My dog was attacked yesterday

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Ns1

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You get a 100lb dog in a headlock and it is basically screwed. If you are some sort of manlet or child you might have a problem though.

Doesn't work? poke its eyes out or grab a leg and yank it as hard as possible, you will most likely break it.

Want another option? Wait until it opens its mouth to bite you and shove your arm as far down it's throat as possible (your choice if you rip out its still beating heart but kudos if you do).

BTW I love dogs and would not consider any of these unless I actually thought it was going to kill me

I got a 45 pound foster dog and when he goes apeshit he will most certainly put holes in you. Yes, you will eventually gain control but your arms (and maybe other body parts) will get fucked up.

hundred pound dog is definitely kick that mother fucker in the face status.
 

SlitheryDee

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You get a 100lb dog in a headlock and it is basically screwed. If you are some sort of manlet or child you might have a problem though.

Doesn't work? poke its eyes out or grab a leg and yank it as hard as possible, you will most likely break it.

Want another option? Wait until it opens its mouth to bite you and shove your arm as far down it's throat as possible (your choice if you rip out its still beating heart but kudos if you do).

BTW I love dogs and would not consider any of these unless I actually thought it was going to kill me

I doubt anyone is going to get a chance to implement any of that in the moment. The dog has much faster reflexes than you. When he goes for a bite you're going to be bitten already before you think to put your hand anywhere. You go for an eye poke, he snaps his head up and suddenly you're missing an index and middle finger. You go for a leg, and he rounds about and sinks his teeth into your forearm before you know what's happening. You go for a headlock and he turns slightly and suddenly your wrist is gouting blood. The more damage you take, the less your strategies for deterring the dog even enter your mind. Furthermore, a 100+ lb dog is probably strong enough to pull your feet out from under you. Then you're at his level and thoroughly screwed.
 

massmedia

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If a dog has your dog in a bite the real danger is the tearing injury when the asshole dog shakes its head. If you grab its hind legs with iron fists of ungodly adrenaline induced defensive fury and lift those legs off the ground... the asshole dog will have a helluva time shaking its head with any force.

if it lets go and still wants to do harm you go into beast mode and protect that which matters to you. If it looked like it wanted yo chomp me id feed it my forearm and while it was busy there id rip out its eyes or crush its nasal cavity or rip out its throat or bite it like s madman. If i die then that's s price id gladly pay to protect my dog from big murderous asshole dog.

footnote: i love animals and make every effort to avoid bringing harm to them... even needless harm to insects if i can avoid it without an unreasonable effort. ...so i don't say these things litely.

Some people care for their dogs as if they are their children and i believe that that is right and good.

...wow this thread has me fired up... just the thought of this happening to my dog had me ready rain down hellfire in defense
 
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alkemyst

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You get a 100lb dog in a headlock and it is basically screwed. If you are some sort of manlet or child you might have a problem though.

Doesn't work? poke its eyes out or grab a leg and yank it as hard as possible, you will most likely break it.

Want another option? Wait until it opens its mouth to bite you and shove your arm as far down it's throat as possible (your choice if you rip out its still beating heart but kudos if you do).

BTW I love dogs and would not consider any of these unless I actually thought it was going to kill me

Good luck, you probably think you can take down any man just with a pair of steel toes and those skills too, right?

Lol, at manlet.
 

BudAshes

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Best tactic is charge the big dog and yell at it that it's a bad dog and tell it to go home. If it looks ragged swear at it, as shitty owners usually yell and swear at their dog when it does something they don't like. The key is to put doubt in it's mind as this will let you override it's aggressive instincts. I taught this to my gf and she hasn't had an issue with any dogs since. We live in a fairly rural area and there are many times when big aggressive dogs are off leash and our dogs, who are utter wusses, have been attacked a few times. Another thing I do is take the leash off your dog so it can get away, and in a pinch you can turn the leash into a lasso to get the aggressive dog under control. Just don't try to grab the dog with your hands or get in between them. Boot the dog if anything, and if there is a hose anywhere nearby that tends to be highly effective.

