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My Budget Gaming Build - Final Review

Sorry to make a new thread about it but I just wanted to focus the attention on this new build.

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1. What YOUR PC will be used for:
Gaming, general multitasking (internet browsing, playing music, downloading content, instant messaging, etc.)

2. What YOUR budget is.
Before taxes, to be $800-$900 CAD = $775-$875 US.

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
Canada (City of Toronto).

4. IF YOU have a brand preference.
Just looking for quality.

5. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Only have a mouse to use.

6. IF YOU have searched and/or read similar threads.
Oh yeah! I've been researching this stuff non-stop for about 2 weeks now.

7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
If I am 99.9 percent certain that nothing will go wrong then I would try it. Otherwise I will hold off until I get another computer as a backup (this is my first build).

8. What resolution YOU plan on gaming with.
1920x1080 🙂

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
Plan to order as soon as possible, built and running smoothly before 3 weeks elapse.

10. Don't ask for a build configuration critique or rating if you are thin skinned.
I would appreciate comments as long as they are rational.

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Hi, this is my first time building a computer and I am just about ready to order my parts unless some big concerns surface. Going with these local suppliers makes my shipping cost $0.

Here is my build.

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Supplier 1: www.canadacomputers.com

Asus VH242H 23.6" 1080p LCD - $180 AR
http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...dq43tjh7pg9qa0

Antec 300 Case - $50 AR
http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...dq43tjh7pg9qa0

2 x Cooler Master 120 mm LED fan - $20
http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...dq43tjh7pg9qa0

Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 OEM - $10
http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...dq43tjh7pg9qa0

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Supplier 2: www.ncix.com

Athlon II X4 635 2.9 GHz Processor - $105
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...D&promoid=1008

Asus Radeon HD EAS5770 1 Gb Video Card - $140 AR
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...S&promoid=1008

2 x 2 Gb G.Skill DDR3-1333 RAM - $98
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=30167&...acture=G.Skill

OCZ Z-Series 650W 80+ Silver Power Supply - $40 AR
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45236&...y&promoid=1008

Asus M4A77TD Motherboard - $70 AR
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...S&promoid=1008

Seagate 500 Gb SATA Hard Drive - $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=36050&...e&promoid=1008

Samsung 22X SATA DVD Writer OEM - $23
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...g&promoid=1008

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit OEM - $106
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...t&promoid=1008

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Total: $882 CAD ($856 US)

Thanks guys.

P.S. Please let me know if you feel the CPU/Mobo/RAM are not compatible. I don't want to run into issues. I know the motherboard isn't the best one out there but I'm pretty happy with it's value.

P.S.S. I was just slightly concerned about the GPU. I was pretty happy with the price and the fact that its a Radeon HD 5770 but I have been checking out some of the reviews for it and am thinking perhaps I should go for a card that has had a better success rate. What do you guys think?
 
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I'm not the biggest fan of OCZ PSUs or Seagate HDDs, but those are some damn good prices. Everything else looks fine.
 
Yeah, heh if I could get those prices for WD and Corsair I would!
The WD HD are $10 more and the PS is just a raw good deal. What would you do?

So you think the Asus EAH5770 is okay? It's the only component of my build that has a sub 80% (4/5 + 5/5) rating on newegg.com reviews.
The OCZ power supply has very few reviews but they are all 5/5 on both newegg.com and ncix.com. I am really thinking about going with a different 5770 model even though my friend said they are overpriced for their performance @ around 160-180$.
 
By the way, there's a deal going on that I can get a BFG 550W power supply for $45 when I buy one of the featured video cards. Do you think I should take that and choose the $10 more expensive Western Digital HD?

I was just considered as usual about not having enough juice but I guess 550W enough too right?
 
Yeah, heh if I could get those prices for WD and Corsair I would!
The WD HD are $10 more and the PS is just a raw good deal. What would you do?

So you think the Asus EAH5770 is okay? It's the only component of my build that has a sub 80% (4/5 + 5/5) rating on newegg.com reviews.
The OCZ power supply has very few reviews but they are all 5/5 on both newegg.com and ncix.com. I am really thinking about going with a different 5770 model even though my friend said they are overpriced for their performance @ around 160-180$.

Do not, under any circumstances pay more than $150 for a 5770. It's just not worth that much. The ASUS card will be fine. It has a 3 year warranty, so if it breaks, ASUS will take care of you.

By the way, there's a deal going on that I can get a BFG 550W power supply for $45 when I buy one of the featured video cards. Do you think I should take that and choose the $10 more expensive Western Digital HD?

I was just considered as usual about not having enough juice but I guess 550W enough too right?

Even 400W is plenty for a 5770 and 635.
 
Yeah, I guess you are right about the warranty although I have read some stuff about games crashing from this card. Do they warranty that as well? Or is that just an inconvenience you will have to live with for a card that works great most of the time?

About the power supply and hard drive then I think I will switch them if you think BFG 550W and Western Digital 500Gb would be better.

EDIT: Also that the card runs at high temperatures due to commonly defective heatsink/fan units.
 
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However, the BFG 550W power supply in the deal has only a 1 year warranty.

I'm open to suggestion on the power supply.

EDIT: Also, the BFG 550W supply isn't 80+ certified (it seems this is a big deal even though I don't know the specific technical implication of this).

Here is the link: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=37325&vpn=BFGR550WGSPSU&manufacture=BFG%20Technologies

It's $45 as a combo with certain video cards.

