Originally posted by: Rubycon
Originally posted by: mooncancook
remind me of my saltwater thank I used to have. I had a shrimp (look more like a lobster but small like a shrimp) that digs around under the rocks. I bought a star fish into my tank and that shrimp cut it into pieces.
That's because shrimps are mean mofos.
Pistol shrimp have one MEAN claw that can make such a noise it can stun its prey. Some believe the shockwave it creates can fracture the aquarium glass but I think that may be stretching things a bit.
Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
The skimmer is your next vital purchase. Do NOT go cheap on that! I have a Deltec (this one) that while looks expensive is worth every penny. I went through several different, cheaper, makes before, and I WISH I had just spent the money up front. It's a set and forget (and clean), just fantastic quality piece of hardware. You can look into other makes, but Deltec stuff is the best bang for the buck, IMO.
Lighting and circulation pumps depend on what you want to stalk it with. Cheapest tank is just an all fish tank. That way you can have angel fish and other beautiful ones that will nip at/eat corals and such, and you only have to light them enough to see well. At the other end of the spectrum is a high flow, stony coral (SPS) tank demands either metal halide or T5 lighting, and good pumps (possibly a wave box), in addition to various reactors to control calcium and other chemicals in the tank. Variants with soft coals fall in between the two somewhere depending again on how elaborate you want to go.
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
The skimmer is your next vital purchase. Do NOT go cheap on that! I have a Deltec (this one) that while looks expensive is worth every penny. I went through several different, cheaper, makes before, and I WISH I had just spent the money up front. It's a set and forget (and clean), just fantastic quality piece of hardware. You can look into other makes, but Deltec stuff is the best bang for the buck, IMO.
Lighting and circulation pumps depend on what you want to stalk it with. Cheapest tank is just an all fish tank. That way you can have angel fish and other beautiful ones that will nip at/eat corals and such, and you only have to light them enough to see well. At the other end of the spectrum is a high flow, stony coral (SPS) tank demands either metal halide or T5 lighting, and good pumps (possibly a wave box), in addition to various reactors to control calcium and other chemicals in the tank. Variants with soft coals fall in between the two somewhere depending again on how elaborate you want to go.
Deltec AP600, that's what I have on my 90. I went through three other skimmers before I bought the Deltec (ASM, AquaC, Octopus), would have saved money just buying the Deltec from the start. I'll probably sell this AP600 and get an Eheim based Deltec or an Eheim based H&S when I setup my bigger tank.
My new tank will be just LPS and softies though. If I ever do SPS again it will be an SPS ONLY tank, I'm tired of trying to do mixed tanks. Plus I want to cut back the energy use and go with T5's or lower wattage halide (I have 2x250 now).
Eheim + Deltec :heart:. I think I'll go AP701 before the end of the year myself just because my tank is rather heavily stocked and I hate cleaning the cup every 3 days or so. Just need some more of that pesky money!Originally posted by: trmiv
I'll probably sell this AP600 and get an Eheim based Deltec or an Eheim based H&S when I setup my bigger tank.
Go T5s, better light distribution I've found and it still allows for higher intensity if you want clams and stuff. Halide tends to give you a more focused spot unless you have it high enough (a problem for me as I have to run with a canopy due to the goby [3 of the little bastards jumped previous setups]) which if you're running sufficiently deep gives the light penetration issues at lower wattages. Of course that's not as much an issue with LPS and softies. Really, the biggest trade off I've found with T5 is coral colouration, halides tend to give a richer, deeper colour. Or it could just be the bulb configuration I'm using.My new tank will be just LPS and softies though. If I ever do SPS again it will be an SPS ONLY tank, I'm tired of trying to do mixed tanks. Plus I want to cut back the energy use and go with T5's or lower wattage halide (I have 2x250 now).
Sounds like it should be very nice! Be sure to post pictures.Originally posted by: spidey07
I've got a tank I'm getting ready to start up. A 75 gallon cube. It will be SPS dominated but there will be some LPS just because I like them so much.
Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Very cool. Does anyone have a link to a starter setup/info that they recommend? I have been wanting to do a salt water tank, but haven't done enough research.
Originally posted by: BoomerD
I dunno about RC...just too dammed many flamers there to suit me Ted. While it IS the biggest, and has some of the best in the hobby, I'd recommend Reef Sanctuary for a beginner...NO ONE flames ANYONE there...and everyone is always happy to help the newbies get started right...
Talking about lights, whacha think about PFO's Solaris? I LIKE the idea of using LED's, and so far, they LOOK good...
For a good discussion on T-5's...
http://blogs.frags.org/member.php?uid=2561
some nice teaser pics:
http://blogs.frags.org/showblog.php?bid=1054
Originally posted by: trmiv
Wuffsunie, yea I'm considering T5's. I like them, but the only thing that might steer me away from them is the lack of the halide shimmer. I love the way halides look when they shimmer the water, you just can't get that from T5'. I might go with 175w halides on my next tank with Lumenarc reflectors.
Originally posted by: roguerower
My friend has a saltwater tank and I never asked him what it took, but maybe you guys could explain the basics if it wasn't too much of a hassle?
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: trmiv
Wuffsunie, yea I'm considering T5's. I like them, but the only thing that might steer me away from them is the lack of the halide shimmer. I love the way halides look when they shimmer the water, you just can't get that from T5'. I might go with 175w halides on my next tank with Lumenarc reflectors.
I will only use metal halides. That's just me though.
I want the freaking sun, and I want it in my house. As an avid diver and reefkeeper you wouldn't belive just how deep the sun actually penetrates on live reefs - especially in the 20-35 foot depth. It's their life blood.
Originally posted by: shabby
Has it ever done this to you?
Well, if you've got money to burnOriginally posted by: BoomerD
How about a Bubble King?
Yeah, I know what you mean there. I love that effect myself. Alas, I can't get that any more on my current tank.Originally posted by: trmiv
Wuffsunie, yea I'm considering T5's. I like them, but the only thing that might steer me away from them is the lack of the halide shimmer. I love the way halides look when they shimmer the water, you just can't get that from T5
An interesting setup you might look into would be the Oceanic BioCube. Complete equipment self containment. I've heard interesting things about them and would kind of like to try one myself, but that darned peskey money thing... Anyway, you can get standard ones and even modded ones. Good for a more simplistic start.Originally posted by: JACKHAMMER
Very cool. Does anyone have a link to a starter setup/info that they recommend? I have been wanting to do a salt water tank, but haven't done enough research.
Yeah, plus they have an almost infinite lifespan and very low power usage. Just they're almost triple the cost of the other current system, and even then they're still like first or second generation products. Probably in 10, maybe 5 years, they'll be a reliable replacement for T5, maybe even halide. For now, it's just not worth the expense, IMO.Originally posted by: BoomerD
Talking about lights, whacha think about PFO's Solaris? I LIKE the idea of using LED's, and so far, they LOOK good...
Originally posted by: Raduque
That brittlestar is a really cool creature. I've always loved the way reeftanks look, but I know I could never keep one. I have enough trouble with my small 20g FW Barb tank.
Originally posted by: RaduqueAlso, that video sucks. Need more closeup op!
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: RaduqueAlso, that video sucks. Need more closeup op!
that's gratitude for ya....![]()
Originally posted by: Homerboy
nice tank, but I prefer to conserve the reefs
