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My bowling average is ridiculous right now

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My best game was a 186. I remember I had 2 turkey's (3 strikes in a row) in that game. 😀

usually I hover around the 140s, but I only bowl a couple times a year, so I still enjoy it whenever I go.
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: JEDI
i only bowl 130.

any tips on getting higher?

and how did u get to bowl like that?
1. Practice
2. Practice
3. Get a professionally fitted ball as recommended by your local pro shop operator who knows your game.

Yeah I had a guy hook me up with a Nuke bowling ball.....was like 170$ ball....it was 16 lbs.... I started averaging 187 in league.
I was a total nood and getting very good. Then one day I woke up and went to get my ball. It had a huge crack all the way around it.
everyone was amazed at how much hook I had with tha ball. I even bowled between my legs in style with it for 1 game and scored 229.
the guy at the bowling alley gave me a ticket for 6 free games because he thought it was amazing....lol

Now without my ball using house balls I am lucky to hit 150. so i dont bowl anymore....lol

 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: JEDI
i only bowl 130.

any tips on getting higher?

and how did u get to bowl like that?
1. Practice
2. Practice
3. Get a professionally fitted ball as recommended by your local pro shop operator who knows your game.

How many games a week do you practice?

and is there a leveling off point? ie: practice 10 games/week will rise your score by 50 points, but practicing 20 games/week will only rise your score 10 points more
 
Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: JEDI
i only bowl 130.

any tips on getting higher?

and how did u get to bowl like that?
1. Practice
2. Practice
3. Get a professionally fitted ball as recommended by your local pro shop operator who knows your game.

How many games a week do you practice?

and is there a leveling off point? ie: practice 10 games/week will rise your score by 50 points, but practicing 20 games/week will only rise your score 10 points more
I actually haven't practiced in over a year, other than the 2-3 frames you can throw when they turn the lanes on right before league starts. I have bowled 1 league night a year for the last 3 seasons....so I throw 3 games a week.
When I was single and lived near the bowling center about 12 yrs ago, I pretty much went up there every night. Didn't always bowl, but my best friend at the time was the pro shop operator, and he was single, and we went to Hooter's a lot. 🙂
I did practice quite a bit.....and as long as you're not practicing the wrong things, you will see improvement. Don't know that I could put a number on how many pins you'd gain per game practiced.....that really depends on your ability.
I suppose there is a limit for everyone....not everyone is PBA material, but I will say that there are a lot of people who are that will never know because they never tried.

 
I suppose there is a limit for everyone....not everyone is PBA material, but I will say that there are a lot of people who are that will never know because they never tried.

What is PBA materail? What do those guys average over a season?
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I suppose there is a limit for everyone....not everyone is PBA material, but I will say that there are a lot of people who are that will never know because they never tried.

What is PBA materail? What do those guys average over a season?
Hard to compare, because the PBA uses a much tougher oiling pattern (usually) than your typical league shot, but I believe the highest average ever carried on the PBA tour for a season was around 220. It was 219 for a lot of years, but seems like someone finally broke it a few years ago.
 
I bowl like a 100 if I'm lucky...usually an 80...and I'm athletic too...I just always throw it down and there's 1 pin that is still up and i always miss it
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I suppose there is a limit for everyone....not everyone is PBA material, but I will say that there are a lot of people who are that will never know because they never tried.

What is PBA materail? What do those guys average over a season?

in the PBA it really depends on a variety of things. When you go to a local bowling alley, they probably just oil the lanes in a standard house oil pattern. Pros face a variety of oil patterns as well as wood or synthetic lanes. Some lane conditions result in really high scores while other conditions make it tough for even the pros to bowl a high game. It's their ability to adjust to the lanes and stuff that makes them so good. I'm sure if most of the pros just went to a local bowling alley and bowled, they'd rack up some sick scores. Those scores that Pacfanweb are awesome and professional material but I don't know the lane conditions in which he bowled on.
 
