Muslims riot and kill 50 at Miss World pageant

[bizmark]

Originally posted by: Amused

Well, the middle east isn't the only place Muslims have become militant, or dangerous. Both SE Asia and Africa are having problems as well.

True.... I forgot about Malaysia, supposedly the largest Muslim nation in the world, right? I guess the majority of Muslims aren't in the Middle East any more. Kinda hard to comprehend, really 😕

 

[Zebo]

I don't know Amused seems silly to me. We get exotic woods from some muslim counties as well as tobacco and other products. It's irrelevant and draws attention away from the real issue and that I said in my previuos solution post.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: bizmark

Originally posted by: Amused

Well, the middle east isn't the only place Muslims have become militant, or dangerous. Both SE Asia and Africa are having problems as well.

True.... I forgot about Malaysia, supposedly the largest Muslim nation in the world, right? I guess the majority of Muslims aren't in the Middle East any more. Kinda hard to comprehend, really 😕

Yeah, pretty wild, huh? For the life of me, I cannot understand the popularity of this religion. But then, I don't much understand religion period.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl
I don't know Amused seems silly to me. We get exotic woods from some muslim counties as well as tobacco and other products. It's irrelevant and draws attention away from the real issue and that I said in my previuos solution post.

Death or conversion. :::shudder::: I think that's one of their biggest fears. More Crusades.

 

[Nemesis77]

Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

I'll take the Jews in the 6th (days)LOL

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

Are you kidding? They'll round up us godless heathens first!

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

Are you kidding? They'll round up us godless heathens first!

Well, maybe we should also get some weapons and join the fun 😀!

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

Are you kidding? They'll round up us godless heathens first!

Well, maybe we should also get some weapons and join the fun 😀!

Surprise attack on my chruch:Q

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

Are you kidding? They'll round up us godless heathens first!

Well, maybe we should also get some weapons and join the fun 😀!

I don't much like THOSE odds. Can't I just lie and fake a conversion to the religion with the best chance? 😉

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

Are you kidding? They'll round up us godless heathens first!

Well, maybe we should also get some weapons and join the fun 😀!

I don't much like THOSE odds. Can't I just lie and fake a conversion to the religion with the best chance? 😉

What? You don't want to go out in a blaze of glory :Q😛😀?

 

[bizmark]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Nemesis77

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Maybe it's about time we had a final showdown between different religions? Gather weapons and ammo, we're going shooting! And while they are blasting each other away, we atheists and agnostics would just sit back and have some popcorn 😛

Are you kidding? They'll round up us godless heathens first!

Well, maybe we should also get some weapons and join the fun 😀!

I don't much like THOSE odds. Can't I just lie and fake a conversion to the religion with the best chance? 😉

oh come on, you know us athiests are the smartest ones around 😀 we'd have a field day! 😀

 

[bizmark]

Originally posted by: Amused
Why is oil any less, or more important than other means? People spit out the word "oil" as if it's dirty and beyond contempt. Would it make it any better were we talking about Asia and electronics? Oil is a commodity. As such, the stability of one of the largest oil producing regions benefits the entire world.

Well, as an environmentalist, I really wish that we'd reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. However, that's really not at all relevant to this discussion.

So, for this discussion, I don't have any real problem with oil versus any other commodity. However, it is essentially the only thing tying the Middle East into the World Economy (remember, this was your reason for continued contact with the Muslim world... which for now I'll limit to the Middle East, despite our understanding that the Middle East != the Muslim world). They don't have any other major exports AFAIK. And yes, if militant Asians started blowing up stuff in the U.S., I'd be just as opposed to our continued reliance upon Asian electronics as a reason for our interference in their matters.

And don't think for a minute that the leaders and wealthy of the middle east don't need us as well. If it wasn't for us, they'd all be worse off than the lowest third world nation... and they know that. In fact, I think that's where some of their resentment comes from.

Well, duh! Dropping our support of these despotic governments and oil tycoons would be one of the best things we could do IMO, in terms of trying to move ourselves out of the gunsights of Muslim terrorists. It's because of our support, and only because of our support, that the top 1% of the Saudi Arabian population lives lives 100x better than the other 99% (thereby royally pissing off the 99%). Of course I just pulled those numbers out of my ass, but you get my drift: we're supporting the tiny ruling class, which is hated and feared by the rest of the population.

