My dad is so *aaaaaaargh* Printer refills ARE teh best

[ndee]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all OK, you are right, refills DO work, they save you money, although I only had bad experience with them I think somehow I'm a friend of generalizations (sp?). If someone would buy 2 digital cameras from Canon, and they are both broken after 2 months, it might just be bad luck, but that person would never ever buy Canon cameras again I think (although they might be the best on the market) get my point?

You just had to do that didn't you...

A man who cannot even admit that he is wrong is no man.... you're too stupid to be helped, convince your father that those copperpads will not last five months if you wish to do so...

I was trying to give you some advice, but you just shove your head in the sand, now contine to believe that a printer can actually be destroyed by a refilll (ink-cartridge of course)...

I explained to you how it works, i took my time to do so... and you do this...

Well... that teaches you something, some people are tooo god damn dense...

??? I told ya I was wrong! I told ya that refill inks DO work, but still, I had bad experience with them. What's wrong with that? What is your point? I know I'm wrong but I would still have a weird feeling when I would use refills. Sheesh.

You still didn't explain to me how the ink cartridge did destroy that printer...

And your sarcasm... well, what did you expect?

GOD DAMN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PRINTER WAS DESTROYED AT WORK CUZ I WASNT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PRINTER. THE PRINTER JUST MADE SOME WEIRD PRINTS, like the ink would somehow "run out" or I don't know how to call it. It messed up the paper and stuff. There were ink spots and stuff on the paper.


btw, which sarcasm? The analogy with the camera?

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

For example, take the Laserjet 4500/4550 series of printers. $2,000+ color laser printers. Four toner cartridges are installed in a rotating carousel. Refilled cartridges are split open by the refilling company, & then resealed with nifty brass clips on the back of the cartridge. Problem is those clips have a tendency to come off, & when they do they fall down into the middle of the carousel. They tear the hell out of the carousel drive, & you might as well replace your printer. Replacing the carousel is a $300 part + several hours of labor, & the installation is very difficult. Most local repair places won't touch it, so you'll end up needing out of warranty on-site service - To the tune of $750-1000.

If the clips don't fall off, there is also a known issue when printing transparencies with 3rd party toner. For some reason the toner that is being put into the cartridges makes the transparencies stick to the fuser rollers & then melt nicely - The same effect as running an inkjet transparency through. It's easily fixed, though, the fuser has to be replaced. The cost for a new fuser? $350.

Viper GTS

These are INK cartridges..... if you would have even bothered to read it, you would know...

Regarding toners... i say... buy at best price but buy what you need...

Now... explain to me how INK cartridges can destroy the printer?

Please note:

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

Don't you look like an idiot now.

Viper GTS

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all OK, you are right, refills DO work, they save you money, although I only had bad experience with them I think somehow I'm a friend of generalizations (sp?). If someone would buy 2 digital cameras from Canon, and they are both broken after 2 months, it might just be bad luck, but that person would never ever buy Canon cameras again I think (although they might be the best on the market) get my point?

You just had to do that didn't you...

A man who cannot even admit that he is wrong is no man.... you're too stupid to be helped, convince your father that those copperpads will not last five months if you wish to do so...

I was trying to give you some advice, but you just shove your head in the sand, now contine to believe that a printer can actually be destroyed by a refilll (ink-cartridge of course)...

I explained to you how it works, i took my time to do so... and you do this...

Well... that teaches you something, some people are tooo god damn dense...

??? I told ya I was wrong! I told ya that refill inks DO work, but still, I had bad experience with them. What's wrong with that? What is your point? I know I'm wrong but I would still have a weird feeling when I would use refills. Sheesh.

You still didn't explain to me how the ink cartridge did destroy that printer...

And your sarcasm... well, what did you expect?

GOD DAMN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PRINTER WAS DESTROYED AT WORK CUZ I WASNT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PRINTER. THE PRINTER JUST MADE SOME WEIRD PRINTS, like the ink would somehow "run out" or I don't know how to call it. It messed up the paper and stuff. There were ink spots and stuff on the paper.


btw, which sarcasm? The analogy with the camera?

