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My Abit IP35 -Pro Bearlake Review

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Well so far so good, I shut off all the CPU functions and set my Vcore to 1.5075 and kicked up my MCH to 1.33 and so far its running. The big test is CPU mark's multitasker which has crashed my PC every time I've run it, with the exception of stock numbers. I couldnt get the flasher to work, so im trying to find a way to get an .img file from the 98se files, which I have sitting on my desktop. Also, that big of a jump in CPU, from 3.0 to 3.2 brought my CPU temp up almost 10 degrees higher to 40C idle. So im gonna cross my fingers and hope my computer doesnt die under the load.
 
Well here's a nice update, ran PCmark05 with 8370 PCmarks and a CPU score of 10371. Everything is running very stably and it seems to be running well. Is 51C too hot for being under full load? If not, should i try and push it to 3.4?
 
Originally posted by: randomocity
Well here's a nice update, ran PCmark05 with 8370 PCmarks and a CPU score of 10371. Everything is running very stably and it seems to be running well. Is 51C too hot for being under full load? If not, should i try and push it to 3.4?
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no full load at 51c with a Q6600 is quite normal.
 
ok, going to update bios now. wish me luck!

51c under full load is awesome considering that i'm at a similar temp under full load on an e6750 at 3.48. That TR120 UX is a great cooler!
 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
ok, going to update bios now. wish me luck!

51c under full load is awesome considering that i'm at a similar temp under full load on an e6750 at 3.48. That TR120 UX is a great cooler!
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make sure that you flash it as I mentioned above A:AWDFLASH.EXE M629B_11.B04 /py /sy /WB /cd /cp /cc /CKS

change M629B_11.B04 to the name of the bios file. Or you can edit Abit's autoexec to include the switches that are not included.
 
ok, very annoying. would not attempt to post at previously stable 8x435 at 1.48vcore. i have to work all day tomorrow and then make a 3hr drive to go see family and somehow be energetic enough to hang out/drink all night, so I"m setting cpu to 8x400 @ all default and going to bed. Will re-commence overclocking sun when I'm back in town.
 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
ok, very annoying. would not attempt to post at previously stable 8x435 at 1.48vcore. i have to work all day tomorrow and then make a 3hr drive to go see family and somehow be energetic enough to hang out/drink all night, so I"m setting cpu to 8x400 @ all default and going to bed. Will re-commence overclocking sun when I'm back in town.
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did you flash it using the switches I mentioned then shut down the PC, switch off the PSU, and flip the CMOS reset switch for 10sec before powering it up again? This will make sure you flash the bootblock and reset everything and discharge the mobo completely.

It's just one little thing that I like to do and it was recommended to me by DFI a long time ago. (reset everything and completely discharge the board after bios flash).

Also I always find it a good idea to never flash the board when overclocked and setting my memory at the default speed/timing/voltage. I have seen people over at XS recommending this so I do it. Whether it affects anything I have no idea.

if worst comes to worst you could always flash it back to the older bios you were using (assuming you saved that bios to a file first).
 
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: randomocity
Right now I'm having an issue overclocking my Q6600. I'm getting about 3.0Ghz set at x8 and 1.4275V but I notice that under load the multiplier does jump to x9 giving me about 3.2 Ghz. The only problem that I'm having now is heat and lockups. I idle around 33 at the 3.0 mark but if I try adjusting my FSB to 400 I also run into issues with heat and frequent lockups under load. Could the lockups be because my Vcore isnt high enough?

I believe when i changed the FSB to 400 my Vcore was turned up to 1.4975, is this not enough?
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Turn off everything under CPU Features which is under advanced BIOS features. Make sure every option is disabled. See if this helps, also do you know if your CPU is a B3 or G0? If it's a B3 it will get hotter more than likely. Also set your MCH voltage higher.

