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Actually, only a couple of fish species are tank bred/raised, (most marine fish are pelagic spawners) BUT, MOST corals are propagated rather than wild collected. YES, the "rape of the reefs" continues, but of a bigger concern, is the use of cyanide in collecting fish, as it tends to kill huge patches of the reef as the collectors gas it, just to catch a couple of fish, most of which will die within a couple of months anyway.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: mooncancook
remind me of my saltwater thank I used to have. I had a shrimp (look more like a lobster but small like a shrimp) that digs around under the rocks. I bought a star fish into my tank and that shrimp cut it into pieces.

That's because shrimps are mean mofos. 😉

Pistol shrimp have one MEAN claw that can make such a noise it can stun its prey. Some believe the shockwave it creates can fracture the aquarium glass but I think that may be stretching things a bit.

Mantis Shrimp have broken tanks and split fingers wide open. Neat little buggers.

And they're devilishly smart as well.

The last time I was at the LFS they had a mantis for sale. I'd like to see him try to break the glass on my 105G show tank.
 
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Very cool. Does anyone have a link to a starter setup/info that they recommend? I have been wanting to do a salt water tank, but haven't done enough research.

For starters get a tank, lighting, circulation pumps, reef sand, and live/dead rock. I went with about 20% live and the rest dead rock. Set up the tank and let it cycle for a month. The critters in the live rock will populate to the dead rock, thus making it "live". During this time you can put snails and hermit craps in so they can pee in it to help get it going.
What I did next might not be the best thing to do but it worked for me. I went to the LFS (local fish store) and bought the cheapest corals I could find. They had 3 little mushrooms in a cup for $5 and a condi Anemone for $10. I through them in the tank and let them do their thing for a month. The mushrooms divided and grew like crazy. They started out about the size of a dime, and I have about 15-20 now, with a few of them being about the size of a CD.

My live rock has taken off and apparently it had some Zoa colonies still intact and those have bloomed and grew in nicely. I also have a few nice sized feather dusters that grew from the live rock. Now that I knew stuff could live in there I added my fish and skrimps. I have 2 tank raised Clowns, a Yellow Watchman Goby, and sand sifting goby ( I haven't seen him in a while) and 3 peppermint shrimp. Everyone has been doing good and the only animals I've lost are snails due to hermits killing them for their shells.

Equipment wise, all I have is a Maxi-jet 1200 with a rotating head on it to create a non direct flow, and Sea-Clone Skimmer (I know it's cheap, but it can be made to work pretty good with a few minor mods), a Maxi-jet 900 for more flow, 65W CF light fixture with 1 acintic and 10k light. This is all in a 40G breeder tank and has been stable for a year.

I need to kill off all the fish in the 105 that I let my GF take over so she could have a planted tank, and make it my salt tank.
 
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: RaduqueAlso, that video sucks. Need more closeup op!

that's gratitude for ya.... 🙁

It's a cool video, and I'm sure that animal is impressive to watch while eating, but the camera's not close enough to catch the action 🙁
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Very cool. Does anyone have a link to a starter setup/info that they recommend? I have been wanting to do a salt water tank, but haven't done enough research.
For starters get a tank, lighting, circulation pumps, reef sand, and live/dead rock. I went with about 20% live and the rest dead rock. Set up the tank and let it cycle for a month. The critters in the live rock will populate to the dead rock, thus making it "live". During this time you can put snails and hermit craps in so they can pee in it to help get it going.
Good advice for the most part. Only caveats I have would be cycling/curing time for the rock. If you get live rock from a good place that's already cured it, and you use only that rock, you can start putting together the rest of the tank faster. Otherwise, you'll be waiting 4-8 weeks for it to properly cure anyway. If that's the case, might as well do what Lebowski did and save some $$ by using dead rock and letting it colonize. Bacterial wise that takes about the same time. Anyway, once your rock has cycled, you can begin adding any other support equipment you'll need like skimmers.