Soooo, you exchanged the cartridge and the printer was ok?... well... you prove my point...

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all OK, you are right, refills DO work, they save you money, although I only had bad experience with them I think somehow I'm a friend of generalizations (sp?). If someone would buy 2 digital cameras from Canon, and they are both broken after 2 months, it might just be bad luck, but that person would never ever buy Canon cameras again I think (although they might be the best on the market) get my point?

You just had to do that didn't you...

A man who cannot even admit that he is wrong is no man.... you're too stupid to be helped, convince your father that those copperpads will not last five months if you wish to do so...

I was trying to give you some advice, but you just shove your head in the sand, now contine to believe that a printer can actually be destroyed by a refilll (ink-cartridge of course)...

I explained to you how it works, i took my time to do so... and you do this...

Well... that teaches you something, some people are tooo god damn dense...

??? I told ya I was wrong! I told ya that refill inks DO work, but still, I had bad experience with them. What's wrong with that? What is your point? I know I'm wrong but I would still have a weird feeling when I would use refills. Sheesh.

You still didn't explain to me how the ink cartridge did destroy that printer...

And your sarcasm... well, what did you expect?

GOD DAMN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PRINTER WAS DESTROYED AT WORK CUZ I WASNT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PRINTER. THE PRINTER JUST MADE SOME WEIRD PRINTS, like the ink would somehow "run out" or I don't know how to call it. It messed up the paper and stuff. There were ink spots and stuff on the paper.


btw, which sarcasm? The analogy with the camera?

Soooo, you exchanged the cartridge and the printer was ok?... well... you prove my point...

Yes, I think that's what the IT guy did, and that also proves my point. Refills aren't worth the mess. Period.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

For example, take the Laserjet 4500/4550 series of printers. $2,000+ color laser printers. Four toner cartridges are installed in a rotating carousel. Refilled cartridges are split open by the refilling company, & then resealed with nifty brass clips on the back of the cartridge. Problem is those clips have a tendency to come off, & when they do they fall down into the middle of the carousel. They tear the hell out of the carousel drive, & you might as well replace your printer. Replacing the carousel is a $300 part + several hours of labor, & the installation is very difficult. Most local repair places won't touch it, so you'll end up needing out of warranty on-site service - To the tune of $750-1000.

If the clips don't fall off, there is also a known issue when printing transparencies with 3rd party toner. For some reason the toner that is being put into the cartridges makes the transparencies stick to the fuser rollers & then melt nicely - The same effect as running an inkjet transparency through. It's easily fixed, though, the fuser has to be replaced. The cost for a new fuser? $350.

Viper GTS

These are INK cartridges..... if you would have even bothered to read it, you would know...

Regarding toners... i say... buy at best price but buy what you need...

Now... explain to me how INK cartridges can destroy the printer?

Please note:

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

Don't you look like an idiot now.

Viper GTS

Actually, coming into a thread where some sorry sucker wants to persuade his father to buy new INK cartridges instead of refilling them... you are OT in a thread in OT..

You do realize that your answer had NOTHING to do with this thread, right?

And if you would have bothered to read the thread OR my answer to you, you would know that... Smartass...

Actually Viper... and ndee... i really don't want to be the smartass either, but it seems to me that Viper is talking about something different and should start another thread if he want's to discuss it... and ndee... i gave you some good advice... take it and stop whining...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all OK, you are right, refills DO work, they save you money, although I only had bad experience with them I think somehow I'm a friend of generalizations (sp?). If someone would buy 2 digital cameras from Canon, and they are both broken after 2 months, it might just be bad luck, but that person would never ever buy Canon cameras again I think (although they might be the best on the market) get my point?

You just had to do that didn't you...

A man who cannot even admit that he is wrong is no man.... you're too stupid to be helped, convince your father that those copperpads will not last five months if you wish to do so...

I was trying to give you some advice, but you just shove your head in the sand, now contine to believe that a printer can actually be destroyed by a refilll (ink-cartridge of course)...

