My 4 year old daughter just said something interesting

[PrinceofWands]

Yup, my daughter is going through the same things, for the same reasons. I've started her re-education, and it seems to be going ok. If my ex says anything I'll inform her we'll let the courts make a judgment about it and that should shut her up.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: Amused
It's not trolling to tell you you're overreacting and that your outrage was OBVIOUSLY about who she said it about more than that she said it.

You can deny it all you want now to save face, but your first post made it obvious.

Answers you don't like or don't agree with are NOT trolling. If you don't want to be exposed to opinions you don't agree with, stop posting.

Funny I read his first post and didn't get that.

I just reread it and I still didn't get that. You can't even come close to reading between the lines and deduce that it is primarily over the fact it was sad about Obama.

I also didn't get that. I'd have talked to the daughter and reamed the ex.

Yep..

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Amused
It's not trolling to tell you you're overreacting and that your outrage was OBVIOUSLY about who she said it about more than that she said it.

You can deny it all you want now to save face, but your first post made it obvious.

Answers you don't like or don't agree with are NOT trolling. If you don't want to be exposed to opinions you don't agree with, stop posting.

Funny I read his first post and didn't get that.

I just reread it and I still didn't get that. You can't even come close to reading between the lines and deduce that it is primarily over the fact it was sad about Obama.

This, Amused. Looks like your bias is showing.

Please quote from the OP where his "irst post made it obvious" or ADMIT that your blazing bias is contaminating this thread.

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Amused
He's outraged because he disagrees with the opinion, not the outburst itself.

You have a point.

Really, Mosh? Amused has a point? Then perhaps YOU can regale us with quotes from the OP that somehow underpin this asshole bias you and Amused so directly exhibit.

Don't change the subject or misdirect or attack me, just outline where in the OP you come to your opinion that the OP is "outraged because he disagrees with the opinion, not the outburst itself."

Or . . . you could woman up and admit Amused has ZERO evidence for his claim, and that you, uh, misspoke. 😉

[/quote]

She lives with her mother most of the time (born again Christian). I purposefully do not talk politics with her mother, but I could definitely see her and her family having views like that.

He obviously disagrees with both their religion and politics.

That's what I got. Sorry you couldn't figure it out.

Someone else got it too:

"Not a surprising response if she's spending time with her born-again mother."

More than a few people in the thread pointed out his stereotyping of the mother and her parents.

And BIAS??? What fucking bias, Perk? I don't support Bush nor do I think it's okay for a kid to say that. But to freak out and make a huge case about it is fucking ridiculous. Kids are CRUEL. They have no filter and say insensitive things ALL THE FUCKING TIME. You just do your best along the way to help them develop that filter as best you can.

So shut it, Perk. I know you live to shoot me down, but seriously...

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

You might not want to admit this on a public forum.

SS is probably right outside your door as we speak.

Haha, seriously kids repeat what they are told. There is no way your daughter could have formed that opinion on her own at the age of 4. Your kid's mother and her family likely implanted those thoughts into her head.

 

[Modular]

Originally posted by: Stiganator
How is born again Christian relevant. Well it generally describes a group of people who are a bit extreme in their religious practices. It is in fact the reason we separated. She was normal then became a crazy born again. At one point yelling and screaming at me because I was reading, "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" to my daughter when she was an infant, because I was exposed her to the occult. She has obviously mellowed significantly since that time. This whole Obama bit has been the first real point of contention since that time. If you're going to troll get the hell out of this thread. In fact, get off the forums, you're not wanted here.

Again, there's not proof that she learned this from her mother.

Also, It sounds like your ex is the problem, not the Christian religion. How about you learn to separate the two and not focus your dislike of who your ex is on the fact that she's now a Christian? That would be the rational, adult thing to do. But then again, so would not accusing someone of doing something horrible that you have no proof of...

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

That's pretty scary. Talk to the mother and explain what you're thinking: that the kid shouldn't be indoctrinated with extremism at such an early age, and that neither of you should push such beliefs.

 

[Colt45]

Tell her her mother is a whore.

 

[JM Aggie08]

I'm sure much of the same had been said about Bush...

BUT, Obama is black, so it would be completely AWFUL of someone to say something like that 😉

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Amused
Someone else got it too:

"Not a surprising response if she's spending time with her born-again mother."

That poster was saying the problem lies with the mother.

You read the OP and decided that the father was the politically biased one. 😕

Originally posted by: Amused
So shut it, Perk. I know you live to shoot me down, but seriously...

What you quoted is weak sauce, Shirley even you can see that.

You're the one who brought political bias into this thread.

You read of a 4 year old girl having absorbed this thought about President-Elect Obama and decide that the OP is the politically biased one in that situation.

If you were smarter or wiser, or apparently, less politically biased yourself, you'd see how stupid that makes you look.

 

[rh71]

did you ask her if it was racial (in your own way of course)? That would be a start in addressing this with her...

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Amused
Someone else got it too:

"Not a surprising response if she's spending time with her born-again mother."

That poster was saying the problem lies with the mother.

You read the OP and decided that the father was the politically biased one. 😕

Originally posted by: Amused
So shut it, Perk. I know you live to shoot me down, but seriously...

What you quoted is weak sauce, Shirley even you can see that.

You're the one who brought political bias into this thread.

You read of a 4 year old girl having absorbed this thought about President-Elect Obama and decide that the OP is the politically biased one in that situation.

If you were smarter or wiser, or apparently, less politically biased yourself, you'd see how stupid that makes you look.

I understood it exactly the same way Amused did. Her being a born-again christian is one of his ways to look down his nose at her and further his point that she is stupid for believing what she does. It is obviously rubbing off on his daughter as all born-again christians want Obama to die. Or maybe it's just that she is nuts and has a tendency to say irrational things, which should be the main point.

