MVP - Mitral Valve Prolapse

[GoatMonkey]

Does anybody else have mitral valve prolapse? How does it affect your workouts? Do you feel like it takes you longer to make gains than other people?

 

[eddiebravo]

mvp is basically a non-issue unless the valve is really leaking a lot in which case valve repair/replacement may become necessary. dr's used to be concerned about it, but the modern approach taken by cardiologists is to basically monitor the conditions, treat any symptoms, and not worry about it beyond that. so unless you have a really bad case, it shouldnt have any impact on your life

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

How much do you have? +1, +2, etc?

 

[GoatMonkey]

Mine's not that bad really, but it does seem to affect my workout progress some. I'm told that the standard body shape for someone with MVP is skinny arms and legs with a flabby mid section, which is pretty much where I am. So I'm trying to build muscle mass, while at the same time doing a lot of cardio, which is kind of counterproductive also. I am making gains, but it's really slow.

I would just like to know if anyone else has similar issues.

 

[eddiebravo]

^who told you that? what a crock of shit. that isnt the standard body type for someone with mvp, its the standard body type for the entire goddamn population in this country.

i have mvp and i am faaaaaaaaar from that body you described. stop making excuses for yourself and worry about eating more and improving your workout.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

does it cause you to tire out quicker and have less endurance/stamina?

 

[Eric62]

My Dad has that - with regurgitation. He'll be 80 in February and is still in good shape - great shape for his age.
He doesn't resemble the orangutan body type the OP described AT ALL - LOL.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
Mine's not that bad really, but it does seem to affect my workout progress some. I'm told that the standard body shape for someone with MVP is skinny arms and legs with a flabby mid section, which is pretty much where I am. So I'm trying to build muscle mass, while at the same time doing a lot of cardio, which is kind of counterproductive also. I am making gains, but it's really slow.

I would just like to know if anyone else has similar issues.

I don't know if that's YOUR progress being slow. Depending on how you're lifting, how much you're eating, how much cardio you're doing, etc, you may just be reacting like a normal person's body would. You have to make sure you're in a caloric surplus and you have to make sure you're lifting heavy. You'll be hard pressed to gain much muscle doing 10 reps on everything. If you really wanted, you could calculate the numbers you need to make sure you're in a situation where you should be gaining and then you could attribute slow gains to the MVP.

 

[GoatMonkey]

http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C165057.html

"Interestingly, there is even a typical body type for sufferers: a slender young female with long, tapering fingers and a model's figure. Men can have the condition as can people with a different physique, but the majority seem to fit the standard profile."

I'm just saying that there is a standard body type associated with MVP (not that that web site is an authority, but it's repeated elsewhere if you want me to link those too). I think your imagination is running away when I say I have a flabby midsection. It is relatively, but I'm still overall skinny. I wear 36x34 pants if that helps, and I'm 6'4" 190lbs. I WAS wearing 34x34 until a few months ago when I listened to you bastards and increased my calories/day to try to build muscle mass.

I'm not really looking to make excuses, just wondering about other people's experiences. I've just been researching it recently and I'm looking into some diet/exercise changes to help my workout program.

1. I'm about to stop drinking caffeine again as much as possible to see how that helps. I was pretty much off of it until I started this new job. Replace it with a lot of water. 3 or 4 liters while at work then whatever I drink at the gym and for dinner.

2. I'm adding a magnesium supplement to my diet.

3. I'm trying a different method for my weight training sets. 6-6-6-30. 6 reps of the most you can do on an exercise, building up with the highest weight on the middle set of 6, as little rest as possible between sets. Then 30 reps with half the weight you can do on a max lift. So far it hits pretty hard. Focusing on compound/major muscle groups.

4. Shorter weight training workouts of about 30 minutes. Followed by a longer cardio workout of about 45 minutes.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: GoatMonkey
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C165057.html

"Interestingly, there is even a typical body type for sufferers: a slender young female with long, tapering fingers and a model's figure. Men can have the condition as can people with a different physique, but the majority seem to fit the standard profile."

I'm just saying that there is a standard body type associated with MVP (not that that web site is an authority, but it's repeated elsewhere if you want me to link those too). I think your imagination is running away when I say I have a flabby midsection. It is relatively, but I'm still overall skinny. I wear 36x34 pants if that helps, and I'm 6'4" 190lbs. I WAS wearing 34x34 until a few months ago when I listened to you bastards and increased my calories/day to try to build muscle mass.

I'm not really looking to make excuses, just wondering about other people's experiences. I've just been researching it recently and I'm looking into some diet/exercise changes to help my workout program.

1. I'm about to stop drinking caffeine again as much as possible to see how that helps. I was pretty much off of it until I started this new job. Replace it with a lot of water. 3 or 4 liters while at work then whatever I drink at the gym and for dinner.

2. I'm adding a magnesium supplement to my diet.

3. I'm trying a different method for my weight training sets. 6-6-6-30. 6 reps of the most you can do on an exercise, building up with the highest weight on the middle set of 6, as little rest as possible between sets. Then 30 reps with half the weight you can do on a max lift. So far it hits pretty hard. Focusing on compound/major muscle groups.

4. Shorter weight training workouts of about 30 minutes. Followed by a longer cardio workout of about 45 minutes.

That 6-6-6-30 program is going to screw with your gains. Just because you "feel the burn" doesn't mean that it's actually putting you into a position to build muscle. It means that you're building up waste products and increasing acidity. Hypertrophy is actually hindered by this.