But, in the end, peace benefits the world. We've found out one too many times how an insignificant conflict in an insignificant part of the world can quickly flame up into world war.

Right, but we've sort of eliminated our choices down to two, right? One of which is peaceful (but "hurts the world economy") and the other of which is violent ("kill 'em all"). (and the violent one could EASILY be WWIII)

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: no0b

...ratical muslims...

Isn't that kind of redundant. I really wish someone would give muslims a taste of ther own medicine. No other religious groups are terrorists or intolerant to the level of these people.

Bullsh!t... ALL religions have fanatics... and it doesn't even take religion to be a fanatic....

Blaming muslims, ALL muslims is not just wrong, it's stupid too...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: no0b
...ratical muslims...

Isn't that kind of redundant. I really wish someone would give muslims a taste of ther own medicine. No other religious groups are terrorists or intolerant to the level of these people.

Oh... the irony...

I think its ok to be a little intolerant towards a group of people who savagely kill innocent civilians, rather than others who just share different beliefs, but i see how that difference might confuse someone of your stature.

oh, you mean like... the christians? Or the Jews? or the Hindu's? or the Muslims? damn... i guess you're right... hate everyone and get it over with...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: no0b
...ratical muslims...

Isn't that kind of redundant. I really wish someone would give muslims a taste of ther own medicine. No other religious groups are terrorists or intolerant to the level of these people.

Oh... the irony...

I think its ok to be a little intolerant towards a group of people who savagely kill innocent civilians, rather than others who just share different beliefs, but i see how that difference might confuse someone of your stature.

My "stature?" 😕 😛
no0b stated his concern that people may turn against all Muslims for the crimes of some few and you unknowingly confirmed it. Hence, irony. That was all.

As for my opinion, I'm an individualist. I don't blame nor hold responsible an entire religion because they can't control their extreme rogue fringe element. An element which, btw, consistenly violates the tenets of their faith in the name of their faith (more irony). So I blame the individuals who actually commit the atrocities, not all Muslims. Or would you blame all Christians for the past atrocities of the IRA? And considering that most of the world sees the USA every bit as much as a "Christian nation" as they see Iraq as a "Muslim nation," would you then lump the US into the IRA's crimes as well?

Ah well, the most ironic part of this whole thing is that Mohammed probably would take one of those Miss World ladies to marry. He was kinda randy like that, had quite a number of wives (which was a common and accepted practice of the day). The reporter was right, and a lot of innocent people got killed because the truth was spoken. Very sad.

I think he was comenting on the fact I mispelled RADICAL.

edit: Uh, no.

"Christian" nations, and other non-muslim nations are capable of being tolerant of other nations who dont share their primary religions. Muslims do not. Nearly every muslim nation that borders a non muslim nation has problems. Its been referred to as the "border of fire". Their is no other religion that carries intollerent followers TO THE EXTENT that Islam does. The only real moderat muslim nation is Turkey. Pretty much the rest of them fo have high profile radicals that have enough of a voice to cause problems. Nigeria rioits kill 50, hundreds held hostage in russian theatre, dozens die in suicide bus attack, hundreds die in explosion in bali... The common thread to all these is Islam. And these are just a few. Now im sure others can name "terrorist" attack by the IRA and other Non muslims, but really, is anything really to the extent to what these people have done and will continue doing??

So if your a christian you can be a "terrorist" but if you are a muslim you are a real terrorist...

And if you're so fvcking tolerant, why do you say that they are muslims, does that matter? criminals are criminals no matter what nationality or religion... but these days... if it's a muslim criminal... ALL muslims are horrible people... Islam is a bad religion and let's BOMB those towelheads...

The Russians used to be good at spreading propaganda, the US is the No1 nation of that these days...

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: no0b

...ratical muslims...

Isn't that kind of redundant. I really wish someone would give muslims a taste of ther own medicine. No other religious groups are terrorists or intolerant to the level of these people.

Bullsh!t... ALL religions have fanatics... and it doesn't even take religion to be a fanatic....

Blaming muslims, ALL muslims is not just wrong, it's stupid too...

Yeah, but you don't currently see this kind of sh1t from any other religion every day. If you wake up tommorrow and all muslims were gone, never existed and nothing to take their place, don't you honestly think that would be a plus.

