the "ugly" Android notifications as you call it than have big pop-ups or no notifications at all.

 

[Cuda1447]

Stop defending android like it was perfect.

The ugly power bar takes space off your screens, touchwiz has implemented it in the status bar which is ok, but stock android is still with the ugly bar in the middle of the desktop.

The reboot option is just not there on 2.2. At least it wasn't there on my nexus one, you had to hard press the power button to access it, i had to d/l custom roms for that.
I don't think moto is doing that great with their motofail line.
The only thing i will use it is for web browsing capabilities, other than that, i see no reason for using android unless you are a google fan.

You seem to be obtuse to me. Let me get this straight, the power bar takes up space on your screens. And what other OS do you have a desktop like Android? iOS? Can you have a quick power bar there? Nope. How about Blackberry? Don't think so. Windows? Not really.

You have 7 screens to work with, you can't handle putting a power bar taking up 1/4th of 1 screen? Or in other words, 1/28th of the space available to quickly change GPS/WIFI/Brightness/Airplane/2g/3g all at one time? Come on man.

As for phone rebooting... Uh... really? Long press power button, power off. Press power button, power on. Is that really that fucking difficult? Wow.

As for Motofail... then don't buy a motorola. Buy an HTC, Samsung, LG, Dell or something else.


As for having to root the phone to do anything then running the risk of bricking it... well you're only going to brick it if you're an idiot. Rooting is EXTREMELY safe and easy now.

 

[ew915]

Ugly bar? It's called a notification bar. Notification bars are infinitely better than what's on any other phone. There's a reason why Apple hired the WebOS notification guy becausethey know you need to keep them from being intrusive. It keeps notifications in it's own area where they should be and don't interrupt what you're doing. Sure it's not "pretty" but it does EXACTLY what it's supposed to do and I'd rather take the "ugly" Android notifications as you call it than have big pop-ups or no notifications at all.

I'm refering to the power control bar in which samsung touchwiz has implemented it inside the status bar, and the "notification bar" is called status bar.
Can you read? the power bar wasting space in the main screen
I'm not new to android i've used 1.5 to 2.2 from the G1 to N1 and tried pretty much all the good roms so i still find it frustrating sometimes

 

[Cuda1447]

I'm refering to the power control bar in which samsung touchwiz has implemented it inside the status bar, and the "notification bar" is called status bar.
Can you read? the power bar wasting space in the main screen

Ok, now I'm confused. You don't like the notification bar? You don't like that the notification bar has controls for GPS/WIFI etc? Or you don't like the power control bar in the middle of the screen? If its the Power Control in the middle of the screen.... simple fix. Move it. Put it on the left screen at the top. Put it on your far right screen at the bottom. Hell, even download a better looking one. It's not our fault you can't design your homescreen in a less clunky manner.


You're like that guy that spreads icons randomly around his windows desktop with a preloaded wallpaper and then claims windows looks like shit. There are plenty of means to make it look nice, just because you are ignoring those means doesn't mean they don't exist.

 

[zerocool84]

I'm refering to the power control bar in which samsung touchwiz has implemented it inside the status bar, and the "notification bar" is called status bar.
Can you read? the power bar wasting space in the main screen

Ok then you obviously don't know Android then. That's NOT stock Android. When someone loads up Android for the first time, that's not there unless you are the one who puts that on your homescreen. If you don't like that there why do you have it there?

 

[Demo24]

I'm refering to the power control bar in which samsung touchwiz has implemented it inside the status bar, and the "notification bar" is called status bar.
Can you read? the power bar wasting space in the main screen
I'm not new to android i've used 1.5 to 2.2 from the G1 to N1 and tried pretty much all the good roms so i still find it frustrating sometimes

Um, you realize you can move that right? You can have your screens be completely clear if you'd like, or move the icons to whichever screen you please. Only thing that's always there is the bottom menu buttons and the notification bar.

That's also SenseUI which is not stock android. However the power bar is a google widget anyway.

 

[Spoooon]

Why would anyone need a soft restart key? I'm at 320 hours of uptime, no problems.

Excited about Gingerbread!

 

[ew915]

Ok then you obviously don't know Android then. That's NOT stock Android. When someone loads up Android for the first time, that's not there unless you are the one who puts that on your homescreen. If you don't like that there why do you have it there?

Well that is not my phone BTW, i'm just trying to bring my point, even you put it into another screen, you still find that the themes in the OS is still incomplete, like i had to download an app called "Quick Settings" to have the power functions inside the status bar, then another app to turn on and off auto rotate screen. Then another app to switch the wifi tethering...
My main complain is that you have to dig down deep and search apps to control main features of your phones. That is lame, i am tired of that.

The notification bar is nice only thing i like about android, but i don't know i feel the OS is not polished also the status/notification bar gets cluttered really quick, scrolling through the app drawer is choppy, zooming or moving around website is also choppy. I wish android could be as smooth as iOS but is not the case.

Why would anyone need a soft restart key? I'm at 320 hours of uptime, no problems.

Excited about Gingerbread!

May be to load roms?

 

[MrX8503]

You complain about the power management bar when you can't even do this on iOS.

 

[vshah]

first you say you hate having to dig through the menus to get to phone settings. then you complain that you hate having them as 1 click access. what is the magic number of clicks it should take to change a bluetooth setting? Must be 2 or 3, because it takes 4 if you "dig through the settings" and 1 if you use the toggle widget.


as for the OP, all the stuff he mentioned there would be nice, but that could easily be a themed CM install. all conjecture at this point.

 

[tatteredpotato]

I have an idea, lets just let ew hate android and talk about..... wait what's this thread about again??

I know it's hard to not correct those who are as blatantly wrong as he is (yes he has ventured beyond the realm of opinion), but maybe if we just ignore him he'll get tired and stop.

 

[MikeMike]

I think even just a visual overhaul with gpu offload support will please a lot of people.



http://phandroid.com/2010/10/18/exclusive-first-android-gingerbread-details/

I have an issue with the bold, flat out negated one another...

It’s not all about the visuals, though, because Google’s working to add even more functionality at the core of Android. Perhaps the biggest addition (that we can confirm so far) has been support for video chat using the same protocols that powers video chat on the desktop version of Google Talk. We’ve heard this rumor before, but our source is confident that this will be up and running by the time Gingerbread hits the net. Building upon that, we’ve also learned that Google’s adding SIP support in their Google Voice application to allow you to receive calls to your Google Voice number over WiFi and cellular data. For those who use Android devices without a voice plan, this means you can still use your phone as a phone as long as you’re near a WiFi connection. Nothing groundbreaking considering there are many VoIP options in the market currently, but it’s notable that Google’s adding this support natively. We’ve heard that the actual updated Voice application might not be ready for Gingerbread’s release, but the underlying framework has already been checked in. Unfortunately, it sounds like this’ll be a Gingerbread-exclusive feature so you Google Voice fans on Froyo and earlier (everyone, as of now) shouldn’t get too excited just yet.

Does it not mean, at any point, without a voice subscription, you would be able to make the call via data?