My father is crazy

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notfred

Lifer
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My dad has this wierd thing with Jews. I can't tell if he loves them or hates them. Half the time he's talking about how immoral thier laws and customs are, and the other half the time, he's talking about how smart and well organized they are.

And yes, he does spend nearly all his time talking about jews. The rest is spent talking about the UN, new world order, trilateral commission, etc...

I think my father is losing his mind.
 

911paramedic

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I just have to say that it is a shame, and I hope you can decide personal values on your own.

I have many Jewish friends, Aribic friends, Black friends, Asian friends, etc. (not to mention all the different religions) I love them all and wish them a long and prosperous life. I am a straight white dude, and I hope they all feel the same about me.
 
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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Oy veh! (I'm sure THAT wasn't spelled right..)

Weird

Well it's good to see your own attitudes haven't been clouded by his beliefs. At least not in a bad way!
It's "oy vey." :)
 

Vespasian, are you the only kid of your parents? It sounds like it.

Well, the fact that your father married a Jew and still is married to one and has a Jewish kid tells me that even if he uttered those words, action speaks louder than words. A man who said those things and married out of his race or religion or abandoned his wife and family would be a totally different case.

Edited for typos.
 

Tominator

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Last night my father told me three things:

1) All Jews are liars and thieves.
2) Religious Jews (whom he likes to refer to as c*cksuckers) are the absolute scum of the earth.
and 3) Hitler's attempt to exterminate the Jews was commendable.

In case you don't know (which I'm sure you don't) my father grew up in a Jewish family, was bar mitzvahed at the age of 13, and still attends synagogue/temple a few times a year.

He has always been angry at Jews in general (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering that he is Jewish). And his hatred for Israel is extreme. He'll openly tell you that Israel has no right to exist whatsoever. But his outburt last night was little extreme even for him.
Every one of us has said things we later came to regret. Life is not easy and sometimes every one of us puts the blame for whatever in a different place than it belongs.

I hope YOU never say anything in anger or are taken out of context.

In fact, having read some of your posts, I find this hard to believe.......

:(
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: luvly
Vespasian, are you the only kid of your parents? It sounds like it.
Yes, I'm an only child.

See that's the problem, my dad had five boys to hate and beat up on, never had time to worry about conspiracy theories:p
 

Brutuskend

Lifer
Apr 2, 2001
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Was HIS father quite devout?

Often times it seems that every generation is bass akwards from the previous one in their beliefs, goals and attitudes.
 

Ameesh

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: Vespasian
Last night my father told me three things:

1) All Jews are liars and thieves.
2) Religious Jews (whom he likes to refer to as c*cksuckers) are the absolute scum of the earth.
and 3) Hitler's attempt to exterminate the Jews was commendable.

In case you don't know (which I'm sure you don't) my father grew up in a Jewish family, was bar mitzvahed at the age of 13, and still attends synagogue/temple a few times a year.

He has always been angry at Jews in general (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering that he is Jewish). And his hatred for Israel is extreme. He'll openly tell you that Israel has no right to exist whatsoever. But his outburt last night was little extreme even for him.

WEIRD!!!

Sounds like he has a bit of a identity problem.
My mother always blames it on stress. But there has to be a lot more behind it.



i cant understand why your mother would ever marry a crazzy ass whack job like your dad in the first place.
 
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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Was HIS father quite devout?

Often times it seems that every generation is bass akwards from the previous one in their beliefs, goals and attitudes.
I don't think so. Sometimes I think his anger has something do with the fact that his family was so poor when he was growing up.
 

Brutuskend

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And let me guess. He is QUITE successful and a workaholic?

If so, he sounds like MY father, and he is that way because he grew up so poor.

Me, I went the other way. (poor) But decided early on that life was too short to kill yourself trying to make a lot of money while missing out on life itself.
 

T2T III

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Last night my father told me three things:

1) All Jews are liars and thieves.
2) Religious Jews (whom he likes to refer to as c*cksuckers) are the absolute scum of the earth.
and 3) Hitler's attempt to exterminate the Jews was commendable.

In case you don't know (which I'm sure you don't) my father grew up in a Jewish family, was bar mitzvahed at the age of 13, and still attends synagogue/temple a few times a year.

He has always been angry at Jews in general (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering that he is Jewish). And his hatred for Israel is extreme. He'll openly tell you that Israel has no right to exist whatsoever. But his outburt last night was little extreme even for him.

Yikes! It sounds like your father has been listening to Louis Farrakhan a bit too much. :(
 
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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
And let me guess. He is QUITE successful and a workaholic?

If so, he sounds like MY father, and he is that way because he grew up so poor.

Me, I went the other way. (poor) But decided early on that life was too short to kill yourself trying to make a lot of money while missing out on life itself.
He works extremely long hours, usually 12 or 13-hour days. And by my definition he's successful, but by his definition he's not.
 

Brutuskend

Lifer
Apr 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
And let me guess. He is QUITE successful and a workaholic?

