Mushkin 4GB DIMM Kit

[rosarian007]

I am thinking about buying a new computer. Would these DIMMs work on the Asus P5K Deluxe or Premium. "mushkin 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?item=N82E16820146691

Are these the best 4GB DIMMs out there?

Are they Micron D9 Chips?

 

[cmdrdredd]

They are Micron rev.E not Rev.D. They do not make 2GB sticks with Rev.D

So what does this mean? Lower overclock, but less heat.

 

[slyydrr]

These sticks are supposed to be very good. I just ordered a set that should be arriving later this week. If you read the reviews on multiple sites (mushkin's site has links to 'em), they all say that they are VERY good overclockers. No one seems to have any problem pushing them to DDR1000 speeds or higher. I'll let you know what I think if you're interested... once my Q6600 G0 gets here that is

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: slyydrr
These sticks are supposed to be very good. I just ordered a set that should be arriving later this week. If you read the reviews on multiple sites (mushkin's site has links to 'em), they all say that they are VERY good overclockers. No one seems to have any problem pushing them to DDR1000 speeds or higher. I'll let you know what I think if you're interested... once my Q6600 G0 gets here that is

Yes, but you won't likely be able to keep 5-4-4-12 timings at DDR2-1000+ have to go to 5-5-5-15 which may not be a problem I guess.

I've given up on getting high Mhz clocks with my memory. I like to keep the voltages down to recommended levels and keep tight timings close to stock speed. The difference in performance is not that big. Compared to having memory die from too much voltage and getting crashes and errors because it doesn't like the settings.

 

[slyydrr]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: slyydrr
These sticks are supposed to be very good. I just ordered a set that should be arriving later this week. If you read the reviews on multiple sites (mushkin's site has links to 'em), they all say that they are VERY good overclockers. No one seems to have any problem pushing them to DDR1000 speeds or higher. I'll let you know what I think if you're interested... once my Q6600 G0 gets here that is

Yes, but you won't likely be able to keep 5-4-4-12 timings at DDR2-1000+ have to go to 5-5-5-15 which may not be a problem I guess.

I've given up on getting high Mhz clocks with my memory. I like to keep the voltages down to recommended levels and keep tight timings close to stock speed. The difference in performance is not that big. Compared to having memory die from too much voltage and getting crashes and errors because it doesn't like the settings.

I think a lot of it will depend on the sticks because there's obviously no guarantee of overclocking capabilities, but this site was able to OC to 536MHz at the stock timings (5-4-4-12): http://www.overclockersclub.co...ews/mushkin_6400/6.htm

This site: http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/8117/103/1/4/ was also able to OC to 534MHz at stock timings.

It seems that the stock timings are looser than what the actual sticks are capable of. People have been able to push the timings to 4-4-3-8 at the stock DDR800 speeds too.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: slyydrr

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: slyydrr
These sticks are supposed to be very good. I just ordered a set that should be arriving later this week. If you read the reviews on multiple sites (mushkin's site has links to 'em), they all say that they are VERY good overclockers. No one seems to have any problem pushing them to DDR1000 speeds or higher. I'll let you know what I think if you're interested... once my Q6600 G0 gets here that is

Yes, but you won't likely be able to keep 5-4-4-12 timings at DDR2-1000+ have to go to 5-5-5-15 which may not be a problem I guess.

I've given up on getting high Mhz clocks with my memory. I like to keep the voltages down to recommended levels and keep tight timings close to stock speed. The difference in performance is not that big. Compared to having memory die from too much voltage and getting crashes and errors because it doesn't like the settings.

I think a lot of it will depend on the sticks because there's obviously no guarantee of overclocking capabilities, but this site was able to OC to 536MHz at the stock timings (5-4-4-12): http://www.overclockersclub.co...ews/mushkin_6400/6.htm

This site: http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/8117/103/1/4/ was also able to OC to 534MHz at stock timings.

It seems that the stock timings are looser than what the actual sticks are capable of. People have been able to push the timings to 4-4-3-8 at the stock DDR800 speeds too.

Also depends on the memory controller, the strap setting, the fsb you're currently on etc.

 

[slyydrr]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: slyydrr

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: slyydrr
These sticks are supposed to be very good. I just ordered a set that should be arriving later this week. If you read the reviews on multiple sites (mushkin's site has links to 'em), they all say that they are VERY good overclockers. No one seems to have any problem pushing them to DDR1000 speeds or higher. I'll let you know what I think if you're interested... once my Q6600 G0 gets here that is

Yes, but you won't likely be able to keep 5-4-4-12 timings at DDR2-1000+ have to go to 5-5-5-15 which may not be a problem I guess.

I've given up on getting high Mhz clocks with my memory. I like to keep the voltages down to recommended levels and keep tight timings close to stock speed. The difference in performance is not that big. Compared to having memory die from too much voltage and getting crashes and errors because it doesn't like the settings.

I think a lot of it will depend on the sticks because there's obviously no guarantee of overclocking capabilities, but this site was able to OC to 536MHz at the stock timings (5-4-4-12): http://www.overclockersclub.co...ews/mushkin_6400/6.htm

This site: http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/8117/103/1/4/ was also able to OC to 534MHz at stock timings.

It seems that the stock timings are looser than what the actual sticks are capable of. People have been able to push the timings to 4-4-3-8 at the stock DDR800 speeds too.

Also depends on the memory controller, the strap setting, the fsb you're currently on etc.

But of course, I'm just noting that it is possible to get rather significant OCs with this RAM on the stock timings.

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
They are Micron rev.E not Rev.D. They do not make 2GB sticks with Rev.D

So what does this mean? Lower overclock, but less heat.

Isn't D9HNL considered also D9?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: lopri

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
They are Micron rev.E not Rev.D. They do not make 2GB sticks with Rev.D

So what does this mean? Lower overclock, but less heat.

Isn't D9HNL considered also D9?

Yes, but They may not use any revision of D at all. GSkill's 2GB kits sometimes have some Exxxx IC. So perhaps I was mistaken to say they don't make any D9, but I'd doubt that they all use these.

 

[slyydrr]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
They are Micron rev.E not Rev.D. They do not make 2GB sticks with Rev.D

So what does this mean? Lower overclock, but less heat.

Are you sure they're not Rev.D? This article shows that they are from what I can tell... http://www.eclipseoc.com/index.php?id=1,104,0,0,1,0&p=2

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: slyydrr

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
They are Micron rev.E not Rev.D. They do not make 2GB sticks with Rev.D

So what does this mean? Lower overclock, but less heat.

Are you sure they're not Rev.D? This article shows that they are from what I can tell... http://www.eclipseoc.com/index.php?id=1,104,0,0,1,0&p=2

Well, from time to time various versions of Micron ICs can be used with the same memory. Certain sticks that normally use D9GMH had D9GKX (higher clocks possible) when D9GMH was low supply.