My benches so far. Adding GTX480 SLI benches.

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Genx87

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Heh clearly after seeing these benchmarks at resolutions most of us play the 480 is a complete failure lol :D

In a couple of those tests the 480's avg FPS as as high as the 5870s max.
 

zerocool84

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Heh clearly after seeing these benchmarks at resolutions most of us play the 480 is a complete failure lol :D

In a couple of those tests the 480's avg FPS as as high as the 5870s max.

The only reason why people are saying it's a failure is cus it was over promised, too late, and too much of an energy hog for not much more performance.
 

Dark4ng3l

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The only reason why people are saying it's a failure is cus it was over promised, too late, and too much of an energy hog for not much more performance.

And the fact that some people in this forum who had access to the card last week were hyping it like it was the second coming of the 9700pro.
 

Genx87

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The only reason why people are saying it's a failure is cus it was over promised, too late, and too much of an energy hog for not much more performance.

I dont know, at these resolutions the 480 is stomping the 5870 according to Keys. In some of these games it is by over 35%.

/shrug
 

zerocool84

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I dont know, at these resolutions the 480 is stomping the 5870 according to Keys. In some of these games it is by over 35%.

/shrug

Well yes but that's now how it is in general. Most of us were hoping for a much bigger performance jump as that's what was being promised and hyped as.
 

SlowSpyder

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I dont know, at these resolutions the 480 is stomping the 5870 according to Keys. In some of these games it is by over 35%.

/shrug

In that large sum/average of all benches thread, I thought the GTX480 was about 15% faster when everything was said and done. No one is arguing that it's not a fast part. I think people just felt it should have been more impressive than a 15% faster on average part given how much after AMD's part it was launched.
 

McCartney

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Well yes but that's now how it is in general. Most of us were hoping for a much bigger performance jump as that's what was being promised and hyped as.

This is a significant amount of performance, as we have long passed the days of linear performance increases with each product release.
 
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Patrick Wolf

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Good benching, but I wouldn't being playing Metro w/ max settings when the min. is dropping into the teens, and avgs. below 30. That's why important to also bench at more realistic settings. I also don't believe ATI has optimized their driver set for this game yet.

Battleforge, Stalker, and AVP are fair game, but personally I wouldn't play them at those framerates either. Unigine's not a game, so who cares.

And why are a bunch of unbenched games listed?
 
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happy medium

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The thing that impresses me the most about the Gtx is its minimum fps are much better, other then that, the card just needs to be a little faster. Mabe better drivers will give it another good boost, who knows?
 

Keysplayr

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How are those Power/Heat and Noise benchies working out there Keys?:whiste:

Sorry Will. I know you're trying to take the focus of performance away and replace the seed of thought with Power/Heat and Noise levels, and that's really freaking cool and all, but we know the card uses more power, we know the card runs hotter, we know that it is louder.
What else do you need to know? I guess you are not interested in performance, well, that's really freaking cool as well. And it's a good thing, because that is what I was benching. Performance. Especially when things get cranked up.

Be well.
 

Keysplayr

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Look if you want to point out any claim that I made that is false I am more than willing to debate that with you. Please don't take me personally I know you are nothing like wreckage or some of the other more biased people on either side.

No need get mad at me it's just that as a mod people are more inclined to respect what you say and the fact that you get free stuff well ya know... But hey nothing wrong with that. I'd take a GTX480 for free just the same as anyone else on this forum would and I would never expect you to forgo that privilege. I just want to make sure that nvidia get exactly 0 return on that $ invested(or negative if possible).

It's not anything like that. I suppose I should be used to infatuations and obsessive behaviors by now.
 

blanketyblank

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How about some overclocking numbers. I know it's not a retail sample, but every little bit of info helps.
The main problem I have with just 15% is it's well within overclock range so unless the Fermi's on average can OC a good deal more it doesn't justify the extra cost.
 

Keysplayr

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How about some overclocking numbers. I know it's not a retail sample, but every little bit of info helps.
The main problem I have with just 15% is it's well within overclock range so unless the Fermi's on average can OC a good deal more it doesn't justify the extra cost.

