its not over. my brother graduated with a 2.x GPA from biochemistry at UCLA. of course, no graduate schools wanted him. but he took a great GRE and managed into santa clara university, which is by no means as good as UCLA, but still very decent for graduate studies and it costs substantially more.
bah.. i have a 3.89 finishing up my junior year and have yet to land a internship. so don;t assume just cause people have good grades they get everything handed to them. I have send out 10+ resumes with no luck and some of them were unpaid.
Originally posted by: Kwan1
bah.. i have a 3.89 finishing up my junior year and have yet to land a internship. so don;t assume just cause people have good grades they get everything handed to them. I have send out 10+ resumes with no luck and some of them were unpaid.
I'm finishing up junior-level work with above a 4.0 GPA (4.33 for an A+) in physics and applied math and I still haven't snagged any internships I've wanted to (I also attend an Ivy-caliber top 15 university).
So, yeah. Even a high GPA won't get you everything you want.
Of course, I'm Canadian, so I'm eligible for few internships in the States on that alone, but still...
As I said, they just get you in the door. There are other means.
I currently have a 3.33 GPA in undergrad (counting about 10 cc credits), and I can assure you that without that 3.5+ it's much more difficult. I am staying a fourth year to do a double-degree (if I get into accounting) or a double-major otherwise (probably just Classical Studies, ), that should give me time to raise my GPA to a 3.45, if I'm lucky.
It is insanely difficult to get either a job or into law school with less than a 3.5. If my GPA was just .2 points higher, I'd have a significantly better chance of getting into some top twenty schools. Just work your ass off, establish a rising grade trend, do some research, and get damn good recommendations from profs. It'll get you somewhere, at least.
), that should give me time to raise my GPA to a 3.45, if I'm lucky. It is insanely difficult to get either a job or into law school with less than a 3.5. If my GPA was just .2 points higher, I'd have a significantly better chance of getting into some top twenty schools. Just work your ass off, establish a rising grade trend, do some research, and get damn good recommendations from profs. It'll get you somewhere, at least.
Ummm...what a great excuse. Maybe you didn't study because you were lazy. I was stupid/lazy in the beginning, but at least I realized that it was my fault, not because people told me that GPA doesn't matter.
Digtal: That's good for you and keep up the good work.
Rabid: Maybe he is telling the truth.
For those people with low gpa's and work hard in school keep it up. When I started computer engineering back in 00' I knew I would have a rough time (I was never a good problem solver). I'm almost finished and my gpa is not great but this was something I wanted to do.
I've talked to some people that work at big compaines, some say GPA matters and some don't. ATOT tends to just put down people immediately about this subject. They should walk a mile in the others person shoe before saying remarks like "Get drunk 4 nights a week?"
Maybe he is, but then I would have to say that he is very gullible, lacks common sense, or is just plain dumb.
I would guess that the 'Gentleman's C' is just giving anyone an A, even if they didn't do well...I guess some people use this to explain the large amount of people that graduate with good GPAs at a school such as Harvard. I have no idea if that exists or not, but I would say that most people at Harvard are among the elite of the US and would naturally have good grades.
Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
Ameesh?
Is Ameesh a girl?
Try again.
Oh, alkemyst then.
RichieZ
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What school do you go to? I go to a top 10 school where the avg gpa is like 3.2. I wasn't valedictorian in HS but I gradudated top 10% out of 300 students. College started out rough, first qtr was like 3.05. I've worked back up to a 3.44 as a CompSci and Econ double major.
GPA doesn't mean jack, mine isn't high but I can get almost any engineering interview because of work experience. I have a friend with a 3.76 and he can't get any interviews. I think you really get out of college what you put into it, that is unless you go to an ivy league where 80% of the students graduate w/ honors.
GPA doesn't mean jack, mine isn't high but I can get almost any engineering interview because of work experience. I have a friend with a 3.76 and he can't get any interviews. I think you really get out of college what you put into it, that is unless you go to an ivy league where 80% of the students graduate w/ honors.
I didn't read the rest of the thread but I'd just like to say in the real world GPA means jack. honestly...it can help you get internships and your first job..but after that noone really cares what your GPA was.
But yes, the first job is the hard one...but only the large corporations really have a min. gpa requirement. Try working at a small company that perhaps pays less..and work yourself up from there. Believe me, it's not the end of the world!
It also helps if you have hookups...then GPA _really_ doesn't matter. I know a guy working here with a below 2.0 GPA...Northrop Grumman alllll about hookups!
But yes, the first job is the hard one...but only the large corporations really have a min. gpa requirement. Try working at a small company that perhaps pays less..and work yourself up from there. Believe me, it's not the end of the world!