If so, he sounds like MY father, and he is that way because he grew up so poor.

Me, I went the other way. (poor) But decided early on that life was too short to kill yourself trying to make a lot of money while missing out on life itself.
He works extremely long hours, usually 12 or 13-hour days. And by my definition he's sucessful, but by his definition he's not.

Yup, that sounds about right....
 

wfbberzerker

Lifer
Apr 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Originally posted by: TNTrulez
Maybe he got abused as a kid by Jewish people.
No, he wasn't abused by anyone. His parents were always very protective of him.

overprotection can sometimes lead to extreme rebellion.

as for what he said, i dont think its udder stupidity. i just think that something must have struck him deep a long time ago, and he has slowly become more and more resentful of what he is (or was).
 

911paramedic

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I worked 13 hours per day, and it was tough. You had to go to sleep at 10:00 and get up at 4:00 (it was a 6AM to 6PM shift, and always overtime.) It was a tough day and stressful at the least. It was very hard on my marriage, even though she called me her "hero". LOL, hero, hardly.

I cant believe nobody has referred to my post above because it has so much to do with this, but whatever. I tried to speak about my father with a semi-same situation in the past. It actually made me out to be a better person.

David
 

BD231

Lifer
Feb 26, 2001
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I knew a jewish kid who hated jews in highschool, he told me he hated religious jews in general for mostly biblical reasons. His exact words "they were whinny stuck up bitches then, and their whinny stuck up bitches now":confused:, don't really know what that means. He hated his parents though so I think some of that anger was going into the whole "i hate jews" thing. I couldn't blame him though, his parents were ANAL. He wanted nothing to do with the jewish religion and they forced it on him. Your dad is not the only jewish hating jew for sure though. If anything I'd ask him why he hates jews, could just be things that are going down in Israel that ticks him off.
 

Cougar

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I've got an uncle who hates Jews too. No matter what issue comes up if you press him enough he'll blame the jews. The problems in the middle east? The Jews fault. The current US economy? The Jews fault. You name the subject and eventually he'll blame the Jews. Kinda sad if you think about it. A grown man not having an ounce of common sense.
 

Blieb

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Originally posted by: Vespasian
Last night my father told me three things:

1) All Jews are liars and thieves.
2) Religious Jews (whom he likes to refer to as c*cksuckers) are the absolute scum of the earth.
and 3) Hitler's attempt to exterminate the Jews was commendable.

In case you don't know (which I'm sure you don't) my father grew up in a Jewish family, was bar mitzvahed at the age of 13, and still attends synagogue/temple a few times a year.

He has always been angry at Jews in general (which doesn't make a whole lot of sense considering that he is Jewish). And his hatred for Israel is extreme. He'll openly tell you that Israel has no right to exist whatsoever. But his outburt last night was little extreme even for him.

Your dad is going to hell for drinking Manechevitz on a Thursday night, Elijah told me so.

(I'm Jewish, so yes, I can say that :))
 

MinorityReport

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Did you ever ask him why > >>> whats the hate for ?? Try having a serious father -son kinda thing over this .. maybe you can help him out .. maybe he wants to share it ..
there has to be a good reason.

However you mentioned his partner at work is a muslim. With all due respect to mohemmedans, I know by 15 years of personal experience what brain washing sessions you will go through them ..

After I mastered Arabic, every one tried to get me converted into a moslem .. including the mullah at the city mosque who was my client at some time. And those who understand arabic and are non moslems will know what intense propaganda islam has ...even the red brigade wll look like boy scouts in comparison.


I am just giving you a reason .. maybe its brain washing from your dad's co -worker .. maybe that gentleman has put a negative picture of jews in your father'.s mind and your dad wants to get rid of that and the only way he has is to disassociate himself with jews and his religion.

IMHO that is one possibility you might look into.

BEst of luck ...




 

DanTMWTMP

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well, he probably hates them for these reasons:

i was talking to some dude earlier in the week...and here were some points that were brought up:

- we'd still have the two towers if it weren't for us giving the jews israel back....
- they own the media.....'nuff said..
- since they own the media, they have complete power over public relations and politicians in USA..that's y USA still supports israel, despite the fact that israel oppresses
palestanians and USA doesn't do anything about it....cuz media is the ultimate propaganda to make or break any politician...
- U can say that USA helping the jews back into Israel was an act of imperialism...an invasion indirectly by the USA....

- and we wonder why the fvck terrorists hates us......

well, i have nothing against jews....just some thoughts on what coulda been and what not ya knw? ...and don't quote me on what i said either...they're not 100% from me...just some thoughts...not proven either....they could and can be wrong ya knw...depends on point of view mostly......differientiating point of views is the mother of all instigations and wars....sad that in our embryotic state...we all look alike...have like 99.999% same genes (not accurate figure..aha)..we have no power on who we will be nor what ethnicity we will be......it's just a shame that we fight each other cuz of different perceptions and misunderstandings :(