I got an idea, we push North Korea with their nukes into this. They need the oil, they got the nukes, you figure it out. 🙂

KK

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Jellomancer

Originally posted by: klah

Originally posted by: grasshopper26

Originally posted by: BiggieC
Story

Wow. Muslims riot and kill 50 bystanders because they disapprove of beauty pageants. Side note, several are killed by suicide bomber in Israel today. Those peaceful Muslims.

Oh, so they disapprove of beauty pageants, so that makes killing 50 people somehow acceptable? What is wrong with these people? :|

Grasshopper

It all started when a newspaper printed:"What would (the prophet) Muhammad think? In all honesty, he would probably have chosen a wife from among them (the contestants)," Isioma Daniel wrote in Saturday's article.

Then people burned down the newspaper offices and just started killing each other.


"Shehu Sani of the Kaduna-based Civil Rights Congress said he watched a crowd st*b one young man, then force a tire filled with gasoline around his neck and burn him alive."
:Q


I thought the British had civilized these people; apparently not :disgust:

"These people" were civilized until the Arabs evangelized them.

Yes, let's forget history and blame the Arabs...

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: BiggieC

Originally posted by: no0b

...ratical muslims...

Isn't that kind of redundant. I really wish someone would give muslims a taste of ther own medicine. No other religious groups are terrorists or intolerant to the level of these people.

Bullsh!t... ALL religions have fanatics... and it doesn't even take religion to be a fanatic....

Blaming muslims, ALL muslims is not just wrong, it's stupid too...

Yeah, but you don't currently see this kind of sh1t from any other religion every day. If you wake up tommorrow and all muslims were gone, never existed and nothing to take their place, don't you honestly think that would be a plus.

I got an idea, we push North Korea with their nukes into this. They need the oil, they got the nukes, you figure it out. 🙂

KK

No, not all of us are ignorant.... some of us understand that their lifes count as much as ours, you're asking them to be tolerant and nice, but you want to exterminate them... i have one thing to say... Hitler had the same idea...

i guess you forgot that last K in your nym, huh?

 

[bizmark]

Originally posted by: SnapIT
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dude.... have you ever heard of quote consolidation?

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: bizmark

Originally posted by: SnapIT
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dude.... have you ever heard of quote consolidation?

No... 😀

 

[Palek]

Am I the only one who noticed that 4 churches were burnt down? Isn't that interesting? I wonder what went through the heads of those who committed the murders...

"Hey, this guy at the newspaper said something nasty about Mohammed. A lot of angry folks will be protesting. You know, this could be the perfect time to execute some people we don't like. We'll blame it on the protesters, just say they got carried away. The mob effect and all. And why don't we burn down some churches while we're at it? Two birds with one stone."

I bet it would be VERY revealing to find out how many of those killed were Christians.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Palek
Am I the only one who noticed that 4 churches were burnt down? Isn't that interesting? I wonder what went through the heads of those who committed the murders...

"Hey, this guy at the newspaper said something nasty about Mohammed. A lot of angry folks will be protesting. You know, this could be the perfect time to execute some people we don't like. We'll blame it on the protesters, just say they got carried away. The mob effect and all. And why don't we burn down some churches while we're at it? Two birds with one stone."

I bet it would be VERY revealing to find out how many of those killed were Christians.

The irony runs rampant in this thread... 😀

 

[db]

If we pull back our perspective to get a bigger view, we see that this whole attitude of "I have the one true answer and I will punish you in the name of God b/c you are bad" is so wrong for so many reasons. But the point I want to make is that we in America are not the far from becoming this same way. There are many "religious" leaders in America who would gladly be in charge and punish those who are "wrong".
Anybody know who I'm talking about?

 

[kherman]

Originally posted by: grasshopper26

Originally posted by: BiggieC
Story

Wow. Muslims riot and kill 50 bystanders because they disapprove of beauty pageants. Side note, several are killed by suicide bomber in Israel today. Those peaceful Muslims.

Oh, so they disapprove of beauty pageants, so that makes killing 50 people somehow acceptable? What is wrong with these people? :|

Grasshopper

Muslim extremeists are not rational thinkers. Gee, if I kill these people, I'm helping my cause. Not, maybe we should create a group ofpeople and voice our opinion in a peacful manner. Then again, we have pro-lifers murdering doctors (see irony)

You see, they play chess with out thinking several moves into the game.