My dog got attacked at the dog park.... :(

[RKS]

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

Have you actually ever been to a dog park? Its a place where dogs are free to roam off leash, to play and run around with each other. Aggressive behavior is not permitted as noted on a sign when you enter.

Also, FL is a strict liability state when it comes to Dog Bites. I have yet to mention to the woman that I am an attorney, albeit not licensed to practice yet until I take the bar in 2 months...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. I still maintain that you took your dog there and therefore accept the responsibility and the possibility that something like that may occur.

You obviously don't have a dog and have never been to a dog park.

As far as the OP, at our local dog parks it is also posted that agressive dogs are not welcome.
Our lab has been run over and also 'warned' by other dogs because of his incessant humping but he has never been bit. If there are agressive dogs then other owners lead their dogs away and the owner of the agressive dog gets the hint to either control his dog or leave.
I have also noticed that the larger number of dogs usually leads to a pack mentality where a bunch usually gang-up on a more subserviant dog. Even then I have yet to see a dog get bit at the dogpark.

and BTW I'm not sure I would say anything about being an attorney (I know you didn't). One because really aren't until you are sworn in, Two because R.P.C. may frown upon it, Three because it'll just piss-off whomever you are trying to impress/intimidate.

PS: good luck in February

 

[OrganizedChaos]

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/online/exhibitions/dogs/spikedcollar.asp

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Actually it is a great idea. It socializes the dogs which provides the physical benefits of running and playing, as well as the mental benefits of stimulation. It also helps to keep the dogs socialized to other dogs and people, which helps suppress the predator/prey drive (big hunting dog versus small lap dog) and the alpha in some dogs. Naturally, not all dogs are trained equally...don't blame the OP when you obviously know nothing about the subject.

Forgive me but that just doesnt make sense to me why anyone would take their dogs to suppress their natural tendencies. Their natural tendency is to run in a pack and by taking to a park with a buncha other dogs that exactly what your doing. If anything you are ENCOURAGING the alpha male nature of the bigger dogs. Then by introducing a smaller dog its like throwing a wounded deer to the lions. Then people blame the dog that bites the other for their dog not being trained properly when the dog is just protecting himself. I'd much rather have the dog that protects itself and its owner than one that goes gladly up to people. the pussification of america and its dogs grows :roll:

True to an extent, but dog aren't entirely like wolves. Domestic dogs are more like full grown puppies in comparison (adult wolves rarely play). Pack behavior, though it exists, is much less aggressive overall. This is why you can train out the alpha. In that sense YOU are supposed to be alpha. This way, through training, the dog knows better than to do something that would upset its master.

 

[aphex]

and BTW I'm not sure I would say anything about being an attorney (I know you didn't). One because really aren't until you are sworn in, Two because R.P.C. may frown upon it, Three because it'll just piss-off whomever you are trying to impress/intimidate.

Lol, yea, wasn't planning on it... Someone asked me the other day what I did and my answer was a 'Yet to be licensed Attorney'

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

Have you actually ever been to a dog park? Its a place where dogs are free to roam off leash, to play and run around with each other. Aggressive behavior is not permitted as noted on a sign when you enter.

Also, FL is a strict liability state when it comes to Dog Bites. I have yet to mention to the woman that I am an attorney, albeit not licensed to practice yet until I take the bar in 2 months...

The Florida dog bite statute

767.01 Dog owner's liability for damages to persons, domestic animals, or livestock.--Owners of dogs shall be liable for any damage done by their dogs to a person or to any animal included in the definitions of "domestic animal" and "livestock" as provided by section 585.01.

767.04 Dog owner's liability for damages to persons bitten.--The owner of any dog that bites any person while such person is on or in a public place, or lawfully on or in a private place, including the property of the owner of the dog, is liable for damages suffered by persons bitten, regardless of the former viciousness of the dog or the owners' knowledge of such viciousness. However, any negligence on the part of the person bitten that is a proximate cause of the biting incident reduces the liability of the owner of the dog by the percentage that the bitten person's negligence contributed to the biting incident. A person is lawfully upon private property of such owner within the meaning of this act when the person is on such property in the performance of any duty imposed upon him or her by the laws of this state or by the laws or postal regulations of the United States, or when the person is on such property upon invitation, expressed or implied, of the owner. However, the owner is not liable, except as to a person under the age of 6, or unless the damages are proximately caused by a negligent act or omission of the owner, if at the time of any such injury the owner had displayed in a prominent place on his or her premises a sign easily readable including the words "Bad Dog." The remedy provided by this section is in addition to and cumulative with any other remedy provided by statute or common law.