I explained to you how it works, i took my time to do so... and you do this...

Well... that teaches you something, some people are tooo god damn dense...

??? I told ya I was wrong! I told ya that refill inks DO work, but still, I had bad experience with them. What's wrong with that? What is your point? I know I'm wrong but I would still have a weird feeling when I would use refills. Sheesh.

You still didn't explain to me how the ink cartridge did destroy that printer...

And your sarcasm... well, what did you expect?

GOD DAMN I DON'T KNOW HOW THE PRINTER WAS DESTROYED AT WORK CUZ I WASNT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT PRINTER. THE PRINTER JUST MADE SOME WEIRD PRINTS, like the ink would somehow "run out" or I don't know how to call it. It messed up the paper and stuff. There were ink spots and stuff on the paper.


btw, which sarcasm? The analogy with the camera?

Soooo, you exchanged the cartridge and the printer was ok?... well... you prove my point...

Yes, I think that's what the IT guy did, and that also proves my point. Refills aren't worth the mess. Period.

Actually... YOU are not worth the mess... i tried, i really did...

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

For example, take the Laserjet 4500/4550 series of printers. $2,000+ color laser printers. Four toner cartridges are installed in a rotating carousel. Refilled cartridges are split open by the refilling company, & then resealed with nifty brass clips on the back of the cartridge. Problem is those clips have a tendency to come off, & when they do they fall down into the middle of the carousel. They tear the hell out of the carousel drive, & you might as well replace your printer. Replacing the carousel is a $300 part + several hours of labor, & the installation is very difficult. Most local repair places won't touch it, so you'll end up needing out of warranty on-site service - To the tune of $750-1000.

If the clips don't fall off, there is also a known issue when printing transparencies with 3rd party toner. For some reason the toner that is being put into the cartridges makes the transparencies stick to the fuser rollers & then melt nicely - The same effect as running an inkjet transparency through. It's easily fixed, though, the fuser has to be replaced. The cost for a new fuser? $350.

Viper GTS

These are INK cartridges..... if you would have even bothered to read it, you would know...

Regarding toners... i say... buy at best price but buy what you need...

Now... explain to me how INK cartridges can destroy the printer?

Please note:

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

Don't you look like an idiot now.

Viper GTS

Actually, coming into a thread where some sorry sucker wants to persuade his father to buy new INK cartridges instead of refilling them... you are OT in a thread in OT..

You do realize that your answer had NOTHING to do with this thread, right?

And if you would have bothered to read the thread OR my answer to you, you would know that... Smartass...

Actually Viper... and ndee... i really don't want to be the smartass either, but it seems to me that Viper is talking about something different and should start another thread if he want's to discuss it... and ndee... i gave you some good advice... take it and stop whining...

I TOOK YOUR FVCKING ADVICE BUT YOU ARE STILL COMING BACK ALL THE TIME! :| You also don't accept that there CAN be troubles with refills. And yeah, calling someone names for nothing, isn't very cool either.

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: SnapITActually... YOU are not worth the mess... i tried, i really did...

Go cry me a river.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapITActually... YOU are not worth the mess... i tried, i really did...

Go cry me a river.

Go buy a clue... then you might save your dad some money...

 

[Lucky]

IVE GOT A BIGGER PENIS THAN YOU!

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapITActually... YOU are not worth the mess... i tried, i really did...

Go cry me a river.

Go buy a clue... then you might save your dad some money...

Go buy a refill and clean your printer afterwords.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

For example, take the Laserjet 4500/4550 series of printers. $2,000+ color laser printers. Four toner cartridges are installed in a rotating carousel. Refilled cartridges are split open by the refilling company, & then resealed with nifty brass clips on the back of the cartridge. Problem is those clips have a tendency to come off, & when they do they fall down into the middle of the carousel. They tear the hell out of the carousel drive, & you might as well replace your printer. Replacing the carousel is a $300 part + several hours of labor, & the installation is very difficult. Most local repair places won't touch it, so you'll end up needing out of warranty on-site service - To the tune of $750-1000.

