My 2006 M3

[ballmode]

Merica!

 

[DaTT]

Where was the pic I took of the 105mph on a public road? The other pics were public, but nothing to say I was breaking any law.

That pic was taken here. Ahhh, the wonders of modern technology

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=+27°+3...459333&sspn=0.03132,0.055747&vpsrc=0&t=h&z=17

 

[HAL9000]

Merica!

Is that a yes?

 

[exdeath]

So in America it's legal to irresponsibly break the law is that what you're saying?

I wouldn't say it was irresponsible if it was out in the open with no other cars in the area.

As for "breaking the law" it depends on whether or not you believe in "letter of the law" or "spirit of the law".

Spirit of the law says speeding endangers, others. If there were no others around when you chose to do it, then spirit and purpose of said law has been observed and the law has achieved it's intended purpose to protect the rights of others to be safe on public roads. Morally, you're off the hook.

Now can you still get ticketed? Of course. We all know the risks and consequences.

 

[HAL9000]

I wouldn't say it was irresponsible if it was out in the open with no other cars in the area.

It wasn't check the photos

As for "breaking the law" it depends on whether or not you believe in "letter of the law" or "spirit of the law".

Spirit of the law says speeding endangers, others. If there were no others around when you chose to do it, then spirit and purpose of said law has been observed and the law has achieved it's intended purpose to protect the rights of others to be safe on public roads. Morally, you're off the hook.

Now can you still get ticketed? Of course. We all know the risks and consequences.

Morality has no baring on legality, it dosent matter how you view the law only how the law views your actions and he was clearly breaking the law.

 

[Subyman]

You also have to take into account that a person can not ever fully determine that others could not be potentially endangered by their actions. Take for example, you speed down the road with no other drivers around. A deer runs out or you lose control and crash. Now the police have to come out and close the road off, firemen have to come, and ambulance drivers have to be dispatched. You have now put all those emergency worker's lives in danger by having them come out to an interstate or highway and help get you out of your car on the side of the road.

You've also endangered the other drivers by having a lane blocked off and the emergency vehicles on the shoulder of the road.

Seriously, driving fast is not for public roads no matter the situation (unless Godzilla is chasing you.) There are so many private tracks in the US, that there is no reason to "take it to the streets."

 

[alkemyst]

Not bad, but I think it would look even better if the whole insert "cut out" section was blacked out.

eg

Not an M3 but you get the idea. All CF that large a section would look too tacky of course, just bumper + rough texture black plastic insert/cutout + center CF diffuser / exhaust trim that you have. If that's possible at all, not sure if those pieces snap in and out or if it requires a whole new bumper cover. If not, then a matte wrap or power coat of the inset section would be fine too.

That's the way they come pre-painted.

The rear diffuser is from the CSL, the CSL is finished like mine is. The whole piece is carbon fiber.

 

[alkemyst]

although super sports are newer than the ps2s they are generally cheaper given that they are made in the US vs France. If I was being a stickler I would try and ask for some credit or money back.

But lucky you as the PSS are better than the PS2's, in fact I just got a set for my boxster.

The PS/2 were much cheaper since they were liquidating inventory.

The PSS is an across the board better tire.

Now at many places due to shrinking inventory the PS/2 is commanding a premium for those that have a one tire blow out.

 

[alkemyst]

That pic was taken here. Ahhh, the wonders of modern technology

http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=+27°+3...459333&sspn=0.03132,0.055747&vpsrc=0&t=h&z=17

You have issues. Do you go through everyone's EXIF info?

 

[DaTT]

You have issues. Do you go through everyone's EXIF info?

No issues, just offering up proof that you were on a public road when you said there was none...

Where was the pic I took of the 105mph on a public road? The other pics were public, but nothing to say I was breaking any law.

 

[alkemyst]

No issues, just offering up proof that you were on a public road when you said there was none...

Except I actually wasn't on I95 at the time.

