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My computer is trying to die...but I refuse to let it!

MLSoccer06

Junior Member
For reference here are my relevant system specs:
Pentium 4C 2.8 running stock speed
1GB Ram Geil Brand 2.5 4 4 8 timings -- 2 512 sticks running in dual channel
Chaintech Motherboard 875 Chipset - 2 SATA I ports 4 Ram slots
Main HD is a Maxtor, first generation SATA or so
New HD is also Maxtor Diamondmax 10, SATA II


Over the past few months I have noticed my computer gradually performing slower and slower, getting into the crawl as new programs are installed, data comes and goes, etc.

I practice regular system maintenance such as uninstalling unused programs, somewhat regular defrags, etc.

I decided recently to backup all my pertinent data and start over with a clean format. Backup done, on an external, all clear there.

THe problems start when I open the case for a little dusting and to install a new HD while I am in there. The SATA HD install seems smooth, case nice and clean inside, all wires connected, everything seems tiptop.

I decide that since I am starting over I might as well run a memtest on my memory, since its a few years old and in the past I had this error where my computer would BSoD when I soft/hard reset it. The only way to reboot is shutdown, wait 10 seconds, and power on. I thought this might potentially be a memory issue.

Running the test everything seems find for a couple hours, then an error crops up, just one error on one segment on one test. Well it turns into a handful of errors, perhaps 7 all on the same section of the memory.

I looked but could not find the implications of such an error, whether my memory was bad or what. At this point I decided that since my PC was working fairly well even earlier that day, I would go on ahead and insert my Windows Pro CD to begin a reformat.

This is where the problems start. The CD begins to load, loading drivers and even beginning the setup process, but it freezes at some random point, different places on different attempts. Sometimes it wont finish loading drivers before CD activity stops and it freezes, one time it began a reformat to 1 percent...effectively wiping my OS install...before freezing.

The only thing I can think of is that this is a RAM issue, however something else I might mention is that now, after inserting this new HD, my first, and primary for 2 years HD will not spin up, and is not recognized by the bios or windows setup. I know the connections are fine, I even switched the 2 HDs into each others plugs and it is always the old one that fails to spin.

What do you all think is going on here, is my memory definitely hosed? If so why is it only now suddenly showing severe symptoms. And what could cause a previously rock solid hard drive to cease spinup activities? Thank you in advance for your reading of this lengthy query.
 
It does sound like there's something wrong with your memory.

I would run Memtest on one stick at a time, only booting with one stick installed, try to see if there's one bad stick or both are bad....
 
I'd look at when your problems started. They started when you went inside the box to do some housecleaning, etc.

What I would do is go back in the box, and carefully reseat EVERY cable and every RAM module and check to see if all power cables were seated correctly, etc. I would think that you might have jarred something when you were in there the first time.
 
Ok, I have rechecked all cables etc, preparing to run memtest86. Something odd to note however is that figuring it was memory i tried the windows install with each stick separately and it performed similarly.

As for memtest--does any type of error conclusively mean its bad memory, or would a handful of errors on the full battery of tests be within reason?

Thanks for the replies so far.
 
Interesting development--everything reseated all connections solid.

I loaded up memtest and saw it came up and left the room--came back to check on it and it was frozen on 15 seconds of the test...

Does this indicate a failing CD drive then? Could explain the freezes, if the drive just stops spinning the disc...however this is occuring in both my drives...which as of 2 days ago read dvds and burned cds perfectly...

Hmm..in a different drive memtest--loaded from cd by the way--froze again.

I am at a loss. Will try the second memory stick in case thats the issue.
 
I still think this sounds like a memory issue. Try to find a known good stick of RAM and test it in your mainboard, to rule out other problems.
 
I think I will do that, perhaps somehow my memory all went bad at the same time...nothing has changed to cause that but it is possible I suppose.

The second stick caused memtest to lock up as well, and when I rebooted then the bios froze...it must be the memory.

I will try and find someone with my kind of memory and test it out, thanks for the advice.
 
Again, follow the trail. You installed a new SATA drive. You said you swapped them around, but have you tried running the pc with just the original SATA HD BY ITSELF installed? I know there are coincidences in life, but this trouble seems just a little too convenient.
 
I would suggest to run memtest using only: RAM, video card, cpu+heatsink.
That way, it rules out any peripherals.
You also might want to clear the bios in case there are any incorrect configurations.
 
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