My 4770k delid video (IHS removal)

[Boulard83]

Video @ http://infodupat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=488

@ 4.4ghz 1.3vcore
Load temp with Small FFT was 85+?c
Now i get ~75?c ( with NH1 paste )

** Waiting som liquid pro and ultra TIM for better results **

 

[Pandamonia]

So it doesnt clock any higher than it did before?

 

[Boulard83]

Didnt had time to test clocks.

I also wait for more TIM to knock the door and do more TIM test before going "All in".

I already gained 10°c with the noctua paste.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Nice

 

[2is]

Did you reduce the gap and put the lid back on with NH1 or did you go direct die?

 

[Boulard83]

Kept the IHS.

 

[Boulard83]

There is the base line for my futur TIM testing and a possible lapping if the IHS is not 100% flat.

 

[bgt]

If you see this: pathetic you have to delid your CPU to get better temps.
Its beyond being completely ridicilous!!!!! You buy an expensive CPU and then have to risc demolishing it to get better temps. This totally puts me off buying such a deliberately handicapped cpuD:

 

[2is]

If you see this: pathetic you have to delid your CPU to get better temps.
Its beyond being completely ridicilous!!!!! You buy an expensive CPU and then have to risc demolishing it to get better temps. This totally puts me off buying such a deliberately handicapped cpuD:

It would put me off too if there was a better alternative, but there isn't so it doesn't and Intel knows this.

 

[crashtech]

If I followed the video, I would probably end up with deep cuts in my fingers because that's how I am with blades, I guess. My rule for working with blades/ sharp points goes like this:

Assume objects in the path of the blade/point WILL be cut/pierced. Put no part of your body or anything that you don't want damaged in the path of the blade/point.

Following this rule, I would likely use a block of wood or cutting board to support the CPU, along with some needle nose pliers with short lengths of vacuum hose slid over the jaws to grasp the CPU without damage. This keeps fingers away from the action.

 

[2is]

If I followed the video, I would probably end up with deep cuts in my fingers because that's how I am with blades, I guess. My rule for working with blades/ sharp points goes like this:

Assume objects in the path of the blade/point WILL be cut/pierced. Put no part of your body or anything that you don't want damaged in the path of the blade/point.

Following this rule, I would likely use a block of wood or cutting board to support the CPU, along with some needle nose pliers with short lengths of vacuum hose slid over the jaws to grasp the CPU without damage. This keeps fingers away from the action.

I was thinking the same thing watching the video. Made me cringe.

 

[Boulard83]

If you see this: pathetic you have to delid your CPU to get better temps.
Its beyond being completely ridicilous!!!!! You buy an expensive CPU and then have to risc demolishing it to get better temps. This totally puts me off buying such a deliberately handicapped cpuD:

It would put me off too if there was a better alternative, but there isn't so it doesn't and Intel knows this.

I simply like to thinker with my hardware, NM the risk ... You dont "NEED" to do this, these chip will run 4.5ghz+ no problem with good cooling.

If I followed the video, I would probably end up with deep cuts in my fingers because that's how I am with blades, I guess. My rule for working with blades/ sharp points goes like this:

Assume objects in the path of the blade/point WILL be cut/pierced. Put no part of your body or anything that you don't want damaged in the path of the blade/point.

Following this rule, I would likely use a block of wood or cutting board to support the CPU, along with some needle nose pliers with short lengths of vacuum hose slid over the jaws to grasp the CPU without damage. This keeps fingers away from the action.

Then don try this It's better for your safety. For me, everything when pretty nice and smooth.

 

[crashtech]

My input was to enhance the safety of the procedure, not to tell you or anyone else not to attempt it. A safe way of securing the CPU without holding it in one's hand is the best way, if possible. The procedure I outlined uses a tool most people have, and a few inches of hose is very cheap and easy to obtain.

Just for reference, I work with razor blades on a daily basis. Pointing them at your fingers while pushing is just trouble waiting to happen, please believe me.

Thanks for the video, though. It's nice to see that the adhesive is not extremely tough to cut through.

 

[Boulard83]

My input was to enhance the safety of the procedure, not to tell you or anyone else not to attempt it. A safe way of securing the CPU without holding it in one's hand is the best way, if possible. The procedure I outlined uses a tool most people have, and a few inches of hose is very cheap and easy to obtain.

Just for reference, I work with razor blades on a daily basis. Pointing them at your fingers while pushing is just trouble waiting to happen, please believe me.