The FL definition of "domestic animal" is as follows:

(10) "Domestic animal" shall include any equine or bovine animal, goat, sheep, swine, domestic cat, dog, poultry, ostrich, emu, rhea, or other domesticated beast or bird. The term "animal," as used in this chapter, shall include wild or game animals whenever necessary to effectively control or eradicate dangerous transmissible diseases or pests which threaten the agricultural interests of the state.

WHATEVER. If you're NOT LICENSED b/c you haven't passed the bar in any of the 50 states, then guess what? YOU'RE A FREAKING LAW STUDENT AND NOT AN ATTORNEY, STUDENT.

 

[aphex]

Whoah there Michael, calm down... What's the problem? My apologies for the mistake, you partially correct. I don't think I am a student anymore, but I am not a licensed attorney yet.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: aphex

and BTW I'm not sure I would say anything about being an attorney (I know you didn't). One because really aren't until you are sworn in, Two because R.P.C. may frown upon it, Three because it'll just piss-off whomever you are trying to impress/intimidate.

Lol, yea, wasn't planning on it... Someone asked me the other day what I did and my answer was a 'Yet to be licensed Attorney'

You're a student, not an attorney.

 

[MichaelD]

I don't get most of you young people. "I'm only 4 credits away from being able to be an intern at an advertising agency! I'm an Advertising Guru!"

No, you're not. You're a student.


"I've finished all my college courses, but haven't taken the bar b/c I'm actually 3 credits in the hole b/c of some stupid prereq...but I'm a lawyer!"

No, you're not. You're a student.

LMK when you have TEST RESULTS in your hand from one of the 50 states. THEN you're a lawyer. Student.

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: aphex

and BTW I'm not sure I would say anything about being an attorney (I know you didn't). One because really aren't until you are sworn in, Two because R.P.C. may frown upon it, Three because it'll just piss-off whomever you are trying to impress/intimidate.

Lol, yea, wasn't planning on it... Someone asked me the other day what I did and my answer was a 'Yet to be licensed Attorney'

You're a student, not an attorney.

Am i still a student if i graduated though? The way they made it seem to us that we were attorneys who were yet to take the bar and therefore be able to practice. My apologies if this was incorrect.

 

[aphex]

Ok, just read the definition, you guys are correct, my mistake. I still don't know if I am considered to be a student though, I'm kinda in limbo

 

[aphex]

Thankfully he seems to be doing good right now, just took a few pics. I'll have them up momentarily.

 

[jakedeez]

well that sucks.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

Have you actually ever been to a dog park? Its a place where dogs are free to roam off leash, to play and run around with each other. Aggressive behavior is not permitted as noted on a sign when you enter.

Also, FL is a strict liability state when it comes to Dog Bites. I have yet to mention to the woman that I am an attorney, albeit not licensed to practice yet until I take the bar in 2 months...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. I still maintain that you took your dog there and therefore accept the responsibility and the possibility that something like that may occur.

Whatever it is you're smoking, quit bogarting it and pass it around man.

 

[Number1]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

Have you actually ever been to a dog park? Its a place where dogs are free to roam off leash, to play and run around with each other. Aggressive behavior is not permitted as noted on a sign when you enter.

Also, FL is a strict liability state when it comes to Dog Bites. I have yet to mention to the woman that I am an attorney, albeit not licensed to practice yet until I take the bar in 2 months...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. I still maintain that you took your dog there and therefore accept the responsibility and the possibility that something like that may occur.

Whatever it is you're smoking, quit bogarting it and pass it around man.

FilmCamera has a small dog mentality, all bark, no bite. yip yip yip yip yip.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: aphex
Picture of Riley for those interested; http://www.iiki.org/pics/riley1.jpg

Nice pic. :thumbsup:

You're doing the right thing giving her the opportunity to do the right thing. Although you may not be in the mood to (and I would understand that), even accepting her sincere apology and half the bill and then moving on, despite the letter of the law, might be a classy thing -- not that you couldn't make the case, in a gentlemanly way, for the entire bill.

But dogs happen. Give her a chance to step up and do the entire right thing first.

And pet Riley for me.

 

[SonnyDaze]

Originally posted by: chambersc
Is your dog fine, in the end?

I think the OP said his dog got bit in the neck so I think the dogs ass should be okay...

