My Asus 4200 is grinding

[Schadenfroh]

ok, last night some strange noises started coming out of my computer, i thought it my be the cheap fan that i bought for my CPU. I have left my PC on without shutting it down for about a month now and so lastnight i finally shut it off. Well, i open it up and disconnect the fans one by one and all are good. Then i realize that the grinding is coming form y v9280td. i take it out and take a q-tip to it and clean out every spec of dust out of it. put it back in, it still turns but its grinding. im scared to leave it on at night and day when im not at home now. It currently has a VERY small fan on it that is sorta integrated into the HS. It still has 2 years left on its warrenty, but i kinda like playing battlefield vietnam with it, so i really dont want to spend the time it takes to RMA. Questions are

1. Dont fans make that sound right before they die?
2. I dont have thermal paste, can i just use rubber bands to attach a 80mm fan over the current small fan?

 

[MichaelZ]

unplug the stock fan or just unscrew it. place a 80mm fan on the top and attach 1 to the bottom (use ur imagination) and that'll be just fine.

i had the same problem with an asus ti4200 video suite model. bastard thing's fan keeps crapping out. RMA'ed 3 times because the stock fan refused to not die. 😕 eventually, i bought a 3rd party cooler. but that's all in the past. thank god. once the RMA took 6 friggin weeks. 6 weeks without my 4200 was hell. i'm still angry about that 1.

edit: unscrew the fan only, u'll want to keep the heatsink there.

 

[Schadenfroh]

done, i just left the fan on there and disconnected it, i put the 80mm fan ontop of the current cooling system using 2 thin rubber bands and 1 thick one, works fine, just hope they dont snap from the heat. 3dmark did not lock up, saw some artifacts on the horse but i think that was because of these beta det 60s im running

 

[Dman877]

That horse has artifacts whether your card is stable or not, I have seen artifacts on that horse on every card I've run 2k1 on.

 

[Pete]

It's the fan. That noise happened to two of my Radeon 9100 fans; both times I wrote Visiontek and they shipped me out a new one. My 9100 fan is easy to replace myself, though, without removing the heatsink. If your fan is integrated to the heatsink, you may have to ship the card out for repair. Call Asus and see what they'll do.

 

[MichaelZ]

my 4200 video suite has a temperature diode. when i did the same thing it showed that the temps for core and ram was below average when using dual 80mm fans. i think you'll be fine.

also mine one has the fan integrated on the heatsink which covers the ram as well. it cannot be replaced unless i shipped the whole card back which i did 3 times and kept getting the same thing

this time i just removed the whole thing and put my own ram sinks and core cooler on. the original heatsink and fan i'll keep for later when i want to sell the thing.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
done, i just left the fan on there and disconnected it, i put the 80mm fan ontop of the current cooling system using 2 thin rubber bands and 1 thick one, works fine, just hope they dont snap from the heat. 3dmark did not lock up, saw some artifacts on the horse but i think that was because of these beta det 60s im running

I'd replace those rubber bands with zip ties. Eventually all rubber bands dry out and snap and my guess is being inside a computer case under more heat than normal would only quicken the process.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
done, i just left the fan on there and disconnected it, i put the 80mm fan ontop of the current cooling system using 2 thin rubber bands and 1 thick one, works fine, just hope they dont snap from the heat. 3dmark did not lock up, saw some artifacts on the horse but i think that was because of these beta det 60s im running

I'd replace those rubber bands with zip ties. Eventually all rubber bands dry out and snap and my guess is being inside a computer case under more heat than normal would only quicken the process.

good idea, got a box of them downstairs

 

[Schadenfroh]

btw, should i position the fan slightly above the HS, because the center part of the fan (motor) seems to rest on top of it, would i get better results elevating it to where the HS is more exposed to the fanblades rather than the motor or does it matter?

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: i82lazyboy
unplug the stock fan or just unscrew it. place a 80mm fan on the top and attach 1 to the bottom (use ur imagination) and that'll be just fine.

i had the same problem with an asus ti4200 video suite model. bastard thing's fan keeps crapping out. RMA'ed 3 times because the stock fan refused to not die. 😕 eventually, i bought a 3rd party cooler. but that's all in the past. thank god. once the RMA took 6 friggin weeks. 6 weeks without my 4200 was hell. i'm still angry about that 1.

edit: unscrew the fan only, u'll want to keep the heatsink there.

should have gotten a gainward... they next day air one to you 🙂

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: i82lazyboy
unplug the stock fan or just unscrew it. place a 80mm fan on the top and attach 1 to the bottom (use ur imagination) and that'll be just fine.

i had the same problem with an asus ti4200 video suite model. bastard thing's fan keeps crapping out. RMA'ed 3 times because the stock fan refused to not die. 😕 eventually, i bought a 3rd party cooler. but that's all in the past. thank god. once the RMA took 6 friggin weeks. 6 weeks without my 4200 was hell. i'm still angry about that 1.

edit: unscrew the fan only, u'll want to keep the heatsink there.

should have gotten a gainward... they next day air one to you 🙂

wouldnt matter, i would be RMAing it to New Egg, like the last time

 

[jonesthewine]

Same thing happened to my PNY ti4200...I scrapped the stock HSF and used arctic alumina adhesive to cement a retail AMD aluminum heatsink to the GPU, which I run passive as the front mounted panaflo pushes enough air over it to keep it cool & stable. Quiter computer = better computer.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: jonesthewine
Same thing happened to my PNY ti4200...I scrapped the stock HSF and used arctic alumina adhesive to cement a retail AMD aluminum heatsink to the GPU, which I run passive as the front mounted panaflo pushes enough air over it to keep it cool & stable. Quiter computer = better computer.

how much weight can those things hold? could i possibly glue a massive thermalright copper HS on the sucker? or would that tear the chip out of its socket?

 

[MichaelZ]

i dont think thats a good idea.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

the tnt 2 im running in the poor mans rig i have downstairs made that noise....no worries a swift kick to the tower sorted that one out 🙂.............still makes it from time to time had it 5 years or so, so what can u expect. its when the bearings go on the fan and it starts rubbing against its self......bit of lubricant usually helps to

 

[jonesthewine]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: jonesthewine
Same thing happened to my PNY ti4200...I scrapped the stock HSF and used arctic alumina adhesive to cement a retail AMD aluminum heatsink to the GPU, which I run passive as the front mounted panaflo pushes enough air over it to keep it cool & stable. Quiter computer = better computer.

how much weight can those things hold? could i possibly glue a massive thermalright copper HS on the sucker? or would that tear the chip out of its socket?

I don't know how much they can hold, but for a while i had a 245 gram aluminum HS cemented to the shim and GPU of my 9800 Pro, no ill effects. Ijust removed it in order to install arctic cooling vga silencer,though. I have another of the same 245 gram aluminum HS cemented to the northbridge on an ASUS MB, and it is not suffering any ill effects, though these are stationary computers ( no lugging to LAN parties).

Those copper HS can get to 500-800 grams, so I'm not sure if it would do as well as my relatively lightweight 245 gram models.