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iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: unsped
believe it or not, dogs lack alot of human concepts like object permanance... the idea that your dog would anguish because your not there while its being put to sleep is incorrect, and is machismo aimed at making yourself feel better.

You have no idea what you're talking about. If this was true, then as soon as i leave the house the dog shouldn't remember me... since she whines and cry, she obviously does. If they lack object permanence, then when she buries her treats in the yard, how does she know where to zero in?

I agree as well.. Dogs are highly intelligent and have a great amount of passion toward the owners. When I come home every day in the afternoon, my chihuahua prances on her hind legs, and begins to jump up at me, panting frantically, with what appears to be a big smile coming from her little teeth..

but I guess as you have informed us, dogs do not possess the thought of human concepts..
Only a true dog/pet owner/lover will understand and know this..

To the OP.. do whatever is possible. I'd say opt for the surgery... at that point further analysis can be based.. if it indeed turns into the worse, then I believe it would be the right time to let your beloved friend go to the "other side".

The person who said that dogs don't remember IS the OP...
 
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Man this stuff is hard. I had to do this with my Dad and his dog last year, on Friday the 13th, I'll never forget that. It was only the second time I've ever seen my Dad cry, not to mention probably the second time I ever hugged him.

Sheila, his dog, was actually a retired Marine Corps explosives detection dog, with some drug detection training. They retired her because of her medical condition, but my Dad cared for her and prolonged her life very comfortably for a few more years.

She ended up getting a combination of things that are no big deal seperately, but together really hurt her, and greatly reduced her quality of life.

that is the key to your choice. How will your dogs quality of life be?

I'd almost say if you can afford it go for the surgery. If your dog is still suffering after the fact then you know what to do.
 

jlbenedict

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: unsped
believe it or not, dogs lack alot of human concepts like object permanance... the idea that your dog would anguish because your not there while its being put to sleep is incorrect, and is machismo aimed at making yourself feel better.

You have no idea what you're talking about. If this was true, then as soon as i leave the house the dog shouldn't remember me... since she whines and cry, she obviously does. If they lack object permanence, then when she buries her treats in the yard, how does she know where to zero in?

I agree as well.. Dogs are highly intelligent and have a great amount of passion toward the owners. When I come home every day in the afternoon, my chihuahua prances on her hind legs, and begins to jump up at me, panting frantically, with what appears to be a big smile coming from her little teeth..

but I guess as you have informed us, dogs do not possess the thought of human concepts..
Only a true dog/pet owner/lover will understand and know this..

To the OP.. do whatever is possible. I'd say opt for the surgery... at that point further analysis can be based.. if it indeed turns into the worse, then I believe it would be the right time to let your beloved friend go to the "other side".

The person who said that dogs don't remember IS the OP...


Doh :eek:
 

LookingGlass

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I do feel animals are calmed by their owners presence. I had to put my cat to sleep some years ago. She was full of cancer, the humane thing to do was put her down. She was loosing weight, it would of prolonged the angony for all involved to keep her alive. She wouldn't of had a good quality of life due to her cancer.

They did exploritory surgery on her, and called me, and told me what they found in her. They asked what I wanted to do, I'll be right down. She was groggy and still a bit out of it when I saw her. When I first touched her, she was shaking and trembling just awful. I bent down, got real close to her, and whispered gently to her, and started to pet her. She stopped shaking. You can't tell me, my presence didn't not effect her. It did, my presence calmed her. I had her put to sleep, I was there when they did it. The hardest thing I had to go through, I cried. :(


My vet, the same vet that operated on my other cat told me, steroid in dogs, don't do as well as in cats. They don't know why he said. I have a cat on steroids right now. She is doing ok on them.

Surgery can be damn expensive on animals, if you can do it great, if the surgery won't help much, do the right thing for you both, put the dog down. But, try to be there for the dog.
 

unsped

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i agree that if you can be somewhat calm, being there is the absolute best thing. i just dont want to discomfort the animal by being a total wreck.

im going to talk to the surgeons today, but info ive found on the web shows the average lifespan after surgery is 135 days.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer...ubMed&list_uids=10825097&dopt=Abstract

it would be alot of discomfort to put her through for what, 3-4 extra months of life???

i think ive decided to go there if she is euthanized, i may tell my dad not to go though, hes a total wreck about it.
 

unsped

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just talked to the surgeon... he agreed its best to euthanize as there isnt much they can do. he said 'if it was my brother or my dad, i would tell them this needs to be done'
 

LookingGlass

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So sorry about all this unsped. :( Be there for your dog, if you don't, you will regret not being there. It will be hard, no doubt about that. You are doing the right thing, as hard as this maybe. Sounds like the surgery won't do much good, there is no other choice. I know I wouldn't want my pet to suffer anymore than neccessary. I would feel selfish if I did. It sucks, it does. :( Be strong for yourself, be strong for you pet, you can break down later, when you are alone.

Animals add so much to our lives, I would go through it all again, if I had to. We are here for you. :)

[edit] BTW, he is beautiful, yes is he. :)[/edit]
 

LookingGlass

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I know, god speed to your dog. Big hug for you. (((((unsped))))))) :(
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unsped

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it was tough, but sammy left this world with her 3 favourite friends petting her and feeding her tri tip.

rest in peace sammy
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Ronstang

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Originally posted by: unsped
it was tough, but sammy left this world with her 3 favourite friends petting her and feeding her tri tip.

rest in peace sammy
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I'm terribly sorry that you had to put your dog down. I know it is tough as I have been through it twice and had another pet die in my arms. Nothing wrong with displaying emotions either I was crying like a 3 year old in front of the Vet and 2 assisstants.



 

unsped

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i would like to thank the great folks at www.acarc.com for all the great work they have done to help, and let other know that while the idea of being in the room when your pet passes is very scary ... its something you and your pet will appreciate and i recommend if you can handle it.
 

KarenMarie

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i am truly sorry for your loss.

(We soooo need a crying emoticon)

i know how it feels been there myself.

my heart goes out to you and your family.
 

tfinch2

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It's so tough to lose a pet. My old dog was doing really well dispite age (14), and we woke up one morning and he died in his sleep. It's the only time I've seen my dad cry.