My AMD 1,4GHz is running at 69-74 degrees C, is that normal?

[Frolic]

Just bought a 1,4 GHz AMD Athlon(Thunderbird), and it's operating temperature is somewhere between 69 and 74 degrees Celsius. Is that normal? My system seems stable anyway.

Thanks
Frolic

 

[Su1c1da1]

wow u mean ur chip didn't burnt yet? well it could be that the sensor is too close to the chip? who knows. My old system runs at 50 sumthing.. and like 60 full load.

 

[rogue1979]

You are way to hot! 60c under full load should be the max you would want to run any AMD cpu, I prefer to stay under 50c.

 

[Frolic]

Hmm, maybe my cooling is insufficient, bought an EKL PAPST CPU-fan w/ball bearing for Socket A up to 1,4 GHz, or XP1900+. Will one of those cupper things for AMD CPUs you put between CPU and heat sink help?

Btw, the program I'm using to monitor the temperature is software that came with my mobo ASUS A7V133. Anybody know if those kinds of programs usually are accurate?

 

[pillage2001]

Originally posted by: Frolic
Hmm, maybe my cooling is insufficient, bought an EKL PAPST CPU-fan w/ball bearing for Socket A up to 1,4 GHz, or XP1900+. Will one of those cupper things for AMD CPUs you put between CPU and heat sink help?

Btw, the program I'm using to monitor the temperature is software that came with my mobo ASUS A7V133. Anybody know if those kinds of programs usually are accurate?

try looking for mbm5. Motherboard Monitor. It's pretty accurate and everyone I know is using it. As for the copper stuff you put on the CPU, I think you're referring to the copper shim. It does not help you cool the chip but it makes sure you won't crack the chip by applying extensive pressure onto it.

Get a Alpha 8045 and you're all set. Are there any case fans in your casing?? You might want to improve the air flow in the case too. That will greatly help you.

 

[Frolic]

Gonna loook for Mbm5 and do something about my heatsink too.

Thanks for your advice
Frolic

 

[rocketbubba]

Also check the vcore. My 1.4 operates in the low to mid-40's after adding case fans and tweaking the vcore. BTW, I'm just using an average Tailsol hsf. Good luck!

 

[TurtleMan]

my xp2100 operate at the same temp as u, since im using a stock fan from the xp1800..that's probalby why
lower my vcore votage by 0.1 and sysytem running 60 degree idle..
Mbm5 doesn't seem to work for me...... hmm..

 

[rogue1979]

The socket A Asus motherboards are notorious for giving cpu temp readings 10c higher than other manufacturers. Maybe you are not as hot as you think.

 

[Frolic]

Very interesting info! Thanks!

I changed fan on my heat sink and now the cpu is running steady at 66 degrees C (haven?t tested at full load gaming yet).

Some thoughts about vcore settings:
Haven?t checked my vcore, the bios hardware monitor example in the manual says vcore voltage 1,52 V (it?s for a 100MHz bus freq cpu of unknown speed). At what voltage should I be able to run my 1,4GHz Athlon Thunderbird? Is it different depending on the specific cpu I got, something I?ll have to try out stepping down the voltage as far as I can?
Can I break something doing this, as I understand you can break something going up in voltage at o/c-ing, but not the other way?
And Is it worth trying, how much does it affect the cpu temperature?

 

[lRageATMl]

i have an ASUS board, with teh 1.4Ghz thinderbird (running at 1.547 with 1.81V).

my case temp, 26C, 29C under load.
my cpu temp, 41C, 46-7C under load.

something definatly is up.

 

[rocketbubba]

Others on the forum may know better than I about the consequences of lowering the vcore, but the only problem I'm aware of is instability. When I installed the 1.4 T-bird, my temps were running in the mid-50's, which I thought was too high. My mobo's (Iwill KK266 - I love this board) vcore was set on Auto and gave a reading of 1.84v. I stepped the vcore down gradually and settled at a setting of 1.65v, which gave a reading of 1.74v. Together with adding a 92mm case fan (on the bottom - I used a part from my old Compaq to prop the case up a little in the front), dropping the vcore 0.10v dropped my cpu temps roughly 10 C with no drop in performance or stability. Hope that helps. Good luck!

 

[Frolic]

Thanks a lot!
I've got to check my vcore voltage and see what can be done. Just checked cpu temp in bios, says 59 degrees c when my Asus pc prob software tells me 66 degrees.. just like you guys say -can't fully trust the readings..
But I feel I'm on the right track now, thanks.

 

[shadware]

Even at those higher temps, it shouldn't be causing a problem I wouldn't think. Here shows that t-birds should be able to run stable up to 95C. Mine runs at about 60C under full load (from previous tests when I had Windows 98 SE and WinSystem 98). Even if my mobo (shuttle ak31a) sensors are off, I feel safe. I use an aluminum heatsink, which doesn't cool my CPU as much as it could, but its nice not to weigh down my mobo for moving it and for my constant lanning (and soon to come CPL, w00t). Here is a comparison of the heat output. Well, I dont understand exactly what it is comparing, but the higher the number, the hotter. The 1.4ghz t-bird is at the top (which helps explain why I don't need a heater in the winter), but the Thunderbird core also has a bigger surface area then the Palimino processors (XP), and even bigger then the Thoroughbred (XP 2200+), so you sometimes need a better cooler even though it actualy isn't running hotter. I will soon be upgrading my CPU probably, but probably only to 1800+ because those are real cheap. Anyways, I tend to ramble and try to show off what little knowledge I posess, so I will shutup now. I don't know if this helped or explained anything, but here you go.

 

[greg]

A few things...

1. check you heatsink. My temps went from 50C max to 55C and it was simply that the top of the heatsink was clogged with dust.
2. Feel the heatsink when it reads that temp., it should be stinkin hot. If not, could be an error in the thermo.