If none of this works you can flash to the latest beta BIOS here http://fugger.netfirms.com/11B04.zip

When you flash the BIOS from DOS using awdflash use this sequence A:AWDFLASH.EXE M629B_11.B04 /py /sy /WB /cd /cp /cc /CKS

That will overwrite the bootblock as well and is tested to increase system performance.

edit: you don't need a floppy to flash the BIOS. If you have a USB Flash Drive you can format it as a DOS startup disk and run awdflash.exe from there. Instructions here http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...=2340844&postcount=897


Another note. Different memory ratios change the strap the board runs on. Info on that here http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...=2344891&postcount=986
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are you sure to use m629b_11.b04 instead of .bin? the abit web page says to type A:\>awdflash AB9_14.BIN /py /sn /cd /cp /cc /cks /R . Now, I know that's not for ip35 pro, but I would assume that you just change the bios file to the m629b_11.bin file instead.


 
whatever the BIOS file is named. I do not rename it, but type it exactly as it is so if you call it 1234abcd.bin then type that.

But you should not use ABIT's switches...use what I posted because it will save the file, then flash the bootblock also.
 
ok, I did. My bios file was .bin instead of .b04, otherwise it went exactly right. Thanks! Now I will try all over again on oc and see what happens...
 
still getting odd max fsb results. at 7x460 got same old problem that I used to think of as "fsb hole": ie, would not power up at all, blue leds would flash for 1/2 sec or less and then nothing. changed mem mult from 1:1 to 5:6 and it booted fine. I'm pretty sure that's not a cpu problem... could be memory I guess but it's not even getting to a point where it would check mem so I can't see how it's anything other than mobo. I'm going to see if I can get above 468 now.
 
NEW final should be out now, if not please pm me your e-mail adress and I will forward it on to you.

cheers

gilgamesh
 
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Question about this board...I'll have one in my hands on tueday afternoon but my question is audio related. How does this board's audio fair in Vista vs a XFI? Obviously XFI has terrible drivers and support, but how is CPU utilization (probably not even a worry these days with dual core CPUs at 3+ghz)? How is the quality? Any issues?

Thanks for any help and info guys.
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Sorry I havent tested the osund under Vista as of yet, however I do not like the sound codec on this board at all, as Mentioned in my review the soundcard is basically the same as on the IN932MAX but with NO DTS output, i fealt pretty let down by this aspect.

gilgamesh
 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I can't get computer to power on and even attempt to post at over 440 fsb with my ip35 pro. I would say that it might be airflow but it literally takes no time at all. The fans barely have time to move before power shuts off. my chip doesn't seem to be doing too well either as I needed 1.47 v to get to 8x430. I should have gotten a Q6600...
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The secret of getting past even 420FSB never mind 440 fsb (by the way your doing quite well to get that far) in ANY X9 chip is to down the cpu to X8 and to up the vtt to 1.23

PLEASE see my settings post and use these as a guide.

gilgamesh
 
Originally posted by: gilgamesh1
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Question about this board...I'll have one in my hands on tueday afternoon but my question is audio related. How does this board's audio fair in Vista vs a XFI? Obviously XFI has terrible drivers and support, but how is CPU utilization (probably not even a worry these days with dual core CPUs at 3+ghz)? How is the quality? Any issues?

Thanks for any help and info guys.
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Sorry I havent tested the osund under Vista as of yet, however I do not like the sound codec on this board at all, as Mentioned in my review the soundcard is basically the same as on the IN932MAX but with NO DTS output, i fealt pretty let down by this aspect.

gilgamesh
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already got this board and just slapped my XFI in there.
 
Originally posted by: gilgamesh1
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I can't get computer to power on and even attempt to post at over 440 fsb with my ip35 pro. I would say that it might be airflow but it literally takes no time at all. The fans barely have time to move before power shuts off. my chip doesn't seem to be doing too well either as I needed 1.47 v to get to 8x430. I should have gotten a Q6600...
Click to expand...

The secret of getting past even 420FSB never mind 440 fsb (by the way your doing quite well to get that far) in ANY X9 chip is to down the cpu to X8 and to up the vtt to 1.23

PLEASE see my settings post and use these as a guide.

gilgamesh
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my cpu is standard at 8x333. well, it's supposed to be, but for some reason it defaults to 8x340. whatever, that's still way too slow...

