My Education plan for the nation.

Dameon

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Expanding on an earlier point.... I honestly think the education system in this country is seriously screwed.

1) I believe in vouchers. It takes years to fix a school that is doing poorly. Guess what? My kid is stuck in there being victimized daily by the crappy school, even when they FINALLY admit there is a problem. I want the authority and financial backing to pull my kid OUT. I don't have time for them to "try" to get their act together, my kid is in there only for a handful of years. There is no time for second chances at a quality education, especially at the early years.

2) Practical skills are not being tought. Children are not being tought how to compare interest rates. Economics should teach home buying basics, stock market basics, how to calculate a P/E ratio, comparing Credit card interest rates, figure out how much it's costing you to keep it on credit, how much that 0 payments / 0 interest for 6 months will really cost you if you EXCEED the 6 month limit and get hit with the interest whack. For economics courses, they need to prepare people for real-deal economics.

3) Mindless regurgetation IS being overtaught. Far too often, our eductional system resorts to expanding short term memory instead of how to THINK FOR YOURSELF. School can't teach everything, and we need to work on challenging children & especially young adults to tie concepts together, apply concepts to other areas, delve into them... and above all... think for themselves.

4) Our children need to know what guns are and how to handle them properly. I heavily support firearm safety education in schools. If we can teach 'em about the birds and the bees, we can teach them about not blowing their kid sister's arm off playing with a gun.
Just like with drugs, if we do not teach children, their friends and the streets will.

Here's what a 1995 federal study investigating juvenile crime found after looking at 20,000 randomly selected households:

Relationship between type of gun owned and percent committing street, drug and gun crimes.

Illegal gun:
Street crimes = 74%
Drug use = 41%
Gun crimes = 21%

No gun:
Street crimes = 24%
Drug use = 15%
Gun crimes = 1%

Legal Gun:
Street crimes = 14%
Drug use = 13%
Gun crimes = 0%


"The socialization into gun ownership is also vastly different for legal and illegal gunowners. Those who own legal guns have fathers who own guns for sport and hunting. On the other hand, those who own illegal guns have friends who own illegal guns and are far more likely to be gang members. For legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street.'"
"Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns."

Source: U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454, "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," August 1995.


5) Most of all, we need to set our expectations higher. Our children can be the best and brightest in the world because they are. We cannot afford to constantly cater to the lowest common demoninator.

 

Tominator

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Lets start by teaching voters how to punch holes in a ballot! Until they get the hang of this I see little hope in your proposals...although I agree with you.

Saw an interview with some of the Florida Voters who think they voted for the wrong person. One claimed an IQ of 165 and could not figure out what hole to punch! I hope I never get that 'intelligent!'

Great post, btw.

Instead of filtering Education Dollars through the Federal Government the Dollars should never leave the state to begin with. Washington, and certainly the Clinton/Gore Democrats, use the Dollars for Social Engineering. For instance DC uses the number of kids in the School Lunch Program to fund school activities that have zero to do with feeding the kids. The School receives 'bonuses' for recruiting kids to the program. To the point of suggesting you or I lie about our incomes to get the extra funding. This has happened to my Family in 2 different school districts. Every person I've ever talked to about this subject with kids in school has related the same story I've related to you.
 

Dameon

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Egads. Of anything I'd hoped we get out of this election was education reform, and now even that looks like to much to ask. Of anything that we do that will echo for eternity is how we teach.

Lord help us. We have raised a generation of children who have no concept of responsibility. :(
 

minus1969

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I'm currently in High School, and although I think that school vouchers are a good idea, if not implemented properly they will cause a gap in time in which school systems really suck. I wish that I'd had the chance to go to a speciallized school where I could focus on one or two subjects and drop classes that are required for my graduation but have no application to me personally. Yes; I do feel like I've slipped through a crappy system, and given the chance, I'd choose to go to private school instead...but abandoning public schools right away will only cause more chaos...this is why the voucher system has to be worked out more before it's put into place.....
 

jmcoreymv

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The voucher system is a good thought however its unconstitutional simply because kids can be put into religious private school. The government is not suppost to contribute funds to religious causes. Plus it depends where u live, I live in a middle class area and the schools here are pretty good.
 

JellyBaby

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Dameon,

That's precisely why charter schools were started and have taken off beginning with the first experiments in Minnesota 10 years ago. Charter schools differ from public schools in that they have a different teaching philosophy, smaller class sizes but pretty much the same accountability under the law.

I have heard of several success stories where both kids and teachers felt more rewarded by the school (kids learn more, teachers once more feel empowered). Good stuff.