If the clips don't fall off, there is also a known issue when printing transparencies with 3rd party toner. For some reason the toner that is being put into the cartridges makes the transparencies stick to the fuser rollers & then melt nicely - The same effect as running an inkjet transparency through. It's easily fixed, though, the fuser has to be replaced. The cost for a new fuser? $350.

Viper GTS

These are INK cartridges..... if you would have even bothered to read it, you would know...

Regarding toners... i say... buy at best price but buy what you need...

Now... explain to me how INK cartridges can destroy the printer?

Please note:

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

Don't you look like an idiot now.

Viper GTS

Actually, coming into a thread where some sorry sucker wants to persuade his father to buy new INK cartridges instead of refilling them... you are OT in a thread in OT..

You do realize that your answer had NOTHING to do with this thread, right?

And if you would have bothered to read the thread OR my answer to you, you would know that... Smartass...

Actually Viper... and ndee... i really don't want to be the smartass either, but it seems to me that Viper is talking about something different and should start another thread if he want's to discuss it... and ndee... i gave you some good advice... take it and stop whining...

You really are a f-tard, you know that? I came into your thread, AGREED with you (that inkjet refills are likely harmless), and posted a clarification that just because 3rd party ink = safe does not mean that 3rd party toner = safe. There is a world of difference in the operation of inkjet and laser printers, and to assume that 3rd party consumables are A-OK for all printers is naive.

You, however, are too stupid to realize that I was SUPPORTING you, and warning people at the same time.

Viper GTS

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

For example, take the Laserjet 4500/4550 series of printers. $2,000+ color laser printers. Four toner cartridges are installed in a rotating carousel. Refilled cartridges are split open by the refilling company, & then resealed with nifty brass clips on the back of the cartridge. Problem is those clips have a tendency to come off, & when they do they fall down into the middle of the carousel. They tear the hell out of the carousel drive, & you might as well replace your printer. Replacing the carousel is a $300 part + several hours of labor, & the installation is very difficult. Most local repair places won't touch it, so you'll end up needing out of warranty on-site service - To the tune of $750-1000.

If the clips don't fall off, there is also a known issue when printing transparencies with 3rd party toner. For some reason the toner that is being put into the cartridges makes the transparencies stick to the fuser rollers & then melt nicely - The same effect as running an inkjet transparency through. It's easily fixed, though, the fuser has to be replaced. The cost for a new fuser? $350.

Viper GTS

These are INK cartridges..... if you would have even bothered to read it, you would know...

Regarding toners... i say... buy at best price but buy what you need...

Now... explain to me how INK cartridges can destroy the printer?

Please note:

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

Don't you look like an idiot now.

Viper GTS

Actually, coming into a thread where some sorry sucker wants to persuade his father to buy new INK cartridges instead of refilling them... you are OT in a thread in OT..

You do realize that your answer had NOTHING to do with this thread, right?

And if you would have bothered to read the thread OR my answer to you, you would know that... Smartass...

Actually Viper... and ndee... i really don't want to be the smartass either, but it seems to me that Viper is talking about something different and should start another thread if he want's to discuss it... and ndee... i gave you some good advice... take it and stop whining...

I TOOK YOUR FVCKING ADVICE BUT YOU ARE STILL COMING BACK ALL THE TIME! :| You also don't accept that there CAN be troubles with refills. And yeah, calling someone names for nothing, isn't very cool either.

No you didn't, you were the one who called me names and you were the one who wouldn't accept the fact that you might be wrong... all you wanted was agreement... well, you're in the wrong place...

Oh, i am sooo sorry if i hurt your ego... not...

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

No you didn't, you were the one who called me names and you were the one who wouldn't accept the fact that you might be wrong... all you wanted was agreement... well, you're in the wrong place...

Oh, i am sooo sorry if i hurt your ego... not...

Where did I call you names? Where? Anyway, you're not worth my time. Buy refills and be happy. I gonna buy always a new cartridge and I sure will be happy. Period.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT


but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...