I don't feel that 468 is good considering the plethora of posters who show 500+. I'm already at 1.31 vtt, do you think I should dial it back down to 1.23?

 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: gilgamesh1
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I can't get computer to power on and even attempt to post at over 440 fsb with my ip35 pro. I would say that it might be airflow but it literally takes no time at all. The fans barely have time to move before power shuts off. my chip doesn't seem to be doing too well either as I needed 1.47 v to get to 8x430. I should have gotten a Q6600...
Click to expand...

The secret of getting past even 420FSB never mind 440 fsb (by the way your doing quite well to get that far) in ANY X9 chip is to down the cpu to X8 and to up the vtt to 1.23

PLEASE see my settings post and use these as a guide.

gilgamesh
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my cpu is standard at 8x333. well, it's supposed to be, but for some reason it defaults to 8x340. whatever, that's still way too slow...

I don't feel that 468 is good considering the plethora of posters who show 500+. I'm already at 1.31 vtt, do you think I should dial it back down to 1.23?
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500+ IS for CORE 2 DUOS, trust me on a core 2 quad 6600 460fsb is very very good
I struggled for days trying to get to as close as possbile for 500fsb, and i have thecream of the crop wc system!

gilgamesh
 
Originally posted by: Nlight95
Will you be testing both dual & quad cores on air?

And how about 4x1GB?
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Yes to all, our standard test bed is 4x1GB under Vista 64 now, our scores and overclocking will not be as high as XP results but I promise you that if you are stable under Vista 64 then it is pretty much a walk in the park for the same settings under XP.
 
Originally posted by: gilgamesh1
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
Originally posted by: gilgamesh1
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
I can't get computer to power on and even attempt to post at over 440 fsb with my ip35 pro. I would say that it might be airflow but it literally takes no time at all. The fans barely have time to move before power shuts off. my chip doesn't seem to be doing too well either as I needed 1.47 v to get to 8x430. I should have gotten a Q6600...
Click to expand...

The secret of getting past even 420FSB never mind 440 fsb (by the way your doing quite well to get that far) in ANY X9 chip is to down the cpu to X8 and to up the vtt to 1.23

PLEASE see my settings post and use these as a guide.

gilgamesh
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my cpu is standard at 8x333. well, it's supposed to be, but for some reason it defaults to 8x340. whatever, that's still way too slow...

I don't feel that 468 is good considering the plethora of posters who show 500+. I'm already at 1.31 vtt, do you think I should dial it back down to 1.23?
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500+ IS for CORE 2 DUOS, trust me on a core 2 quad 6600 460fsb is very very good
I struggled for days trying to get to as close as possbile for 500fsb, and i have thecream of the crop wc system!

gilgamesh
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He is on an E6750 which is dual core. And just a little fyi: I don't see many people at all breaking 500+Mhz FSB at 8x multi...gotta drop to 6x and even then it may not. 468Mhz is a good FSB. You're looking for too much. You could always give that PC to me and buy new stuff that may get 500Mhz 😀
 
Originally posted by: Gary Key
This is BIOS we will be using in our review - B12 IP35-Pro
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Any idea what changes are made from B11?

Also has anyone else tried this BIOS yet? I'm unsure if I should...kinda want to though.


edit: I tried it but there doesn't seem to be any cosmetic differences. Some benchmarks show an improvement in memory bandwidth and latency by a small margin.
 
not worth the hassle for me in that case after the crap I went through upgrading to b11. maybe I'll get over 468 now, however...hopefully...I think I'll get it...damn I need a life...
 
Originally posted by: bryanW1995
not worth the hassle for me in that case after the crap I went through upgrading to b11. maybe I'll get over 468 now, however...hopefully...I think I'll get it...damn I need a life...
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It could just be, oh I don't know...your CPU isn't the "dream, uber, OMG, ultimate overclocker" you are thinking.
 
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