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Must one be an idiot to consider running for Pres in the GOP?

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Was wondering when this thread would show up.

To answer your question no, but it helps if you want the nomination.
 

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Ben Carson isn't nearly as smart as he believes he is. He's apparently a good neurosurgeon, but falls prey to the usual low information positions conservatives are famous for on social issues.
 

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Holy shit, that CNN interview is bad. I'd argue he's pretty much done after that.
 

dank69

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Does one have to be an idiot to cling to the tired, completely debunked policies of the GOP?
 

Spungo

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Yes you need to be retarded to win the GOP nomination. Living in reality causes the vote to be split. You automatically lose if you say evolution is real. You automatically lose if you don't pander to the Obama birthers. Saying you'll cut social security or medicare will automatically cost you any election, but at the same time, you can't propose higher taxes to pay for these programs. You must propose tax cuts while increasing those programs. You must also propose tax cuts while proposing increases to military spending.

At least the democrats are somewhat logically consistent. Increase spending but tax everyone up the ass to pay for it. The republicans want to increase spending and pay for it using magic. Maybe praying will help fund these programs. Sometimes they pull a Romney/Ryan and propose weird budgets that rely on absurdly high growth rates of the economy. Increase spending by 3% of GDP, but we expect GDP to grow by ...... let's say 27% every year for the next 99 consecutive years. Where did we get that 27% growth number? The same place Obama was born, Kenya! *wait for applause*

I almost think the GOP is a conspiracy to increase the demand for physical gold and silver. They're doing the exact things that lead to currency collapse. Decrease tax revenue, increase spending, and use debt to pick up the balance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guidotti–Greenspan_rule
The Guidotti–Greenspan rule states that a country's reserves should equal short-term external debt (one-year or less maturity), implying a ratio of reserves-to-short term debt of 1.[1][2][3] The rationale is that countries should have enough reserves to resist a massive withdrawal of short term foreign capital.

The rule is named after Pablo Guidotti – Argentine former deputy minister of finance – and Alan Greenspan – former chairman of the Federal Reserve Board of the United States. Guidotti first stated the rule in a G-33 seminar in 1999, while Greenspan widely publicized it in a speech at the World Bank.[4] In subsequent research Guzman Calafell and Padilla del Bosque found that the ratio of reserves to external debt is a relevant predictor of an external crisis.[5]
 

Kadarin

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Heh.. Yeah, you have to at least appear to be a complete fucking retard to get the GOP nomination (because the GOP base is actually completely fucking retarded), but then you have to take back all you said and adopt a more reasonable position in order to win the general election.

Last time around, this resulted in an empty stuffed shirt winning the GOP nomination, but losing the general election. This is bad for the country because at this rate we'll never get a good Republican candidate.
 

Blanky

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Presidential suicide.

The GOP seem so fucking out of step with the nation it is starting to defy belief. Like maybe this guy is receiving money from the deme to screw himself and the party so badly. This reminds me of romney's statements about half the country though this is worse because gay interests would never let this to if he was in the running. It is a piece of tactical idiocy from which he cannot recover. He will never be president saying things like this.

Why can't the GOP stop being so damn stupid? Is there anyone in the party who thinks before speaking?
 

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his wiki article makes him look like gods gift to the surgical field. hard to believe a man like that would be so easily influenced, but then again im sure there are people in isis who are really smart too. theyre still awful people who hold awful, wrong opinions.
 

boomerang

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When I read the thread title for a second I thought Biden decided to run as a Republican.
 

Jaepheth

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I'd run as GOP nominee...

Not because I'm a Republican, or because I want to be President, but because I'd be using campaign funds to basically do a national restaurant tour wardrobe update.

If I can find a way to pocket some of those funds I'd be doing that too.


More to the OP though; yes, because to win the nomination you have to please almost everyone. And to turn a phrase: None of us are as stupid as all of us.
 
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kage69

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Given the contempt so many in the GOP have for science, as well as the social and religious dogma which they're proud of (despite much of it being at odds with law, logic, history, etc) I'd say an idiot would have much better odds of getting nominated in that party, rather than someone who believes in the scientific method, the Bill of Rights, and doesn't see knowledge and education as negatives.

It's why you have people like Perry or Huckabee in the limelight all the time, while someone like Huntsman pops up once in a blue moon.
 
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Given this guys past statements this really shouldn't be that surprising. He called the ACA the worst thing to happen to the country since slavery. Blamed police shootings of black men in Ferguson on "women's lib". Compared Gay marriage to child abuse and bestiality.

Can't say this is all that shocking to be honest.
 

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Given this guys past statements this really shouldn't be that surprising. He called the ACA the worst thing to happen to the country since slavery. Blamed police shootings of black men in Ferguson on "women's lib". Compared Gay marriage to child abuse and bestiality.

Can't say this is all that shocking to be honest.

How could a neurosurgeon by this crazy when it comes to biology?

Think he is just pretending to be stupid because he thinks "I have to pander to those lunatics"??
 
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How could a neurosurgeon by this crazy when it comes to biology?

Think he is just pretending to be stupid because he thinks "I have to pander to those lunatics"??

He just panders. Clearly. The guy said you have to read Mein Kampf to understand Obama's views. He just says what the lunatic fringe want to hear.

Even the freepers are railing against the guys comments. That speaks volumes.
 

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He just panders. Clearly. The guy said you have to read Mein Kampf to understand Obama's views. He just says what the lunatic fringe want to hear.

Even the freepers are railing against the guys comments. That speaks volumes.

Hey GOP you don't see a problem when a seemingly intelligent guy has to lower himself just to get a rise out of you??
 

Atreus21

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Have gay people ever turned straight?

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bshole

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How could a neurosurgeon by this crazy when it comes to biology?

Think he is just pretending to be stupid because he thinks "I have to pander to those lunatics"??

Well to be honest, if I was sentenced to life in prison with no hope of having sex with a female, there is probably a good chance I would to consent to things I would never consider as a free man. In the end (pun intended), man has a very very very strong urge to put his manhood into holes.

I am pretty sure this guy wants to attack gays by saying it is a choice. Of course it is a "choice", a choice dictated by genetics usually and by necessity at other times (see above).

The good doctor knows that he has to pander the very far right at the point in the game and this is an attempt to do just that. Why else would a politician even bring up homosexuality right out of the gate?

Is his position that gay is a choice so marriage or rights are off the table? Not really following the logic on this one.
 

jackstar7

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Sorry, are you asking if someone gay has participated in heterosexual sex? Because you don't have to wait... it happens.

Also, I thought all those pray away the gay camps had a perfect success rate.

You're saying no?