My buddy was RIPPED OFF legally!

[HappyFace]

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A buddy of mine bought several hand signed Michael Jordan prints on eBay that were later appraised as fakes. The description does not specifically state that the prints were autographed by MJ, only that they are "hand signed." Is it illegal for him to mislead his customers? It seems to me that legally he's off the hook on a technicality, as he never stated that an official autograph would be included, only that it was hand signed. By the way, the COAs look like something your average joe could have made for 20 cents at your local print shop. The certificate seals are blank.



Note: total $s spent = ~$180

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[guapo337]

thats rough dude.

 

[fr]

eBay has a policy against selling imitation merchandise. I've seen it applied to oakleys, but I'm not sure if or how autographs fit in.


How can an appraiser really tell if it's fake or not? Is his handwriting really that unique?

 

[dabuddha]

it does say theres a certificate of authenticity (well COA)
so you could maybe use that against him

 

[dethman]

for some reason that signature looks like "motherfvcker."

 

[Sundog]

OuCh!

 

[gopunk]

you could probably get him with some deceptive advertising thing....

 

[MrBond]

Originally posted by: dabuddha
it does say theres a certificate of authenticity (well COA)
so you could maybe use that against him

You can get a Certificate of Authenticity for anything. Some places will issue one for anything, for a price.

If it says it has a COA, that doesn't mean it's real.

I have an autographed Jorden photo somewhere in the pile of crap that is my closet. Not sure were it is anymore.

 

[AzNmAnJLH]

for something that expensive wouldn't it be smart to email him and ask if they are real signatures before placing bid?

 

[rh71]

<-- stays far far away from eBay and eBayers.

 

[rectifire]

Caveat Emptor when it comes to ebay auctions. Assume nothing that is not explicitly stated in the auction description.

This reminds me of the famous ebay auction where a lady bought a "Brand New Playstation 2 Box" and was angry to find out that she just plunked down hundreds of dollars for a cardboard box that used to contain a Playstation 2 gaming console. I don't think they ever came after the guy who sold it, since nowhere in the auction description did he say it would contain an actual Playstation 2. Obviously the lady didn't thoroughly read the description.

It is sad though that people resort to such deceptive sales tactics and half-truths to make a few bucks.
:disgust:

 

[TheShiz]

Originally posted by: rh71
<-- stays far far away from eBay and eBayers.

"You are not special. You are not a
beautiful or unique snowflake. You are
the same decaying organic matter as
everything else."

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: rectifire
Caveat Emptor when it comes to ebay auctions. Assume nothing that is not explicitly stated in the auction description.

This reminds me of the famous ebay auction where a lady bought a "Brand New Playstation 2 Box" and was angry to find out that she just plunked down hundreds of dollars for a cardboard box that used to contain a Playstation 2 gaming console. I don't think they ever came after the guy who sold it, since nowhere in the auction description did he say it would contain an actual Playstation 2. Obviously the lady didn't thoroughly read the description.

It is sad though that people resort to such deceptive sales tactics and half-truths to make a few bucks.
:disgust:

Bah... what about the people who disappear after accepting the money and never send the product... I know of someone who did that (not personally though... never met him in person). You may want them to send item first, but what if they want to see the money first? Nobody is right. Trust is not good enough on the Internet.

 

[Vic]

I would certainly leave Negative feedback....

 

[Spyro]

It is sad though that people resort to such deceptive sales tactics and half-truths to make a few bucks.

Its even sadder that they can get away with it.
:disgust:

 

[DanFungus]

Originally posted by: Spyro

It is sad though that people resort to such deceptive sales tactics and half-truths to make a few bucks.

Its even sadder that they can get away with it.
:disgust:

it's ever sadder that people don't read what the description is closely enough to realize that it'd just be a box. Sometimes it is very vague on what it is, but on the ones where it *could* be either, then, why not ask first...that always confuses me how some people don't think to ask first.

 

[Lithium381]

his feed back has like multiple ones from certiant people., probably is bozo friends getting his feedback up so he can scam people

 

[psteng19]

Yup, he had a bunch of older auctions with the same exact pic, and others of Lebron James.
And he's got a bunch listed now too!

Makes me wanna bid on it with my second ebay account and leave a negative for him :|

 

[ReiAyanami]

report him to ebay, unless his name happens to be michael jordan also, he is committing forgery

 

[CPA]

definitely looks like a case of caveat emptor on this one, though the COA does lead one to believe it is factual. Did your friend receive a copy of the COA?

Edit: Nevermind I reread your post and after reading it, caveat emptor would not apply in this case. It would be like me saying I am a Public Accountant with a License, which could lead someone to believe I have a certificate and therefore am a CPA, when in fact my license was nothing more than my driver's license. kinda.

btw, I am a CPA.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

That sucks.

 

[sohdahere]

dayum thats messed up.
I would bother the seller regardless for being such an a$$

 

[AnyMal]

On the subject of COA... If COA certifies the original signature of Michael Jordan, then your friend has a case. If COA states that either signature is an authentic reproduction or that the picture is indeed of MJ then he's SOL, because of the language on COA.

 

[gwlam12]

some guy got ripped off on a ps2 on ebay. the seller listed all the specs, and smack in the middle of the specs, he wrote "actual item is a photo of a ps2." buyer didnt see it

 

[her209]

Kinda of like those auction of empty boxes.