It also helps if you have hookups...then GPA _really_ doesn't matter. I know a guy working here with a below 2.0 GPA...Northrop Grumman
alllll about hookups!Having a low GPA does make things tougher, especially when trying to get a job/internship from a company that does consider it or getting into graduate school. But it isn't impossible.
I graduated from UCLA with a BS in applied math almost 2 years ago, finishing w/a GPA of 2.3. And this is after being placed on academic probation twice while as a computer science major. Admittedly, a lot of it was my own doing (going out w/friends or playing video games instead of studying or doing my assignments), and I take full responsibility for it.
When I graduated, I tried finding a job, but it was extremely difficult. I didn't get anything until the following April (2003). And it wasn't anything related to what I wanted to do. I finally got a small job doing some web app programming in June of last year.
Currently, I am looking for work again after leaving in January from another job doing web programming. So the search will be hard, but it is difficult for everybody involved as employers are looking if you are confident, positive and able to do the jobs they are offering.
I graduated from UCLA with a BS in applied math almost 2 years ago, finishing w/a GPA of 2.3. And this is after being placed on academic probation twice while as a computer science major. Admittedly, a lot of it was my own doing (going out w/friends or playing video games instead of studying or doing my assignments), and I take full responsibility for it.
When I graduated, I tried finding a job, but it was extremely difficult. I didn't get anything until the following April (2003). And it wasn't anything related to what I wanted to do. I finally got a small job doing some web app programming in June of last year.
Currently, I am looking for work again after leaving in January from another job doing web programming. So the search will be hard, but it is difficult for everybody involved as employers are looking if you are confident, positive and able to do the jobs they are offering.
My main man! Me and you think alike, give me five jive turkey. I have heard many people gripe about their bad grades, and most of the time it's "The teachers were bitchez" or "I almost had it, but then the final screwed me over" or something like that. I take full responsibility for my low grades, and blame it on the internet.
beatle
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I was out with a 2.6 overall (3.1 in major). It took me a year to find a steady job. I had 2 semesters of work experience in my field as well, but the economy just took a dump. I eventually got a job back with the company that I co-opped with, which I learned was key. Many of the people I work with don't even have degrees. :Q
i didnt read this thread, but just wanted to say
<---had a horrid gpa in undergrad, well below 3.0
did other work to show i really wanted it and got into UCLA and got my masters
<---had a horrid gpa in undergrad, well below 3.0
did other work to show i really wanted it and got into UCLA and got my masters
As painful as it was, and how it may still affect me in terms of my career, I truly believe that experience was good for me. I think it forced me to reevaluate what was important to me and how I needed to go about doing it. I decided to get my degree as quickly as I could and in something remotely related to computers (the math major I eventually graduated with).
Looking back, I feel really bad about it since it took two extra years, and my parents paid for my education, and out-of-state tuition at that. Once I get a stable, higher-paid position, I'll pay some of the money back.
Babbles
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If you want to get into a grad school/professional school than anything less than a 3.0 makes things tough. However after you get your degree you can take one class a semester (or whatever) and try to slowly bring your GPA up. Not to mention good scores on the LSAT, GRE, etc will help to offset a low GPA.
However, if you are happy with a BS or BA then work experience is the next best thing. After a year out of college working in your field, nobody cares about your GPA.
Just like when you started college, nobody cares what you did in high school; when you are 'real life' nobody cares what you did in college.
However, if you are happy with a BS or BA then work experience is the next best thing. After a year out of college working in your field, nobody cares about your GPA.
Just like when you started college, nobody cares what you did in high school; when you are 'real life' nobody cares what you did in college.
I have a 3.1 in a pretty competitive liberal arts college and I just landed a job in Denmark as an IT intern. And I'm a bio/history major too
My school screws us science majors over though, all classes count as exactly one credit, it could be a dance class or a science with a lab, they count the same (4credit hours if you do the conversion). And the labs are really pretty much a course themselves because they are 4hours long (usually takes up the whole time or longer), and there are weekly lab reports and lab quizzes. So right now I'm taking 5 courses, two of which have labs for a total of pretty much 28credit hours. No wonder I don't have any free time.
My school screws us science majors over though, all classes count as exactly one credit, it could be a dance class or a science with a lab, they count the same (4credit hours if you do the conversion). And the labs are really pretty much a course themselves because they are 4hours long (usually takes up the whole time or longer), and there are weekly lab reports and lab quizzes. So right now I'm taking 5 courses, two of which have labs for a total of pretty much 28credit hours. No wonder I don't have any free time.
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