80+ means that it gets over 80% efficiency above 20% load.
 
Guys thanks so much for your help so much I promise this weekend I will put the order in and stop badgering you all with so many questions ()🙂.

Here are a few things I have been looking at since I posted last:

Sapphire 5770 V2 $166
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...E&promoid=1008

Been also looking at the western digital hard drives.
Can you guys recommend me one from this site?
http://www.canadacomputers.com/advan...=55a&filter_id=

Seems to have good prices but I don't know if Caviar Blue, Black or Green is right.

Also been looking at the Corsair 400W because there's a great deal going on but I am concerned about needing more power. How exactly do I calculate my power needs? I can see the CPU and GPU power requirements on the specs but what about all the other components of the system?

EDIT: I guess the BFG 550W is some no-name brand and avoid it?
 
Guys thanks so much for your help so much I promise this weekend I will put the order in and stop badgering you all with so many questions ()🙂.

Here are a few things I have been looking at since I posted last:

Sapphire 5770 V2 $166
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?s...E&promoid=1008

Been also looking at the western digital hard drives.
Can you guys recommend me one from this site?
http://www.canadacomputers.com/advan...=55a&filter_id=

Seems to have good prices but I don't know if Caviar Blue, Black or Green is right.

Also been looking at the Corsair 400W because there's a great deal going on but I am concerned about needing more power. How exactly do I calculate my power needs? I can see the CPU and GPU power requirements on the specs but what about all the other components of the system?

EDIT: I guess the BFG 550W is some no-name brand and avoid it?

Not sure what's wrong with that ASUS 5770?

For a WD system drive, only get a Black.

You're freaking out about the PSU. 400W is fine. If you google around, you can find the TDP for everything out.

BFG is a reputable brand.
 
Well I was doing some digging on the ASUS and found a lot of horror stories about the card running hot and crashing games. Kind of disappointing, I dunno what do you think?

Okay I will check around the internet for the wattage required. Thing is there's a Corsair 400W for $30 or a Corsair 450W for $45 or an Antec Basiq 430W for $30 or a Cooler Master 460W for $40.

Then I am thinking for Western Digital Caviar Black 500 Gb for $60.

EDIT: But if I plan to overclock the CPU and GPU later, add another hard drive and install an aftermarket heatsink/cooler, do you happen to know how much more wattage that will require?
 
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Yeah so far I'm having difficulty finding the power consumption for the RAM. Even the manufacturer website doesn't seem to list anything about it.
 
Well I was doing some digging on the ASUS and found a lot of horror stories about the card running hot and crashing games. Kind of disappointing, I dunno what do you think?

Okay I will check around the internet for the wattage required. Thing is there's a Corsair 400W for $30 or a Corsair 450W for $45 or an Antec Basiq 430W for $30 or a Cooler Master 460W for $40.

Then I am thinking for Western Digital Caviar Black 500 Gb for $60.

EDIT: But if I plan to overclock the CPU and GPU later, add another hard drive and install an aftermarket heatsink/cooler, do you happen to know how much more wattage that will require?

I don't put much stock in Internet horror stories because you never know the full story. Did the person stick the card into a case with no fans? Did they let it become clogged with dust? You never know.

You will be fine with the 400W. You're looking at about ~200W for the CPU and GPU, which are the most power-hungry components by far. I'd be surprised if everything else added up to another 50W. That leaves plenty of headroom for overclocking.

The Black is a good drive. I would much rather have that than a Seagate.

Bottom line: you're overthinking this and freaking yourself out for no reason.
 
Okay cool man, so I will switch over to the caviar black and the Asus 5770 card.

About the power supply would you take advantage of the BFB 550W $45 combo with the video card or just snag a $30 Corsair CX400W? Or grab one of the other ones I listed?
 
Okay cool man, so I will switch over to the caviar black and the Asus 5770 card.

About the power supply would you take advantage of the BFB 550W $45 combo with the video card or just snag a $30 Corsair CX400W? Or grab one of the other ones I listed?

It's all good. 🙂

Yeah, the combo is pretty good, so if you want to get that, go for it.
 
Thanks so much for all your help and sorry about how many questions I managed to generate. I'm gonna order the parts tomorrow morning. Cheers. 🙂
 
However, the BFG 550W power supply in the deal has only a 1 year warranty.

I'm open to suggestion on the power supply.

EDIT: Also, the BFG 550W supply isn't 80+ certified (it seems this is a big deal even though I don't know the specific technical implication of this).
* Anyone considering any BFG component should think long and hard about their customer support.
* "Certification" is basically a marketing ploy (in a "green" wrapper), that power supply manufacturers pay for.
Certification isn't done by an independent testing lab, the PS makers pay to have their units tested.

My 2 cents
 
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@Blain

Darn, well I already bought it so lets hope.

@mfenn

I built the rig yesterday and it is running great! I had a few issues with getting the cooler down and I had to reseat it twice, luckily I bought some MX-2 thermal paste. Then at one point I was picking the motherboard up by its heatsink and I heard a big snap as if the heatsink broke off a bit. Man I was so concerned that I dislodged the heatsink but everything seems to be working. Dunno... thanks for all your help.

Now to make the software run just as smooth for a long time 🙂
 
Recently noticed that when I was running a heavy graphics intensive mission of starcraft 2, I heard a medium speed ticking noise. I opened my case and put my ear next to the parts and it seems to be coming from the video card. Any ideas?
 
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