By oiling pattern, are you saying on the lanes? Maybe I'm bowling ignorant, but 220 just seems low for a pro. What would a PBA caliber guy shoot at a "non" pro bowling lane/alley?
 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I suppose there is a limit for everyone....not everyone is PBA material, but I will say that there are a lot of people who are that will never know because they never tried.

What is PBA materail? What do those guys average over a season?
Hard to compare, because the PBA uses a much tougher oiling pattern (usually) than your typical league shot, but I believe the highest average ever carried on the PBA tour for a season was around 220. It was 219 for a lot of years, but seems like someone finally broke it a few years ago.

wow so the oil and suface stuff (excuse my bowling knowledge) makes that much of a difference?

What is your average over the past few years roughly?

Thanks for clearing that ninjitsu.

I hope to average 100pts 😛 but don't bowl much if ever know a days. When I did bowl maybe once a fortnight or when I was on holiday I did get 175pts though 😀

Koing

 
in the PBA it really depends on a variety of things. When you go to a local bowling alley, they probably just oil the lanes in a standard house oil pattern. Pros face a variety of oil patterns as well as wood or synthetic lanes. Some lane conditions result in really high scores while other conditions make it tough for even the pros to bowl a high game. It's their ability to adjust to the lanes and stuff that makes them so good. I'm sure if most of the pros just went to a local bowling alley and bowled, they'd rack up some sick scores. Those scores that Pacfanweb are awesome and professional material but I don't know the lane conditions in which he bowled on.

Interesting. Very interesting. I never knew that they mixed up the lane conditions that much and it made as much of an impact. Thanks for the info.
 
Originally posted by: nitsuj3580
Originally posted by: vi_edit
I suppose there is a limit for everyone....not everyone is PBA material, but I will say that there are a lot of people who are that will never know because they never tried.

What is PBA materail? What do those guys average over a season?

in the PBA it really depends on a variety of things. When you go to a local bowling alley, they probably just oil the lanes in a standard house oil pattern. Pros face a variety of oil patterns as well as wood or synthetic lanes. Some lane conditions result in really high scores while other conditions make it tough for even the pros to bowl a high game. It's their ability to adjust to the lanes and stuff that makes them so good. I'm sure if most of the pros just went to a local bowling alley and bowled, they'd rack up some sick scores. Those scores that Pacfanweb are awesome and professional material but I don't know the lane conditions in which he bowled on.
There are several regional PBA members in my league, including one who has won a regional tourney, and over the season they will shoot similar scores to mine. It's a pretty easy league shot, but for some reason, I see some excellent bowlers struggling with it.

 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
By oiling pattern, are you saying on the lanes? Maybe I'm bowling ignorant, but 220 just seems low for a pro. What would a PBA caliber guy shoot at a "non" pro bowling lane/alley?
I would expect a touring pro to average maybe 230 for a season at the house I'm bowling.

The PBA also occasionally puts down an easy shot...that's when you see the telecast and it took a 240 average to make the finals.
Other weeks it may only take 203.
 
Originally posted by: Cyberian
Originally posted by: hdeck
i hardly ever break 100 =\

then again i bowl less than once a year
I hear you on that!
My bowling scores are usually about the same as my golf scores.

😛

HA if my golf scores were as low as my bowling scores then even I could beat Tiger. 😛
 
Originally posted by: SyahM
at least your much better than me. My bowling average is around 120/game.

i average less than 100 😉

good nights for me are when i break 100, and it isn't often. my highlight was when i got two strikes in a row and finished at 126. i took a picture of it and put it up on my website for all my friends to see. =D
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
in the PBA it really depends on a variety of things. When you go to a local bowling alley, they probably just oil the lanes in a standard house oil pattern. Pros face a variety of oil patterns as well as wood or synthetic lanes. Some lane conditions result in really high scores while other conditions make it tough for even the pros to bowl a high game. It's their ability to adjust to the lanes and stuff that makes them so good. I'm sure if most of the pros just went to a local bowling alley and bowled, they'd rack up some sick scores. Those scores that Pacfanweb are awesome and professional material but I don't know the lane conditions in which he bowled on.

