-
We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.
Mwave IBM 120G 8MB 180GXP $112 No Rebates + Shipping
- Thread starter mikeg
- Start date
TranceNation
Platinum Member
lots of problems with IBM hds.....
bull crap, you should not be so closed minded about IBM, they only really have had problems with the 75 GXP's and this was close to 3 years ago (not to possitive about time) and now they have had really good drives ever since, I spend lots and lots of time in the hardware forum atleast 5 times a day, and I have been seeing more WD drives popping up then IBM, now thats not saying its high failure drive its just saying more people have bought this drive so the percentages are up so there are gonna be more reported problems!
alexruiz
Platinum Member
If the title is correct, this is hot. The 180GXP is the newest drive, it has 8 mb cache, tag-queuing and more improvements. At some point in time, IBM was the king of hard drives (just check anand's suggestion for hard rive in his rigs of the month 18 months ago)
Is it also at outpost???
Is it also at outpost???
TranceNation
Platinum Member
IBM is going out of the hd business, that should be a red flag
WHipLAsh13
Golden Member
Ignorant are we? I have 4 60GXP drives and not one has an issue. One series, the 75GXP, had an issue like 2-3 years ago yet you condemn an entire company for it. How quickly we forget that both Seagate and Maxtor has similar issues with series of their hard drives. Great deal thank you for the post.
Let's also not forget the clean room contamination that WD had about 5 years ago. RMA rate was over 25%. Nobody would touch a WD for years and now they are the favorite son again. It just goes to show how easy it is to damage a reputation and how hard it is to get it back.
The deal is good, the problem is IBM won't own up to it and won't admit that their hard drives were having problems. They would blame it on everything else. They should have done recalls on the 75gxp.
And another thing. When you send it to them they make you pay shipping. They make you ship it to them first, they take several weeks to get it to you. They expect you to ship it in this foam and all this even though the hard drive is broken and they ship it back in some crap material. They also send back refurbished parts. Those are all reasons why I wouldn't buy IBM.
And another thing. When you send it to them they make you pay shipping. They make you ship it to them first, they take several weeks to get it to you. They expect you to ship it in this foam and all this even though the hard drive is broken and they ship it back in some crap material. They also send back refurbished parts. Those are all reasons why I wouldn't buy IBM.
I personally don't think the newer IBM drives are that unreliable, but that's not the point at all.
Bottom line is, IBM never stood behind their products. It's their own fault not issuing a recall, or at least announce officially what was wrong with their drives. They fscked up their own reputation, not we.
I don't care how good their product is right now, but I know I won't want to deal with this company again.
Bottom line is, IBM never stood behind their products. It's their own fault not issuing a recall, or at least announce officially what was wrong with their drives. They fscked up their own reputation, not we.
I don't care how good their product is right now, but I know I won't want to deal with this company again.
Someone mentioned that these are their new design.. Anyone know about the noise levels of these drives?? The old IBM's were very loud, they had a high whine from the drive motor.
I currently only use Seagate drives, they are very quiet. Maxtor also implemented Fluid Bearings on many of their new drives, I hear that they are pretty quiet, but I have not tried them myself.
Hopefully IBM and WD will follow..
Yes, anyone know if these are 8MB? Or if they are at the Sacramento Frys? I might have to check this out later today, considering I just bought a 160GB WD there for $279 before $100 rebate. To do the rebate, you need the sticker off the front, which won't peel off. If you mail the drive in under warranty, it is required to come in its original packaging or other WD approved shipping materials... which makes it difficult since I have to cut the box open to get the sticker for the rebate. Dumba$$es.
Not exactly, IBM did issue a memo a while back stating that their desktop drives are just that, desktop drives. Meaning: they are not intended for 24/7 usage but rather to be used for about 40hrs per week. If you want to run your system for days on end, they recommend you get the appropriate drive from their server section. But at this point in time this is a mute point as they sold off their HD business.
All I can say is: I had my IBM DeskStar fail twice, I am not going to return it for exchange again. I know what's going to happen to it sooner or later.
If you trust this drive to last, I would say it's a great deal, especially considering there are no rebates to worry about. It's $99.- plus tax, plain and simple. It's just, personally, I don't want another IBM drive, especially not one manufactured in Thailand.
Someone told me that 2 years ago, and yet they still keep coming out with new drives. I've really liked all the IBM drives I've had. The only ones that ever had a problem where GXP 75 (the GXP 180 are 4 generations ahead of that). Heck my 2 raided GXP 75 are still going strong, they've been up and running for over 2.5 years now.
Have you ever heard of a company issuing a recall on a product that is simply bad? I can't think of any time I've seen that happen. All the recalls that I have ever heard of is when it puts the user in danger. For instance, if the HDs caught on fire when they failed, then IBM would have done a recall. Otherwise, it is better for them to just replace the problem drives through RMA. Between me and my friends, I've seen about 75% of the 75gxps go bad. Thats a very high failure rate. What I don't understand is why they replaced the drives with more 75GXPs. That kind of pissed me off because the new drives they send will fail in 9 months too. It sucks KNOWING that at some point in the future your hard drive is going to fail and you are going to lose all your data. If IBM had replaced the bad drives with a newer version of the drives then I would have been happy. I don't think anyone should have expected them to do a recall though.
I do think IBM made a mistake when they decided to look the other way instead of fessing up when they knew the drives were bad. I understand why they did it, but I think it backfired on them. The fact that everyone says "Stay away from those deathstars" is not ignorance, but rather the price that IBM had to pay when they wouldn't admit their problems. IBM *could* have done damage control to their reputation by admitting that there were problems with the 75gxps and then reinforcing their current line by saying the 60gxp, 120gxp, and 180gxp don't have the same problem. But instead they chose to keep their mouth shut, for whatever reason. So when people say "IBM hard drives suck" it is IBM's own fault. I don't blame anyone except IBM for the fact that people assume the 180gxp line will have the same problems. My theory is that when IBM realized they screwed up and damaged their reputation for the next 7 years they decided it was better to sell of their hard drive business instead of trying to win back loyalty. So they sold to Hitachi.
Maybe the 180GXPs are better, maybe they aren't. IBM never said "These drives don't have the same problem as the 75GXP line." Therefore, I will assume they have the same problem, and I will not buy IBM hard drives.
- SuperShaz
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 24K
-
-
