Mushkin PC4000 512MB retail $119 @ Fry's

Pauli

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Are there any PC4000 memory modules that do any better than CAS3? I don't think I've seen any.
 

Nomans

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I have 2 sticks of Kingston's HyperX PC4000 512MB, got from BB a couple months ago when they were on sale for $99 AR. The timing is also CAS3. Actually I haven't seen any PC4000 with timings < CAS3. Anybody knows why?
 

Jaxidian

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Well, 500MHz is pretty fast for DDR, the faster you go the harder it is to get low latency.

Any clue how long these are gonna be at this price? I might need to get me a couple sticks but need to wait until next week. :(
 

edplayer

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Originally posted by: Pauli
Are there any PC4000 memory modules that do any better than CAS3? I don't think I've seen any.


I haven't seen any myself either

and Kingston PC4000 goes on sale a lot. Usually between $99 and $119 after MIR and usually at Best Buy.
 

CheetahMk2

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I dunno, RAM prices seem to be on the way back down. I got 1GB of some Pc3500 for $160AR, now it's back at $260. And NewEgg is having sales, $90 for 512MB pc3200. These should b $50 each soon, hopefully....
 

Budarow

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CheetahMk2...did you buy the Simple Tech from zipzoomfly for $159.00 after MIR? If so...what kind of performance are you getting and on what PC setup?

Thanks,

Bud
 

Parasitic

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Originally posted by: Jaxidian
Well, 500MHz is pretty fast for DDR, the faster you go the harder it is to get low latency.

Any clue how long these are gonna be at this price? I might need to get me a couple sticks but need to wait until next week. :(

Looks regular price to me...wasn't on sale or anything.
 

CheetahMk2

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Budarow, it is a bit off topic, but I am only running them at Cas 3 Pc3200. They were the cheapest I could find, I can't afford to overclock them right now.
 

tophman

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Actually, I'm pretty sure it is Mushkin. Perhaps it didn't test quite as high or maybe it is missing the Heatspreader so that Fry's can sell it at a much cheaper price than Mushkin. Fry's had some nice PC3500 that they were selling from Mushkin and it had the heatspreader on it. It was the Level 1 stuff. They just sold out of it. It had the exact same description as on the Mushkin site. It also was a lot cheaper than the stuff on Mushkins site. Also they had probably bought a large quantity from Mushkin a while ago when memory prices were cheaper. I have saved a bunch of links for (computer build stuff) but the only reason I haven't jumped on it is because my next build is probably a socket 939 and I wanted to read some reviews to make sure this memory did well with the new MB's and processor.
If you stop to think about it, Fry's is a huge retail outlet and I'm sure Mushkin was happy to fill an order for them! Since Fry's has a huge bargaining power they probably told Mushkin how much they were going to pay and Mushkin probably agreed to sell to them for slightly less profit as they were buying in such bulk. Maybe Fry's agreed to sell with no heatspreader so that the two sticks didn't appear identical and then Mushkin could sell direct to the consumer for a greater profit.
I wish that the 939's would have gotten out sooner so I could have snagged a couple of the PC3500 sticks. They had slightly better timings. By the time the 939's are out they will probably be out of these sticks as well.
 

dmzguy

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So I guess my question is: Does muskin's warrantee still apply with these sticks, as mushkin says that the warrantee is voided if there is no heatsink (specifically if the heatsink is tampered with)
 

tophman

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Originally posted by: dmzguy
So I guess my question is: Does muskin's warrantee still apply with these sticks, as mushkin says that the warrantee is voided if there is no heatsink (specifically if the heatsink is tampered with)

THAT...is a good question. I would assume that since these particular sticks never came with a heatspreader that they would still be covered by Mushkins warrantee. I have always heard people talk about Muskins great customer service so I wouldn't imagine they would risk people complaining on all of the deal sites over any problems with memory with the Mushkin name.
I'm not sure....? Anybody???

I'm still having a hard time with the current memory prices! My last memory purchase was 1Gig of PC3200 at 2-2-2- for $169.00 ----Directly from Mushkin.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Parasitic
Timing is apparently CAS 3.0-4-4-8; however mine didn't come with heatspreaders.

If yours did not come with heatspreaders, can you tell us the chip mfg. and the markings? I'm curious who is making 4ns RAM these days.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: dmzguy
So I guess my question is: Does muskin's warrantee still apply with these sticks, as mushkin says that the warrantee is voided if there is no heatsink (specifically if the heatsink is tampered with)

That's so funny, that memory overclockers like Mushkin (and I suppose OCZ as well), try to dissuade you from finding out what chips they use, and how much they OC them just by reprogramming the SPD, upping the voltage beyond nominal, and slapping a pretty heatspreader on there to hide what they've done.

Just like local chop-shop PC builders did back in the day when they sold overclocked CPUs to unsuspecting customers, and put "warranty void if heatsink removed". Some of them actually even glued the heatsink onto the CPU.

I've always wondered how/why the PC upgrade market tolerates these practices with RAM, but not with CPUs. I mean, you don't see Mushkin or OCZ selling "house-brand" 4.0Ghz P4 CPUs, do you?

(I guess the difference is, Intel would sue them in a heartbeat from trying something like that, and the memory vendors wont.)