 

[HAL9000]

You also have to take into account that a person can not ever fully determine that others could not be potentially endangered by their actions. Take for example, you speed down the road with no other drivers around. A deer runs out or you lose control and crash. Now the police have to come out and close the road off, firemen have to come, and ambulance drivers have to be dispatched. You have now put all those emergency worker's lives in danger by having them come out to an interstate or highway and help get you out of your car on the side of the road.

You've also endangered the other drivers by having a lane blocked off and the emergency vehicles on the shoulder of the road.

Seriously, driving fast is not for public roads no matter the situation (unless Godzilla is chasing you.) There are so many private tracks in the US, that there is no reason to "take it to the streets."

:thumbsup:

 

[DaTT]

Except I actually wasn't on I95 at the time.

So your iPhone 4 is lying? I highly doubt that. That picture was snapped right where the green arrow on the map is.

 

[Subyman]

Except I actually wasn't on I95 at the time.

Strange, here's part of the data dump from the pic:

<exif:GPSLatitude>27,31.92N</exif:GPSLatitude>
<exif:GPSLongitude>80,27.56W</exif:GPSLongitude>
<exif:GPSAltitudeRef>0</exif:GPSAltitudeRef>
<exif:GPSAltitude>15/1</exif:GPSAltitude>
<exif:GPSTimeStamp>2011-12-11T16:21:37Z</exif:GPSTimeStamp>
<exif:GPSImgDirectionRef>T</exif:GPSImgDirectionRef>
<exif:GPSImgDirection>6111/50</exif:GPSImgDirection>

Clearly shows you were on I95

 

[exdeath]

It wasn't check the photos



Morality has no baring on legality, it dosent matter how you view the law only how the law views your actions and he was clearly breaking the law.

Spoken like a true subservient Europeon.

Go on with every horror story and what if scenario for days if you'd like.
Fact is: nothing happened.

 

[HAL9000]

Troll troll troll troll

He broke the law, am I missing something?

 

[Robsasman]

Spoken like a true subservient Europeon.

You mean like the German autobahns where there are no speed limits.

 

[jlee]

He broke the law, am I missing something?

Spirit of the law vs letter of the law. He already explained it. Do you think there's no difference between running 100mph on a deserted highway in the middle of the desert, and running 60mph in a school zone? They're both ~30mph over...are they the same?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

That's the way they come pre-painted.

The rear diffuser is from the CSL, the CSL is finished like mine is. The whole piece is carbon fiber.

Wait don't you have a CSL? Do you not have the big brakes etc?

Does this piece have any actual function? Serious question, as my car came with one from the factory.

 

[JJ650]

Strange, here's part of the data dump from the pic:



Clearly shows you were on I95

lol

 

[videogames101]

It wasn't check the photos



Morality has no baring on legality, it dosent matter how you view the law only how the law views your actions and he was clearly breaking the law.

Yes he was, nobody is arguing that. However, many of us don't have a problem breaking a law if we can morally justify that we aren't harming others. Intent of the law matters more to me anyways.

 

[Subyman]

Spoken like a true subservient Europeon.

Go on with every horror story and what if scenario for days if you'd like.
Fact is: nothing happened.

I guess you are okay with firing a weapon into the air as well? I mean, 99.999% of the time no one will be injured.

 

[videogames101]

I guess you are okay with firing a weapon into the air as well? I mean, 99.999% of the time no one will be injured.

Kinda boring tho

 

[alkemyst]

Strange, here's part of the data dump from the pic:



Clearly shows you were on I95

Well at that time I was next to it, Sherlock Holmes.

 

[alkemyst]

Wait don't you have a CSL? Do you not have the big brakes etc?

Does this piece have any actual function? Serious question, as my car came with one from the factory.

I have a M3 with ZCP package. It has some of the CSL items, CSL's were never sold in the US, they only made 455.

A rear diffuser uses bernoullli's principal to generate downforce more effectively than a rear spoiler.

Whether it makes a difference in my kind of driving doesn't matter, the looks are much better than the stock piece.

I don't need every part on my car to add to performance.