Thanks for the video, though. It's nice to see that the adhesive is not extremely tough to cut through.

Thanks for the input !

I was'nt that carefull and nothing bad happened, at last !

 

[oceanside]

OP, be sure to report you results when you have clp/clu applied. I would be interested in the improvement in temps and OC headroom (if any) - thx

 

[tential]

It would put me off too if there was a better alternative, but there isn't so it doesn't and Intel knows this.

Yup this. If there was a better alternative I'd use it. But there isn't. So intel all the way. Considering very few applications benefit from OCing anyway, I haven't even felt the need to OC. Boot times, and application smoothness has been out of this world for me. I haven't used a desktop intel processor or a SSD yet so I was blown away. Can't wait to get a Haswell notebook with SSD now.

 

[JimmiG]

Very tempting. Small FFT's sends my 4770K into the mid-80's range too. However I'm not in the mood to pay $350 for a new CPU...

If it only buys me 100-200 MHz before it sends me into another voltage/thermal wall, it's not really worth it. That's <5% performance improvement, assuming perfect scaling. Would have to be at least ~400 MHz to be worth it - ie. a chip that would do 4.4 does 4.8 de-lidded, and those that already did 4.5-4.6+ GHz should be close to or over 5 GHz..

 

[UaVaj]

do share the MHz improvement of stock vs delid.

 

[Sheep221]

My input was to enhance the safety of the procedure, not to tell you or anyone else not to attempt it. A safe way of securing the CPU without holding it in one's hand is the best way, if possible. The procedure I outlined uses a tool most people have, and a few inches of hose is very cheap and easy to obtain.

Just for reference, I work with razor blades on a daily basis. Pointing them at your fingers while pushing is just trouble waiting to happen, please believe me.

Thanks for the video, though. It's nice to see that the adhesive is not extremely tough to cut through.

I noticed that too, the entire video looked like he could cut into his hands at any time.

 

[Boulard83]

Very tempting. Small FFT's sends my 4770K into the mid-80's range too. However I'm not in the mood to pay $350 for a new CPU...

If it only buys me 100-200 MHz before it sends me into another voltage/thermal wall, it's not really worth it. That's <5% performance improvement, assuming perfect scaling. Would have to be at least ~400 MHz to be worth it - ie. a chip that would do 4.4 does 4.8 de-lidded, and those that already did 4.5-4.6+ GHz should be close to or over 5 GHz..

do share the MHz improvement of stock vs delid.

Be sure, i will share the result with CLP/U

I noticed that too, the entire video looked like he could cut into his hands at any time.

Maybe, but it did'nt happen I do alot of handycraft so i'm used to work with my hand. I'm an automotive technicien.

 

[EliteRetard]

Me, I didn't care about your fingers...but worried about handling it bare handed with no grounded wrist strap. ESD is a bitch. :awe:

 

[Boulard83]

Me, I didn't care about your fingers...but worried about handling it bare handed with no grounded wrist strap. ESD is a bitch. :awe:

Grounded myself before starting. I never ever used any of these wrist strap and i never ever had component to fail on me.

 

[KingstonU]

Thanks for the video. Also waiting to see if this brings any extra overclocking headroom.

 

[Boulard83]

Thanks for the video. Also waiting to see if this brings any extra overclocking headroom.

Il will update soon, the liquid pro and ultra TIM are somewhere in between europe and canada.

 

[know of fence]

This is no slant against your video, but I wish there was more of a political message against Intel's strategy from us, the consumers in the trenches.

For the second generation Intel decides to devalue their own product, at the cost of terrible thermals and resulting higher power consumption, completely opposite to what they preach.

From under a tinfoil hat it might even look like intel wants to bake/fry their chips to make us have to upgrade in 4 years or so, especially since miniaturisation is about to come to a halt, and there is less relative profit in more silicon and more cores.

Yet the delidders seem to be perfectly content and happy, now having an ability to make a difference, a purpose, something to do with this magical black box of technology. I can respect the experiment, but really this position is kind of of conflicted.
I should have not trusted Anand's "Just wait for Haswell" hype, should have bought Vishera when it was released.

I honestly thought we'd get proper solder after the Ivy Bridge debacle, it would seem we need more of an outcry, boycott and more de-lidding coverage. Even though the best way to de-lid, is not to buy A CPU like that in the first place.