OK, we had to buy new cartridges for our HP 940C printer. And I KNOW that you should never ever buy refills, if the printer is something worth to you. I saw them printer going bad after using refill cartridges. Now he found that page: http://www.inky-fingers.com/. And he wants to do that. I told him that is wasn't a good idea, a friend of mine who is a computer engineer told him it isn't a good idea to use refills, how can someone still be so stubborn? I really hope I won't be so stubborn when I'm as old as my dad (65yrs.).
My dad is so *aaaaaaargh* Printer refills ARE teh best
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refills work fine if you know what you are doing...who tf wants to pay 40 bucks for a couple squirts of ink
makes the printer go bad in what way? you do realize that you replace the printer heads with the cartridge?
did it splatter all over the printer or what? because that is the only way your argument makes sense...
??? We had this HP printer at work. And if you exchange the cartridge, you also exchange the "connection between the ink and printer". If you always refill your cartridge, you're not going to replace those "connection between the ink and printer", and they will go bad sooner or later.
LOL, you haven't got a clue, do you... the connection between the ink and the printer is a connection pad (basically some copper pads on the printer that makes contact with the copper pads on the ink cartridge) and it doesn't go more or less bad whether you reuse the the cartridges...
And if the connection pads on the cartridge does go bad... replace the cartridge, if the connection pad on the printer goes bad... you have a very bad printer... a smart thing to do would be to use some ethyl alcohol and clean the connection surfaces every now and then though...
First, before you recommend ANYTHING, be sure that you know what you are talking about...
WTF?
on their FAQ regarding "chipped" cartridges:
As a direct result of this 'disablement technology', 'Inky Fingers' will be withdrawing all magazine advertising during the coming months. Currently we are unable to find out why a cry of protest about this 'disablement technology' has not reached the editorial departments of major computer magazine editors and if it has; they are awfully quiet about the subject so far it seems. Our position remains simple, we have to withdraw advertising in these magazines. We apologize for this inconvenience to our customers.
on their FAQ regarding "chipped" cartridges:
As a direct result of this 'disablement technology', 'Inky Fingers' will be withdrawing all magazine advertising during the coming months. Currently we are unable to find out why a cry of protest about this 'disablement technology' has not reached the editorial departments of major computer magazine editors and if it has; they are awfully quiet about the subject so far it seems. Our position remains simple, we have to withdraw advertising in these magazines. We apologize for this inconvenience to our customers.
Originally posted by: Lucky
WTF?
on their FAQ regarding "chipped" cartridges:
As a direct result of this 'disablement technology', 'Inky Fingers' will be withdrawing all magazine advertising during the coming months. Currently we are unable to find out why a cry of protest about this 'disablement technology' has not reached the editorial departments of major computer magazine editors and if it has; they are awfully quiet about the subject so far it seems. Our position remains simple, we have to withdraw advertising in these magazines. We apologize for this inconvenience to our customers.
HP got to them... IBM, a magazine used to be no more than it's readers, nowdays, it's no more than the advertisers... sad...
If I replace the cartridge, I see some copper interconnects. When I replace the ink with the cartridge, I also replace those copper interconnects. Period.
And Desslok, check where I'm from, so I don't really care
(I like them girls?) It's slaaaaaaaaang hahaOriginally posted by: ndee
If I replace the cartridge, I see some copper interconnects. When I replace the ink with the cartridge, I also replace those copper interconnects. Period.
And Desslok, check where I'm from, so I don't really care
On the cartridge... yes, on the printer... no... why can't you just admit that you were wrong?
If you could explain to me, how on earth reusing the same cartridge could destroy the printer... i would give you... a big fat kiss...
Let your father refill his cartridges, clean of the surfaces and be HAPPY that he got away with a cheaper deal than your stupid ass friend from work...
Now... if you really want to continue to argue... then please explain this... those copperpads are thick enough to last at least 15 times the printers lifetime (yeah, i know, it's far from enough, but just making an example), let's say the printer's lifetime is 10 years... that would mean that those copperpads will last 150 years... and now, you feel the need to exchange them??? why??? there is no friction to be bothered about, the only thing you need to bother about is the contact...
Of course, the printer heads can go bad... then you exchange the cartridge, but that does NOT destroy the printer...