I have a St. Bernard who is just a love and wouldn't hurt a fly, I'm sorry that one was so poorly behaved.
 

alkemyst

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If a dog has your dog in a bite the real danger is the tearing injury when the asshole dog shakes its head. If you grab its hind legs with iron fists of ungodly adrenaline induced defensive fury and lift those legs off the ground... the asshole dog will have a helluva time shaking its head with any force.

if it lets go and still wants to do harm you go into beast mode and protect that which matters to you. If it looked like it wanted yo chomp me id feed it my forearm and while it was busy there id rip out its eyes or crush its nasal cavity or rip out its throat or bite it like s madman. If i die then that's s price id gladly pay to protect my dog from big murderous asshole dog.

footnote: i love animals and make every effort to avoid bringing harm to them... even needless harm to insects if i can avoid it without an unreasonable effort. ...so i don't say these things litely.

Some people care for their dogs as if they are their children and i believe that that is right and good.

...wow this thread has me fired up... just the thought of this happening to my dog had me ready rain down hellfire in defense

Again, good luck in fighting when a dog is tearing your forearm and crushing the bones in it.

Apparently, you don't feel pain.
 

BudAshes

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Again, good luck in fighting when a dog is tearing your forearm and crushing the bones in it.

Apparently, you don't feel pain.

Yeah, they have stronger jaws than you could imagine. My Saint Bernard had a seizure in the middle of the night. My girlfriend thought she was choking on something and tried to reach into her mouth and dislodge whatever was in there. Unfortunately this led to the dog clamping down on her arm as the seizure progressed. It took all my strength to get our dogs jaws open enough for her to pull her arm out and she had an inch deep puncture wound in her forearm that luckily missed the artery.
 

massmedia

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Thank you, i suppose i'll need the luck. If its eating my left arm its not eating my dog.

i dont know how it will go if this situation ever arises but i can guarantee you that i will go into an adrenaline override beast mode expecting pain and intending to focus everything i have on one body part of the attacking dog.
 

massmedia

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Yeah, they have stronger jaws than you could imagine. My Saint Bernard had a seizure in the middle of the night. My girlfriend thought she was choking on something and tried to reach into her mouth and dislodge whatever was in there. Unfortunately this led to the dog clamping down on her arm as the seizure progressed. It took all my strength to get our dogs jaws open enough for her to pull her arm out and she had an inch deep puncture wound in her forearm that luckily missed the artery.

Wow, do you think thins would be different with adrenaline surging through you and the knowledge that if you failed your dog would die?
 

BudAshes

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Wow, do you think thins would be different with adrenaline surging through you and the knowledge that if you failed your dog would die?

Honestly I went from dead asleep to full addrenaline mode in about half a second. The dog was about 130lbs of mostly muscle and bone at the time, so we were probably lucky I was able to keep her from thrashing around and get her jaws open at all. I jumped on her and sat on her and pried her mouth open from behind. It was 4 am and I was left dazed, fully naked and covered in seizure froth and blood. Not to mention my girlfriend had a big puncture in her arm. Not a fun night.
 

z1ggy

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Here's my gal!

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alkemyst

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Thank you, i suppose i'll need the luck. If its eating my left arm its not eating my dog.

i dont know how it will go if this situation ever arises but i can guarantee you that i will go into an adrenaline override beast mode expecting pain and intending to focus everything i have on one body part of the attacking dog.

This is how the 'average' guy believes he can take out a trained fighter as well.

"Oh, my adrenaline will go and I will first kick him in the nuts, when he bends down then knee him in the face. Finally bring my elbow down on the base of his skull and shatter his spine."
 
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She hear's the neighbor's dog:

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PLAY TIMEEEEE!

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Cute dog!

Seriously though, please do go talk to the owners of the st. bernard. They need to know what their dog did so they can (hopefully) be more aware of securing it in the future. You talking to them could prevent future incidents to you or other neighbors/pets.