Interesting. Very interesting. I never knew that they mixed up the lane conditions that much and it made as much of an impact. Thanks for the info.
Here's an example: The PBA Southern Region had a tourney last August in my town. I couldn't bowl in it because of work, but went later in the day to watch because Walter Ray Williams Jr, the greatest bowler EVER was going to be there. (he lives in the southern region).
They had a deep inside shot (which I love) and some of the big boys could not hit it. I watched Walter Ray shoot a 222, and follow that with a 147. He didn't even cash in the tourney. I watched the Southern Region Rookie of the Year throw 2 gutter balls in the same game.
Then I watched one of my fellow league guys, whom I average more than easily make a check.
Since the PBA tour was bought by former Microsoft execs a few years ago, the actual National tour runs from fall to spring. So if the touring pros want to bowl tournaments during the rest of the year, they have to bowl the regionals. Makes it pretty cool to potentially line up next to a dude you see on TV all the time.



 
watch this ATers...

pacfanweb likes to play deep so the house lane condition is heavy oil from board 10 to board 10 and mopped out to board 5, length of oil is probably 32 - 35 ft. I'm guessing pacfanweb hooks the ball rather well and most of his errors are inside target. Those 10 pins he left on the 289 games are from adrenaline; his approach (feet) was too fast, he threw his ball at or inside target and he splatted or 'ringed' a 10 pin. He plays Ebonite equipment; though better from years past, it still retains an over/under quality. pacfanweb has better than average ball speed to control this stuff. My last guess is his preferred target line: Putting the ball down at board 26, hitting somewhere around board 17 at the arrows (15ft) and letting the lane conditioning do the rest. Imagine a bowling lane like a minature golf hole where the hole is straight and both sides have arching hills to roll the ball back towards the center of the fairway. You can hit the ball straight; it goes towards the hole. You can hit the ball left up on the side of the hill and it will curve towards the hole. That's enough trolling for me...

 
Originally posted by: daclayman
watch this ATers...

pacfanweb likes to play deep so the house lane condition is heavy oil from board 10 to board 10 and mopped out to board 5, length of oil is probably 32 - 35 ft. I'm guessing pacfanweb hooks the ball rather well and most of his errors are inside target. Those 10 pins he left on the 289 games are from adrenaline; his approach (feet) was too fast, he threw his ball at or inside target and he splatted or 'ringed' a 10 pin. He plays Ebonite equipment; though better from years past, it still retains an over/under quality. pacfanweb has better than average ball speed to control this stuff. My last guess is his preferred target line: Putting the ball down at board 26, hitting somewhere around board 17 at the arrows (15ft) and letting the lane conditioning do the rest. Imagine a bowling lane like a minature golf hole where the hole is straight and both sides have arching hills to roll the ball back towards the center of the fairway. You can hit the ball straight; it goes towards the hole. You can hit the ball left up on the side of the hill and it will curve towards the hole. That's enough trolling for me...
That wouldn't be a bad guess if you were talking about last year's shot.
This year, I'm setting the ball down about 15 and swinging it out to about 7. Basically down and in, with a bit of a belly. You can miss to the right a little, but outside of 4 is out of bounds. You can miss to the inside about 4 boards, IF, when you miss, you don't have quite as much finger in the ball. Otherwise, it'll cross over or go through the beak.
I own 1 Ebonite ball, other than my spare ball. The first 289 was w/ the Ebonite, the 2nd was with a Brunswick Zone, which is what I really prefer.
My speed on the 10 pin wasn't the problem, the Ebonite ball tend to quit carrying around the end of the 1st game to the start of the 2nd. I also left 2 10's and a 7-10 in the pocket to start the 2nd. Played around with speed and revs, finally switched to the Zone and a slightly straighter shot and the carry returned.
There is certainly a "funnel" effect to the house oiling pattern, like nearly every other center in the country.
As far as how much I hook the ball, the shot you described is a pretty big hook. I can and do like to play like that, but it doesn't work this year, so I had to relearn how to bowl more or less outside with more speed and less hook. I have huge hands and don't really have to rip the ball to get enough revs, so that lets me concentrate more on accuracy than playing the big hook does.
Not a bad guess, though.
 
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