The body has a sort of memory. It accommodates the healing process by what you do last in a workout. That's why, if your gain is solely muscle gain, then doing cardio on its own separate day is advised. It will actually hinder muscle growth to some extent compared to just heavy lifting. It's a phenomenon that's mechanism hasn't been found, but it seems to be confirmed.

If you want results, you're gonna have to do something different. I can almost assuredly say that your diet and your lifting program are hindering your progress rather than your condition.

You say that you gained a pant-size when you increased your calories. You weren't lifting heavy enough, I would bet. There's always going to be some sort of fat gain, but it should be offset by OBVIOUS muscle gain. It's not our fault that the suggestion didn't pan out so blaming the physics of bulking seems a bit ridiculous.

 

[eddiebravo]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
does it cause you to tire out quicker and have less endurance/stamina?

not at all.

to the OP, i have to ask, how old are you? how many years/decades have you gone without exercise? how many years/decades have you gone eating like the average american slob? point is that just like it took a loooong time for your body to get to the not-fat-but-pudgy build that you have, its going to take a looooong time to change that. youve been working out sort of aimlessly for a few months, havent magically transformed into a rock hard mens fitness cover model like you expected to, and now you think the reason that it hasnt happened is because you have MVP. news flash: you are the same as everyone else. find a workout routine that allows you to PROGRESS to lifting heavier weights, more reps, more volume over time(it really doesnt matter if you are doing 5x5, 3x10, 4x6, 3x8, etc. if you are lifting more and you are lifting heavier, you are getting bigger and stronger, period). do your cardio a few times a week. eat specifically to reshape your body. be consistent. wait long ass time for significant results.

 

[Zstream]

Originally posted by: eddiebravo

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
does it cause you to tire out quicker and have less endurance/stamina?

not at all.

to the OP, i have to ask, how old are you? how many years/decades have you gone without exercise? how many years/decades have you gone eating like the average american slob? point is that just like it took a loooong time for your body to get to the not-fat-but-pudgy build that you have, its going to take a looooong time to change that. youve been working out sort of aimlessly for a few months, havent magically transformed into a rock hard mens fitness cover model like you expected to, and now you think the reason that it hasnt happened is because you have MVP. news flash: you are the same as everyone else. find a workout routine that allows you to PROGRESS to lifting heavier weights, more reps, more volume over time(it really doesnt matter if you are doing 5x5, 3x10, 4x6, 3x8, etc. if you are lifting more and you are lifting heavier, you are getting bigger and stronger, period). do your cardio a few times a week. eat specifically to reshape your body. be consistent. wait long ass time for significant results.

Huh? Yes it causes lack of endurance/stamina. It screws up the Oxygen needed for blood supply when working out and causes fatigue. Trust me, when I was younger I was diagnosed with it and been having ongoing problems for quite some time.

Recently I have been having more heart problems so I must watch what I am doing when I work out. It can lead to irregular heart beat when it worsens.

 

[Eric62]

Each individual reacts differently to similar circumstances. Following your cardiologist advice is prudent. Hopefully he has some understanding of exercise and it's effect on your condition.
I had A-Fib, and A-Flutter (irregular heart rhythms) which in my case took 3 operations to cure.
Good Luck to you...

 

[eddiebravo]

Originally posted by: Zstream

Originally posted by: eddiebravo

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
does it cause you to tire out quicker and have less endurance/stamina?

not at all.

to the OP, i have to ask, how old are you? how many years/decades have you gone without exercise? how many years/decades have you gone eating like the average american slob? point is that just like it took a loooong time for your body to get to the not-fat-but-pudgy build that you have, its going to take a looooong time to change that. youve been working out sort of aimlessly for a few months, havent magically transformed into a rock hard mens fitness cover model like you expected to, and now you think the reason that it hasnt happened is because you have MVP. news flash: you are the same as everyone else. find a workout routine that allows you to PROGRESS to lifting heavier weights, more reps, more volume over time(it really doesnt matter if you are doing 5x5, 3x10, 4x6, 3x8, etc. if you are lifting more and you are lifting heavier, you are getting bigger and stronger, period). do your cardio a few times a week. eat specifically to reshape your body. be consistent. wait long ass time for significant results.

Huh? Yes it causes lack of endurance/stamina. It screws up the Oxygen needed for blood supply when working out and causes fatigue. Trust me, when I was younger I was diagnosed with it and been having ongoing problems for quite some time.

Recently I have been having more heart problems so I must watch what I am doing when I work out. It can lead to irregular heart beat when it worsens.

i was answering the first guys question about endurance as if it were addressed to me specifically. my mom has mvp and it does affect her endurance quite a bit, although her complete lack of exercise doesnt do anything to help that. i guess i just have a mild case because my strongest area when it comes to physical fitness is endurance/stamina. i have an ultrasound every year to monitor it, but the dr always just tells me im as healthy as i look and feel. but yes, you are correct that it can make you get winded faster than normal.

but the OP was complaining about not being able to put on muscle mass, not about being unable to complete an ironman. ive never heard anything about mvp making it impossible to put on muscle mass...physiologically that idea doesnt even make sense to me.

 

[DomS]

Don't resign yourself to being something that somebody told you is the stereotype for your condition. It sounds like you're not, which is good. STart a journal on here so we can help