Really, you need to research what style of tank you want, that'll tell you what to pick up. Soft corals or hard corals or no corals; large fish or small fish; what fish will eat what other kind of livestock; what kind of room the fish you want need (you can keep Nemo in a 15-20 gallon. Dory needs a 110+ as a mature fish). Live Aquaria is your best friend for a LOT of this kind of information. Most importantly, you have to decided what you can afford, and a maximum you can run over budget, because you WILL go over budget. And believe people who tell you, buy the good stuff up front, no matter the initial pain to the wallet or how ridiculous the price looks. Buying one expensive piece of equipment once is cheaper than buying 3 cheaper versions first.
The mushrooms divided and grew like crazy. They started out about the size of a dime, and I have about 15-20 now, with a few of them being about the size of a CD.
Hence what I said earlier to spidey07. Mushrooms are the easiest corals to grow and propagate... most of the time. Though, like other soft corals, they're low(er) flow, and see what I said above about determining what you want beforehand. I could never keep those kinds in my tank now, it's all set up for high-flow stony corals.
I have 2 tank raised Clowns, a Yellow Watchman Goby, and sand sifting goby ( I haven't seen him in a while) and 3 peppermint shrimp.
For your sand sifting goby, I'd check behind the tank. He likely went carpet surfing some time ago. I lost 3 of them that way myself. I had to modify my canopy so it's enclosed entirely to prevent that from happening. It worked, though. I've had my current one for going on a year.
I need to kill off all the fish in the 105 that I let my GF take over so she could have a planted tank, and make it my salt tank.
Why kill them off? What's wrong with trading them in at the LFS? There isn't a place around where I live that won't give you decent trade on livestock. Most places love it, especially if they know you, since they know the fish are tank raised already and usually disease free. With what you likely have in a 105, you can put some really decent bank towards what you'd need to run a proper marine tank.

Like the skimmer it'll force you to get! SeaClone is an example of, really, the bottom of the barrel. I think they make only the 2 models, neither of which is rated for a 105G. Modded it might not be so bad on what you're running, and if it's pulling out stuff, well, that's what's most important. Still, you'll probably be shocked when you use something better, especially if you get more fish, which is certainly expected. Probably the most affordable middle of the road skimmer I could recommend for your needs and functional setup is the Coralife Superskimmer line. If you add a sump, I'd say look into ASM as well. The Coralifes have the advantage of hanging on the back of a tank, so you can avoid having to get a sump that way. I've used both during my trials of skimmers, and would put coralife's at the lower end of the middle of the road skimmers and ASM at the higher end. Both are a little finicky, but if you can mod a SeaClone, you'll be fine. If you want hard corals, though, you'll seriously need to be running top of the line like Deltec, Euroreef, or H&S to be getting proper growth out of them. Whatever you plan on, check reef central. There's like 10 reviews of practically every skimmer on the market there from people who are way bigger freaks about tanks than I.

Just a final suggestion for the upgrade, do some serious research into lights, especially in regards to what kinds of corals you want to get. Zoas and mushrooms don't need much light, other kinds of softies vary. That Anemone, though, will probably be much happier with around 10 watts per gallon. I've seen them survive at lower light intensity, but they tend to like more.
 
Well, just to give this thread a bit of a bump (because it is a cool video, etc) and apologize for the hijacking.

I finally managed to get pics of my current setup taken and posted.

Remember what I said about buying stuff right the first time? Here's the list of what I still have left from my initial tank.

1. 1 digital thermometer from Petsmart w/original battery ($9, cheapest piece of equipment you're likely to have, and they're lab-grade accurate. I was able to verify that myself)
2. 1 chunk live rock
3. 1 ocellaris clown fish. (You can just see her at the middle of the tank near the top.)

And this is what I currently have. A closer shot of the main tank is here and this is all the equipment I've acquired to run it over the years. I also took some shots of the livestock. Here're my clownfish, Omen and Moen and their rose bubble tip anemone. The original is Omen, she's the big one nuzzling the anemone. Finally, because it's amusing, my tuxedo urchin molesting my fighting conch.
 
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Nice rose in that pic...one of my FAVORITES...

close-up
My sentiments, too. That's why I risked adding one of those guys to an SPS dominated tank. As long as you can find the right spot for them to adhere to, they're fine.

The last bubble tip I had started off just a bit larger than that, then got frikken huge. I wish I had a pic before I traded him back, he literally dominated that entire side of that 30G tank. I heard he went to a clownfish breeder, though, so I'm happy with that.
 
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