 

[Slapstick]

I worry about you people sometimes. The kids 4, tell her you don''t talk like that in your home and the you never should wish anyone dead. Then give her a cookie, she's 4 for Christ's sake!

 

[*kjm]

Originally posted by: Slapstick
I worry about you people sometimes. The kids 4, tell her you don''t talk like that in your home and the you never should wish anyone dead. Then give her a cookie, she's 4 for Christ's sake!

That is what I would do🙂

 

[gorcorps]

What's the age of the kid? She might have heard it at school from a kid who got it from THEIR parents. Maybe even overheard a teacher or something. I wouldn't jump to the mother conclusion that quickly, but still keep it in mind.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Amused
Someone else got it too:

"Not a surprising response if she's spending time with her born-again mother."

That poster was saying the problem lies with the mother.

You read the OP and decided that the father was the politically biased one. 😕

Originally posted by: Amused
So shut it, Perk. I know you live to shoot me down, but seriously...

What you quoted is weak sauce, Shirley even you can see that.

You're the one who brought political bias into this thread.

You read of a 4 year old girl having absorbed this thought about President-Elect Obama and decide that the OP is the politically biased one in that situation.

If you were smarter or wiser, or apparently, less politically biased yourself, you'd see how stupid that makes you look.

I understood it exactly the same way Amused did. Her being a born-again christian is one of his ways to look down his nose at her and further his point that she is stupid for believing what she does. It is obviously rubbing off on his daughter as all born-again christians want Obama to die. Or maybe it's just that she is nuts and has a tendency to say irrational things, which should be the main point.

Perk won't get it. He has a very special erection for me and has his panties in a bunch over my supposed bias while plainly showing his own. What he cannot and will not understand is, I favor Bush no more than I favor Obama. He completely fails to see the political and religious bias in the first post for two reasons: His own political and religious bias that agrees with the OP and his strange fascination with me. He lives to call me out and try to "pwn" me in threads. Instead with his personal attacks against Mosh and me he just seems to be irrational.

Oh well.

Others see it, Perk. I'm not the only one. I called for reason and you came in here screaming like a PMSing bitch.

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Amused
Someone else got it too:

"Not a surprising response if she's spending time with her born-again mother."

That poster was saying the problem lies with the mother.

You read the OP and decided that the father was the politically biased one. 😕

Originally posted by: Amused
So shut it, Perk. I know you live to shoot me down, but seriously...

What you quoted is weak sauce, Shirley even you can see that.

You're the one who brought political bias into this thread.

You read of a 4 year old girl having absorbed this thought about President-Elect Obama and decide that the OP is the politically biased one in that situation.

If you were smarter or wiser, or apparently, less politically biased yourself, you'd see how stupid that makes you look.

I understood it exactly the same way Amused did. Her being a born-again christian is one of his ways to look down his nose at her and further his point that she is stupid for believing what she does. It is obviously rubbing off on his daughter as all born-again christians want Obama to die. Or maybe it's just that she is nuts and has a tendency to say irrational things, which should be the main point.

Perk won't get it. He has a very special erection for me and has his panties in a bunch over my supposed bias while plainly showing his own. What he cannot and will not understand is, I favor Bush no more than I favor Obama. He completely fails to see the political and religious bias in the first post for two reasons: His own political and religious bias that agrees with the OP and his strange fascination with me. He lives to call me out and try to "pwn" me in threads. Instead with his personal attacks against Mosh and me he just seems to be irrational.

Oh well.

Others see it, Perk. I'm not the only one. I called for reason and you came in here screaming like a PMSing bitch.

See here is the thing you seem to be missing.....

The OP may not like the mom's religion. He may think she is a complete wack job. He even said that is the reason they are divorced.

HOWEVER, that has NOTHING to do with political bias. Nor does it have anything to do with what the kid said.

Let me spell it out for you:

-Child said some very hateful things that she must have learned somewhere.
-He has every reason to be pissed regardless of his religious or political leanings.
-Child most likely learned it at home with the mom regardless if the mom was the one who actually said it.

You want to deflect everything instead of talking about what really happened. You want to pin something on the OP for having an issue when his child said she wanted Obama to die.

You still haven't addressed my question of what backasswards place do you live where people are wishing others dead all the time.....

 

[Amused]

I never said what she said was okay, I merely said the OP was overreacting. And he was. His post made it obvious he is strongly opposed to the mother's beliefs. If you carefully read his OP, you see that he is more strongly opposed to their beliefs than he is about what the child said. And no matter how much he denies it, I will bet you he'd have been less outraged had she said it about a political figure he didn't like.

What wonderland do you live in where people never say "I could just kill him" or "I wish he was dead?" Because I've lived all over the US and I've heard it everywhere. It's an expression of anger and/or disgust. I've heard it from libs and cons and everything in between. You'll hear it more from kids than from adults because adults have learned to filter their thoughts. Kids have not. "He should die" or "I wish he was dead" is actually a very IMMATURE thing to say, not a mature thing she picked up elsewhere. She probably heard negative things about Obama and simply expressed her opinion in an IMMATURE fashion.

I'm NOT deflecting ANYTHING. That happens to be you and Perk doing that. I merely pointed out that the OP is overreacting and probably doing so because of his bias against the Mother's beliefs. Period. I did not condone what the child said. Please point out where I did so.

This is NOT something that needs court action or a confrontation with the child's mother. You just sit down with the child and explain why saying/wishing such a thing is not acceptable. Kids say some awful things sometimes. As they grow they learn to filter.