You don't know what you're talking about and you don't want to admit it, why not fess up insteda of making an even bigger fool out of yourself?
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: ndee
If I replace the cartridge, I see some copper interconnects. When I replace the ink with the cartridge, I also replace those copper interconnects. Period.
And Desslok, check where I'm from, so I don't really care
On the cartridge... yes, on the printer... no... why can't you just admit that you were wrong?
If you could explain to me, how on earth reusing the same cartridge could destroy the printer... i would give you... a big fat kiss...
Let your father refill his cartridges, clean of the surfaces and be HAPPY that he got away with a cheaper deal than your stupid ass friend from work...
Now... if you really want to continue to argue... then please explain this... those copperpads are thick enough to last at least 15 times the printers lifetime (yeah, i know, it's far from enough, but just making an example), let's say the printer's lifetime is 10 years... that would mean that those copperpads will last 150 years... and now, you feel the need to exchange them??? why??? there is no friction to be bothered about, the only thing you need to bother about is the contact...
Of course, the printer heads can go bad... then you exchange the cartridge, but that does NOT destroy the printer...
You don't know what you're talking about and you don't want to admit it, why not fess up insteda of making an even bigger fool out of yourself?
I'm talking about those on the cartridges. I never said the inter connects on the printer would go bad. That's what I just read on the HP install instruction. OK, maybe they just say that, to make more money and buy the cartridges from them. Could be. Couldn't it be that HP really makes them less quality, so that it's really better to exchange them sometime? I don't know. OK, I could be wrong, so what? Do you want a cookie?
OK, there might be a misunderstanding. Cartridge is that thing that contains the ink, right?
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: ndee
If I replace the cartridge, I see some copper interconnects. When I replace the ink with the cartridge, I also replace those copper interconnects. Period.
And Desslok, check where I'm from, so I don't really care
On the cartridge... yes, on the printer... no... why can't you just admit that you were wrong?
If you could explain to me, how on earth reusing the same cartridge could destroy the printer... i would give you... a big fat kiss...
Let your father refill his cartridges, clean of the surfaces and be HAPPY that he got away with a cheaper deal than your stupid ass friend from work...
Now... if you really want to continue to argue... then please explain this... those copperpads are thick enough to last at least 15 times the printers lifetime (yeah, i know, it's far from enough, but just making an example), let's say the printer's lifetime is 10 years... that would mean that those copperpads will last 150 years... and now, you feel the need to exchange them??? why??? there is no friction to be bothered about, the only thing you need to bother about is the contact...
Of course, the printer heads can go bad... then you exchange the cartridge, but that does NOT destroy the printer...
You don't know what you're talking about and you don't want to admit it, why not fess up insteda of making an even bigger fool out of yourself?
I'm talking about those on the cartridges. I never said the inter connects on the printer would go bad. That's what I just read on the HP install instruction. OK, maybe they just say that, to make more money and buy the cartridges from them. Could be. Couldn't it be that HP really makes them less quality, so that it's really better to exchange them sometime? I don't know. OK, I could be wrong, so what? Do you want a cookie?
OK, there might be a misunderstanding. Cartridge is that thing that contains the ink, right?
but your friend managed to destroy the printer by using refills? Exactly how did he do that? or was that just bs? yes, i'm calling you on this one as you question me...
You can try to wave it off, but you went head to head in the first place, being that cocky and not having the slightest idea what you're talking about... you will get burned...
It's nothing personal man, i hope you realize that, but still, you continue to argue, when i already answered that in my last post, those copperpads will last for about 150 years, it's cool... let your dad refill...
Naturally, HP says "only buy our cartridges" you know why... i don't have to tell you...
In our company, we used a refill ink. AFTER we used the refill thingie, the printer went belly up(that's what our IT guy told us), maybe it was just a coincidence? I don't know. That friend told me the same story. And after 2 experiences, in my book that refill ink is not good. Or maybe it was because we didn't use the original HP thinige, some cartridge from another company. OK, maybe refills are ok, but I just had bad experience with it. And maybe I was just upset cuz the page stated, that if you buy over their store, the credit card info isn't encrypted (but that has nothing to do with the refill thingie, I know).