You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...

It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...

Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...

In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).

Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...

The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...

And yes, refills work... that was my point...

Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!


Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...

Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...

The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?

I just don't get your point here...

at all..

and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...

ok?

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

For example, take the Laserjet 4500/4550 series of printers. $2,000+ color laser printers. Four toner cartridges are installed in a rotating carousel. Refilled cartridges are split open by the refilling company, & then resealed with nifty brass clips on the back of the cartridge. Problem is those clips have a tendency to come off, & when they do they fall down into the middle of the carousel. They tear the hell out of the carousel drive, & you might as well replace your printer. Replacing the carousel is a $300 part + several hours of labor, & the installation is very difficult. Most local repair places won't touch it, so you'll end up needing out of warranty on-site service - To the tune of $750-1000.

If the clips don't fall off, there is also a known issue when printing transparencies with 3rd party toner. For some reason the toner that is being put into the cartridges makes the transparencies stick to the fuser rollers & then melt nicely - The same effect as running an inkjet transparency through. It's easily fixed, though, the fuser has to be replaced. The cost for a new fuser? $350.

Viper GTS

These are INK cartridges..... if you would have even bothered to read it, you would know...

Regarding toners... i say... buy at best price but buy what you need...

Now... explain to me how INK cartridges can destroy the printer?

Please note:

Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.

Don't you look like an idiot now.

Viper GTS

Actually, coming into a thread where some sorry sucker wants to persuade his father to buy new INK cartridges instead of refilling them... you are OT in a thread in OT..

You do realize that your answer had NOTHING to do with this thread, right?

And if you would have bothered to read the thread OR my answer to you, you would know that... Smartass...

Actually Viper... and ndee... i really don't want to be the smartass either, but it seems to me that Viper is talking about something different and should start another thread if he want's to discuss it... and ndee... i gave you some good advice... take it and stop whining...

You really are a f-tard, you know that? I came into your thread, AGREED with you (that inkjet refills are likely harmless), and posted a clarification that just because 3rd party ink = safe does not mean that 3rd party toner = safe. There is a world of difference in the operation of inkjet and laser printers, and to assume that 3rd party consumables are A-OK for all printers is naive.

You, however, are too stupid to realize that I was SUPPORTING you, and warning people at the same time.

Viper GTS

Yeah, maybe i'm to stupid, or it's something else... sorry viper, i totally misunderstood your post... Maybe i'm just to god damn wired... i dunno... but when i read your post again... well... sorry...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: SnapIT

No you didn't, you were the one who called me names and you were the one who wouldn't accept the fact that you might be wrong... all you wanted was agreement... well, you're in the wrong place...

Oh, i am sooo sorry if i hurt your ego... not...

Where did I call you names? Where? Anyway, you're not worth my time. Buy refills and be happy. I gonna buy always a new cartridge and I sure will be happy. Period.

yes, and please convince your father too, even though you don't have a clue why you do it... Damn man... maybe i was a bit harsh... i just get so damn frustrated when someone questiones what i have been doing for soooooo long...

No hard feelings.. ?

 

[isekii]

I've been using refill cartridges on my Epson 880 and it's working great for me..

It's not a refill ... like the needle and stuf..

it's a whole new cartridge ( generic ) that i picked upfor like 2 bucks a piece..

 

[Kev]

I think someone *cough* SnapIT *cough* is taking the printer argument waaaay too seriously.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: maladroit
I think someone *cough* SnapIT *cough* is taking the printer argument waaaay too seriously.

ahhh. shut it... ;-)

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: maladroit
I think someone *cough* SnapIT *cough* is taking the printer argument waaaay too seriously.

ahhh. shut it... ;-)

You guys actually change your cartridges? :Q Or refill your ink?

In today's throwaway world, I can get a brand new printer for less than the price of replacement cartridges. My current printer - Epson C62 cost me $12.50 after MIR; the one before (HP 842) was free after MIR. It's been YEARS since I bought ANY ink.