Hey OP hope your dog is doing better. I had a similar situation a few weeks ago. I was walking my female Black Lab (on a leash) and just as I was getting back to the house the neighbors male Rottweiler came out to the road and was sniffing my Lab. She didn't like it so she snapped at the Rottweiller and I jerked her back on the leash. Luckily the Rottweiler just growled and didn't react to it. Neighbor saw it and came out and got his dog and was apologizing. I was a litttle nervous for a second cause the Rottweiler would of for sure tore an new asshole in my Lab.

 

[NGC_604]

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

Have you actually ever been to a dog park? Its a place where dogs are free to roam off leash, to play and run around with each other. Aggressive behavior is not permitted as noted on a sign when you enter.

Also, FL is a strict liability state when it comes to Dog Bites. I have yet to mention to the woman that I am an attorney, albeit not licensed to practice yet until I take the bar in 2 months...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. I still maintain that you took your dog there and therefore accept the responsibility and the possibility that something like that may occur.

Well the park is designed for people who aren't retards and who have trained their dogs to also not be retards. Hence the whole "Aggressive behavior is not permitted" stuff. Reading is fun.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. ...

As much as I hate too, I have to agree.
http://www.leerburg.com/pdf/dogparks.pdf

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

DO you know what a dog park is? Do you know of something called the "law"?

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

Have you actually ever been to a dog park? Its a place where dogs are free to roam off leash, to play and run around with each other. Aggressive behavior is not permitted as noted on a sign when you enter.

Also, FL is a strict liability state when it comes to Dog Bites. I have yet to mention to the woman that I am an attorney, albeit not licensed to practice yet until I take the bar in 2 months...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. I still maintain that you took your dog there and therefore accept the responsibility and the possibility that something like that may occur.

You could maintain whatever you want.. the law says otherwise...

Dogs should get along with other dogs if the owner has a clue of what they are doing.. it is the owner' fault if a dog is aggressive, period.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: FilmCamera

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
Why would she have to settle anything? You took your dog there and in doing that took responsibility for what happened. Was your dog on a leash? Why did you allow your dog to go mess with some other dog?

Have you actually ever been to a dog park? Its a place where dogs are free to roam off leash, to play and run around with each other. Aggressive behavior is not permitted as noted on a sign when you enter.

Also, FL is a strict liability state when it comes to Dog Bites. I have yet to mention to the woman that I am an attorney, albeit not licensed to practice yet until I take the bar in 2 months...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. I still maintain that you took your dog there and therefore accept the responsibility and the possibility that something like that may occur.

Actually it is a great idea. It socializes the dogs which provides the physical benefits of running and playing, as well as the mental benefits of stimulation. It also helps to keep the dogs socialized to other dogs and people, which helps suppress the predator/prey drive (big hunting dog versus small lap dog) and the alpha in some dogs. Naturally, not all dogs are trained equally...don't blame the OP when you obviously know nothing about the subject.

Forgive me but that just doesnt make sense to me why anyone would take their dogs to suppress their natural tendencies. Their natural tendency is to run in a pack and by taking to a park with a buncha other dogs that exactly what your doing. If anything you are ENCOURAGING the alpha male nature of the bigger dogs. Then by introducing a smaller dog its like throwing a wounded deer to the lions. Then people blame the dog that bites the other for their dog not being trained properly when the dog is just protecting himself. I'd much rather have the dog that protects itself and its owner than one that goes gladly up to people. the pussification of america and its dogs grows :roll:

Is this all serious? A domesticated animal is not supposed to have those "natural tendencies." That is what MAKES it domesticated.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: FilmCamera
...

Oh yeah...that sounds like a great idea. Toss a bunch of dogs together and lets hope they can get along. ...

As much as I hate too, I have to agree.
http://www.leerburg.com/pdf/dogparks.pdf

I have been bringing my dogs to the dog park ever since I got them, in 3 different states. It gives them exercise, stimulates their mind, let's them socialize/play. It is great. If you know what you are doing you can spot an aggressive dog a mile away. Additionally, most dog parks nowadays have 2 different parks.. one for small/medium dogs and one for big dogs.

I started reading your linked file and it was pretty much nonsense. It was justifying how dogs are naturally aggressive etc... Complete and utter nonsense. If you don't know how to train/socialize your dog, you have no business in going to the dog park.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: aphex
Ok, just read the definition, you guys are correct, my mistake. I still don't know if I am considered to be a student though, I'm kinda in limbo

IIRC, you are a lawyer, but are not yet an attorney. However, I could certainly be wrong about this.

 

[ElFenix]

i believe my boss said 'lawyer pending license'