You mentioned in your previous post that you are the type to not start anything, which leads me to believe you may be a little intimidated to talk to them, but it's just a friendly talk with the neighbors and it could do a lot of good.
 

Remobz

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Needs to be trained.

No doubt. He is a house dog and is good security for my house when I am not home. He is jealous and protective of me as well. One time my GF was playing aggressively with me and he went into alert mode and was ready to attack.

This dog would literally die for me. Of all the dogs I have owned over 30 years this one seems to be the most loyal and protective and a true "lion heart" to say the least. With that said, he can be a pain in the ass and needs training indeed because he has some stubborn ways.
 

massmedia

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Honestly I went from dead asleep to full addrenaline mode in about half a second. The dog was about 130lbs of mostly muscle and bone at the time, so we were probably lucky I was able to keep her from thrashing around and get her jaws open at all. I jumped on her and sat on her and pried her mouth open from behind. It was 4 am and I was left dazed, fully naked and covered in seizure froth and blood. Not to mention my girlfriend had a big puncture in her arm. Not a fun night.

that's insane :eek:
 

massmedia

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This is how the 'average' guy believes he can take out a trained fighter as well.

"Oh, my adrenaline will go and I will first kick him in the nuts, when he bends down then knee him in the face. Finally bring my elbow down on the base of his skull and shatter his spine."
isn't that how it's done?
 

norseamd

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Look I thought about how to fight dogs many years ago and there is basically only one tactic worth using against big dogs. This is the Rear Naked Choke with a body triangle from the back of the dog. You still have to figure out how to get to the back of the dog while avoiding his bite. Compared to some other animals the paws of a dog are not that much to worry about but their jaws very much still are. You should avoid any fight with a big dog if you can.
 

norseamd

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You can also use psychology to try to win a confrontation but in a pure fight the jaws of big dogs can cause a lot of destruction.
 

z1ggy

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^ So you thought huh? Have you tried it out yet???

There's a reason the military and police use large dogs to subdue people. It's because they are fucking strong as shit and once the bite and latch on, good luck getting them off.
 

norseamd

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^ So you thought huh? Have you tried it out yet??? There's a reason the military and police use large dogs to subdue people. It's because they are fucking strong as shit and once the bite and latch on, good luck getting them off.

Assuming you were not responding to me?
 

Raduque

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I doubt anyone is going to get a chance to implement any of that in the moment. The dog has much faster reflexes than you. When he goes for a bite you're going to be bitten already before you think to put your hand anywhere. You go for an eye poke, he snaps his head up and suddenly you're missing an index and middle finger. You go for a leg, and he rounds about and sinks his teeth into your forearm before you know what's happening. You go for a headlock and he turns slightly and suddenly your wrist is gouting blood. The more damage you take, the less your strategies for deterring the dog even enter your mind. Furthermore, a 100+ lb dog is probably strong enough to pull your feet out from under you. Then you're at his level and thoroughly screwed.

Yeah, I really don't understand why nobody has put any of this information forward before. I guess nobody here has actually TRIED to separate dogs bare-handed before.

I tried once, and was rewarded with 3 holes in my right hand, from my own dog, because all she saw was movement as I tried to grab her collar. It happened faster than I could think. One second I was reaching out for the collar, the next my hand was clutched to my chest streaming blood. Never even felt it.

The dogs were separated by water hose and later, my dog came up to me, nuzzled and licked my hand and rolled over on her back while hiding her head and tail. She was never aggressive towards another person or animal after that.

And as to relative strength, well my current dog is a 35lb lab mix, and she can physically move me around the floor easily and is quite a handful when play wrestling. I weigh 235.
 

z1ggy

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Assuming you were not responding to me?

Nope, I was. Lemme know how that body triangle while attempting to choke works out on a 100lb angry dog that is flailing around.

Have you ever even done any of those things on a human even or do you just watch a lot of UFC?