Meh, dude. I'm sure the 5870 can o/c a bit more than a 480 releatively speaking. I'm really not into doing these all over again at o/c'd settings. It has become more cumbersome with my time constraints lately. If I get the chance, I will throw out some o/c numbers at my convenience.
 

konakona

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yeah, it would be nice if you could provide how much 24/7 safe/comfortable overclock you could expect from 480 to differentiate yourself from the big guys. The fact that card scales well with clocks is the best thing I heard about fermi thusfar.
 

Dark4ng3l

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Okay so no power/heat/noise numbers and no O/C numbers. So basically selecting only whatever makes the 480 look the best relative to the 5870. Hmmmmm just throwing it out there.
 

Keysplayr

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Okay so no power/heat/noise numbers and no O/C numbers. So basically selecting only whatever makes the 480 look the best relative to the 5870. Hmmmmm just throwing it out there.

If all I'm benching for is performance, and that happens to show the GTX480 in it's best light, then I guess you're correct. That is of course, if it wasn't for the fact that I said just a few posts back.. well, I'll just quote myself:

"but we know the card uses more power, we know the card runs hotter, we know that it is louder."

I know you saw that. You see and salivate at every syllable I post. BUT the question remains, did you absorb it. If you did, you would realize this as an admission of heat power and noise levels of the GTX480 and would have not felt compulsed to post what I have quoted you here. If I post something inaccurate, feel free to correct me dude. But don't post just to annoy me.
 

Rubycon

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What if you used a program to slow down the fan?
How much higher do the temps go?
Most GPU will run up to 120C before problems arise unless they are o/c or the vendor chose to raise clocks out the door for competitive edge and reduce the safety net, so to speak.
 

Dark4ng3l

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No I just felt that you are trying to minimize the negative aspects and trying to scream your lungs out that it's good for XYZ. I'm just trying to balance things out so that if someone reads whatever you said that they don't get a wrong idea and somehow think it's an awesome earth shattering product like what you said it would be last week.

Well maybe it's not earth shattering but earth melting is almost the same thing right?
 

konakona

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What if you used a program to slow down the fan?
How much higher do the temps go?
Most GPU will run up to 120C before problems arise unless they are o/c or the vendor chose to raise clocks out the door for competitive edge and reduce the safety net, so to speak.

HD3xx0 series were hot as hell too, didn't bother me much. Noise does bother me though, and the fact that 480 needs that jet turbine of a cooler to keep the card running in mid 90s is a rather troubling IMO. I see where you are getting at though, maybe one could turn the fan down quite a bit and get away with just 10 degrees higher temps (assuming that's still safe)?
 

blanketyblank

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HD3xx0 series were hot as hell too, didn't bother me much. Noise does bother me though, and the fact that 480 needs that jet turbine of a cooler to keep the card running in mid 90s is a rather troubling IMO. I see where you are getting at though, maybe one could turn the fan down quite a bit and get away with just 10 degrees higher temps (assuming that's still safe)?

Look on the bright side though. If they released bad drivers that screwed up the cooling fan you would know immediately with these cards. With a g92 people could miss it and fry their card. Besides since XFX is out people really should just get the EVGA watercooled cards anyways. I wouldn't trust a brand without a lifetime warranty on something that runs this hot.
 

Dark4ng3l

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Look on the bright side though. If they released bad drivers that screwed up the cooling fan you would know immediately with these cards. With a g92 people could miss it and fry their card. Besides since XFX is out people really should just get the EVGA watercooled cards anyways. I wouldn't trust a brand without a lifetime warranty on something that runs this hot.

I would get the air cooled version. That way when it inevitably fails they end up sending you a next gen card for free.
 

ronnn

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Always need to see min max and avg. Tells a better story than just averages as most sites do.

Nicest, but probably too much work is the hardocp way. A graph showing the frame rate at any given time. One low minimum on the intro screen would mean little, but several drops at the best times can be deadly.