My experience with Intel vs. AMD

[novon]

Bottom line, I have had a Thudnerbird and a Pentium III and The Pentium III is way more stable and all my cards, controllers, and software actually work. But I don't blame AMD, I blame VIA for their piece of sheit chipsets. However, I do think AMD should be more responsible with actually having a stable chipset before they release a CPU, therefore, I will pay more for Intel from now on until I am convinced that AMD has their act together.

 

[smp]

How come your AMD box isn't in your rig profile?

 

[novon]

cause I sold it to buy an intel

 

[Dually]

AMD has and if you buy a mothboard with their chipset and update the bios, you will be fine. Id you complain about them releasing premature products don't because then you guys complain about how long it takes them to realse them, accept bugs at first and wiat for the new bioses.

 

[novon]

Yeah, I can't speak for mobos with AMD chipsets, cause I haven't tried them, but I figure they are fine. However, most mobos out there for thunderbird are VIA, I had both the Asus A7V (What a POS, I was suprised Asus put their name on it) and the MSI K7 Turbo (much more stable, but still not as fast, especially on HD performance as my CSUL2-C).

Go figure...

 

[MasterHoss]

Understandable...good point.

Yeah, I use the A7V133 and don't have any problems with it. But I know of all the problems and bugs with VIA. I stuck with AMD and dumped my Intel box because AMD was cheap, very overclockable and wanted to see the differences between the 2. Personally, I like both of them. I just buy now based off of performance/cost.

 

[formulav8]

I suppose some people have problems. I've built a very many computers around AMD chips and Via chipsets and have been just as stable as any Intel I have owned or used.




Jason

 

[Wingznut]

I've owned both AMD and Intel. And my current Intel setup (P4-1955mhz) is much much faster than my AMD. It's not even close. Granted, my last AMD was a K63-400mhz, but you'd think that AMD could keep up. I'm sticking with Intel, too. At least until AMD gets their sh*t together or I no longer work for Intel, whichever comes last.


(NOTE: The author of this post is not responsible for any "sarcastic-challenged" people with a stick up their @ss, who can't take a joke.)

 

[Stripe]

I've put together about 6 machines with Durons & T-birds. I'm not employed in the computer hardware field, just like to mess with them and have a fast machine. Every one came up just fine (except for a video card in one that wasn't seating properly). I just read the forums, buy good components, install windows 98, install latest 4in1, then install video drivers and rest of the drivers. They are all running stable. One is raid 0, my latest is DDR with amd 761 northbridge. The only stability issues have been caused by newbies downloading and installing "browser enhancments".

 

[Desmoquattro]

<< I just buy now based off of performance/cost. >>



LOL...so that means AMD right? Well...i'm one of those people that has second thoughts about going off to AMD...that damn performance price ratio is so damn tempting (a 1.33ghz T-bird is cheaper than a p3 1ghz slot...what is up with that?) but VIA and their 4-in-1 drivers or whatever just scares the crap out of me. One thing i do know is that i suppose my next system will definitely be AMD...which seems the most logical if I were to get it now.

 

[novon]

Both my Intel and my AMD were 1GHz. I don't really download useless software, overclock, etc. I just noticed that my UltraATA controller did not work at full speed on the AMD machine, and IE and dreamweaver crashed more often, and Combat Flight Simulator 2 did not run either, this is all under windows 2K. After the switch to Intel, everything is fine so far.

 

[Viperoni]

Funny how I have my own game rig that's rock solid for me in win2k.
The only lockups I get are from overheating...hey it's summer + im ocing to begin with.
And I have a SCSI setup, and have HAD a ide raid setup.
Never gave me much trouble at all.

 

[JCobra14]

I must admit the VIA chipsets can be a pain, (im typing this on a KT133 system), but with some patience and research, ive had no trouble.... being a Win98SE fan, i wouldnt know about Win2k issues, but i think there are some patches ya may need.. too late of course since you sold the system... o well

 

[dowxp]

im running via myself, for once. its given me some weird errors. but nothing to complain about. a kt133[a] chipset though, i wouldnt touch it with a 1 dollar bill.


1.4 athlon + 815ep chipset!? = heaven.

