My 5 year old just got sent to the Dean's office for saying "I'll kill you"

SunnyD

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My wife got a phone call a bit ago - I guess my son, in kindergarten, at 5 years old, just got sent to the Dean's office for "threatening to kill a classmate".

The context of the whole thing was rather unclear, but after some questioning, it turns out that my son does not even know what that figure of speech means. He just said it because he heard it before, apparently from mommy.

Now seriously, kindergarten, 5 year old... why the hell was this not handled in the classroom by the teacher? Especially if the context was playing (which at this point the whole context is still uncertain).

It's like the educators are more worried about Columbine, abuse allegations, and mental health than they are actually educating in both intelligence and social behavior.

Home schooling is beginning to look more attractive every day now.

Updated note - YES!!! Mommy and I do not condone such language, we do know that it's not something to use in casual conversation (and is not used as such)! For god's sake, we are not trying to raise the next famous serial killer! The point that I am trying to make is that shouldn't this have been something that could have easily been taken care of in the classroom by the teacher instead of overreacting and playing the Columbine card?!

Updated some more - About a half hour ago my wife IM's me and told me that my son is now harbored in his room. Guess what for? Yep - he said it to mommy, since his behavior this afternoon (not related to the school incident) was not acceptable, to which end she had commented that if he didn't start behaving she would keep him from going on the class field trip tomorrow and from attending class pictures (aka: stay home tomorrow). Well, thanks to the school blowing it up out of proportion now, he knows of a nice tool to get some more attention. Thanks a lot to our fine halfassed educational institution.

Updated yet again - On the way home from work (which my wife picked me up) we discussed the issue further. Apparently, my son's story changed when he got home from school and mommy asked about it. When asked where he heard the phrase being used, he replied that he originally heard it in school, and not infact from mommy. We probed a little further figuring it was from the kids that he waits for the bus with (supervised) since they always play tag, wrestle and other little-kid games (and some like to thug it). He replied, "No mommy, I heard it at school, not from the bus stop or you."

There is a lot more to this issue than a case of bad parenting. I spent a lot of the afternoon figuring out when/where/what context my wife and/or I could possibly use that phrase at home, and I came up with none. The closest my wife came is that when the kids are hasseling her, she occasionally uses the phrase, "You're killin me kid." I guess that might be the culprit, but it seems strange for a 5 year old to be able to twist the context of that to something like, "I'll kill you" without understanding what the phrase means in the first place.
 

xeno2060

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Damn times have changed, when I was in school that's what the teachers said to us.:)
 

DannyBoy

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Coming soon to a movie theatre near you, "The Serial Killers of Tomorrow", starring "SunnyDs' 5 year old Son!"
 

Semidevil

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when I was in elementary and middle school(early to mid 90's) we said it for everything....

"what! you got a higher test grade then me? i'll kill you!"
"shut up man, i'll kill you"
"I hate him, I"ll kill him..."

man, these days....
 

Goosemaster

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Barge i nto the office:

WTF Motherfvker! You take my Motherfvking kid out of his Motherfvking class just so you can Motherfvking annoy me like this Motherfver? Don't you think I have more important things to do today, Motherfvker?

I swear, if this Motherfvking thing ever Motherfvking happens again, I WILL KILL YOU, BITCH.


Problem solved:cool:
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
My wife got a phone call a bit ago - I guess my son, in kindergarten, at 5 years old, just got sent to the Dean's office for "threatening to kill a classmate".

The context of the whole thing was rather unclear, but after some questioning, it turns out that my son does not even know what that figure of speech means. He just said it because he heard it before, apparently from mommy.

Now seriously, kindergarten, 5 year old... why the hell was this not handled in the classroom by the teacher? Especially if the context was playing (which at this point the whole context is still uncertain).

It's like the educators are more worried about Columbine, abuse allegations, and mental health than they are actually educating in both intelligence and social behavior.

Home schooling is beginning to look more attractive every day now.

Who was his Mom threatening to kill? Daddy? :laugh:
 

Czar

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you as a parent are an educator, your job is to teach him right from wrong
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: GhettoFob
why did mommy say I'll kill you? :Q:confused:

He told the councellor that he heard my wife say it, or heard her tell it to him. Again, figuratively speaking, even if it was said, it's not like we go around making death threats to people. Context is the whole issue here and unfortunately, nobody seems to know exactly what the context was.

I choose to baselessly blame cartoons for this sort of behavior... too bad Johnnie Cochran is dead.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: GhettoFob
why did mommy say I'll kill you? :Q:confused:

"You little bastard, I told you to clean up your room!! Oh, don't give me that look or you're gonna get it! You think I'm playin', I'LL KILL YOU!"
 

DaveSimmons

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it turns out that my son does not even know what that figure of speech means.
Do you have a cat or dog? Maybe you can show him.

He just said it because he heard it before, apparently from mommy.
Mommies shouldn't teach their kids to threaten to kill. Do or not do, there is no "try."
 

Zanix

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Originally posted by: Czar
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you as a parent are an educator, your job is to teach him right from wrong

cause teachers don't have enough authority over kids.
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: Czar
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you as a parent are an educator, your job is to teach him right from wrong

And that in absolutely no way falls as a burden of his educators during the 7 hours he is at school? Which is all but mandated by the state for him to be at (unless we choose to homeschool)?
 

sygyzy

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Home schooling does look attractive. Look into it, for everyone's sake.