Think for yourself man... don't take my word for it, and some corporate idiots words for it... decide for yourself...
The thing is, ther is NO WAY IN HELL that you can do any damage to your printer (unless you squirt the fluid wher it should not be)...
And yes, refills work... that was my point...
Your point was that a refill destroyed a printer and that is BS!
Take a look at the mechanics inside this kind of a printer... it's a toothed rubber ribbon, a guide and the cartridge holder... that is it...
Even you understand that what you're saying is impossible...
The rest of your story.. what can i say... let your father get his refills... why do you want him to pay more?
I just don't get your point here...
at all..
and you change.. from post to post... make your point and be done with it, accept that i might know more, take the advice that i have to give, if you need more, ask for it...
ok?
well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all
OK, you are right, refills DO work, they save you money, although I only had bad experience with them I think somehow I'm a friend of generalizations (sp?). If someone would buy 2 digital cameras from Canon, and they are both broken after 2 months, it might just be bad luck, but that person would never ever buy Canon cameras again I think (although they might be the best on the market) get my point?Originally posted by: ndee
well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all
You just had to do that didn't you...
A man who cannot even admit that he is wrong is no man.... you're too stupid to be helped, convince your father that those copperpads will not last five months if you wish to do so...
I was trying to give you some advice, but you just shove your head in the sand, now contine to believe that a printer can actually be destroyed by a refilll (ink-cartridge of course)...
I explained to you how it works, i took my time to do so... and you do this...
Well... that teaches you something, some people are tooo god damn dense...
Although refilled inkjet cartridges are probably relatively harmless, the potential for sub-standard consumables to destroy components in a printer is VERY real.
For example, take the Laserjet 4500/4550 series of printers. $2,000+ color laser printers. Four toner cartridges are installed in a rotating carousel. Refilled cartridges are split open by the refilling company, & then resealed with nifty brass clips on the back of the cartridge. Problem is those clips have a tendency to come off, & when they do they fall down into the middle of the carousel. They tear the hell out of the carousel drive, & you might as well replace your printer. Replacing the carousel is a $300 part + several hours of labor, & the installation is very difficult. Most local repair places won't touch it, so you'll end up needing out of warranty on-site service - To the tune of $750-1000.
If the clips don't fall off, there is also a known issue when printing transparencies with 3rd party toner. For some reason the toner that is being put into the cartridges makes the transparencies stick to the fuser rollers & then melt nicely - The same effect as running an inkjet transparency through. It's easily fixed, though, the fuser has to be replaced. The cost for a new fuser? $350.
Viper GTS
These are INK cartridges..... if you would have even bothered to read it, you would know...
Regarding toners... i say... buy at best price but buy what you need...
Now... explain to me how INK cartridges can destroy the printer?
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: ndee
well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all
You just had to do that didn't you...
A man who cannot even admit that he is wrong is no man.... you're too stupid to be helped, convince your father that those copperpads will not last five months if you wish to do so...
I was trying to give you some advice, but you just shove your head in the sand, now contine to believe that a printer can actually be destroyed by a refilll (ink-cartridge of course)...
I explained to you how it works, i took my time to do so... and you do this...
Well... that teaches you something, some people are tooo god damn dense...
??? I told ya I was wrong! I told ya that refill inks DO work, but still, I had bad experience with them. What's wrong with that? What is your point? I know I'm wrong but I would still have a weird feeling when I would use refills. Sheesh.
Originally posted by: ndee
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: ndee
well I never said that I might be the mister-know-it-all
You just had to do that didn't you...
A man who cannot even admit that he is wrong is no man.... you're too stupid to be helped, convince your father that those copperpads will not last five months if you wish to do so...
I was trying to give you some advice, but you just shove your head in the sand, now contine to believe that a printer can actually be destroyed by a refilll (ink-cartridge of course)...
I explained to you how it works, i took my time to do so... and you do this...
Well... that teaches you something, some people are tooo god damn dense...
??? I told ya I was wrong! I told ya that refill inks DO work, but still, I had bad experience with them. What's wrong with that? What is your point? I know I'm wrong but I would still have a weird feeling when I would use refills. Sheesh.
You still didn't explain to me how the ink cartridge did destroy that printer...
And your sarcasm... well, what did you expect?
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