 

[ST4RCUTTER]

Things may change here in the next few months. If Nvidia can make a stable chipset, the options will be that much better for an AMD system. AMD's chipsets are rock solid too, so when the Austin fab focuses on that, we should see more avialability from them.

 

[duragezic]

<< Granted, my last AMD was a K63-400mhz, but you'd think that AMD could keep up. >>



LOL hahaha.

I don't know what's with all the VIA chipset problems recently. It's like that is now the popular thing to talk about (just recently was sb live! bashing, before that it was prob p4 bashing, ...). Oh well. I do agree Intel does make better chipsets but it's not like the VIA chipsets don't work. Their real old ones were pretty bad though.

 

[HamHam]

I have helped all of my poor friends with Amd &amp; Win Me sytems. Delete Win me and load Win 98 SE, they think I am a god cause the system runs fast and stable. ( Unless they do something really stupid).

I think that Amd made be a bit harder to work with but the performance edge makes up for it.


Hamham

 

[JCobra14]

<< a kt133[a] chipset though, i wouldnt touch it with a 1 dollar bill. >>



There something horribly wrong with the KT133(a) chipset i dont know about?

I'm running a cheap-o ECS Mobo even, quite stable, all sorts of peripherals installed with only a little work....


EDIT: Added the cheap mobo part )

 

[dowxp]

<< There something horribly wrong with the KT133(a) chipset i dont know about?

I'm running a cheap-o ECS Mobo even, quite stable, all sorts of peripherals installed with only a little work....


EDIT: Added the cheap mobo part ) >>





well, perhaps now its fine wiht the new 4-1's. but it had the sblive and ide transfer problem. many friend computers have i acessed the problem and said &quot;sucks to be you&quot;. =)

but the chipset is mature now. should have any major problems now.

 

[JCobra14]

<<
well, perhaps now its fine wiht the new 4-1's. but it had the sblive and ide transfer problem. many friend computers have i acessed the problem and said &quot;sucks to be you&quot;. =) >>



ive heard bad things about the sblive, VIA or not...

 

[heffe734]

i had via problems on my old asus a7v 133...I.E. kept freezing here and there cuz of my SB LIVE...but now i have an epox...and i get no bugs or glitches or anything. P's cost too much...most ppl want to match dollar for performence...and dollar for dollar...AMD wins. Try the new mobo's and bios for AmD now...i don't think u'll have anything to complain about....except updating those pesky 4 in 1's like every damn week. (sarcasm)

 

[Thor_Sevan]

Ok. Here is what I have to say.
My current AMD system is the most stable system I have ever seen with win2k.
Now that I have my crucial ram and win2k, my system is ROCK stable. If only you knew what kind of things I did last day with photoshop.... a crazy file (110 MB) that takes 2 minutes only to LOAD... there is so much transparency that my CPU is almost at 100 % usage all the time and the HD working like a crazy dog. I used my computer for 5 hours with NO (zero) problem.

 

[Thor_Sevan]

Again, thanks to win2k, to crucial and AMD. Oh yeah, and I like multitasking a lot. hehe
And I have an ASUS K7M.

So... I don't know really for intel stability but u can't say AMD systems aren't stable.
Thor

 

[subxeon]

heh, my Dell R400 is extremly stable..

P2 400 mhz
256 megs of pc100 ram ..
intel mobo


It has NEVER locked up in Win2k

NOT once!

but it sucks for speed, i want a 1.4 ghz or somethign hehe.

My roomate got a 1ghz athlon with A7v mobo i believe, and his would lock up .. at least 10 times a day, GARENTEED..

amazing

i am going to be building new comp with amd proc this summer though... i'm hoping i discover a mobo that is extremely stable/DDR

heh

 

[jamison]

I have had 2 Intel machines, and 2 AMD Machines. I prefer AMD, but then again I am not the definitive answer on the issue and do not claim to be. I respect your opinion like I am sure most people do, but these posts are way too frequent and there is no need for another AMD vs. Intel post.

Just to make a comment, I have had absolutely no stability issues with AMD. On WinME and Win98 I had the same amount of BSOD's on the Intel and on the AMD, equally. However with Win2k and AMD, I have not had one freeze in over 2 months (since I installed it).