Mushkin 1.5GB PC-133 $389 - free shipping

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XXXXXkevXXXXX

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cool pretty nice... im not in the need to get ram right now..but hey do people really see a big difference from moving from 256mb to 512mb or 1 gig of ram. I mean do you actually see it improve stuff.... sorry for OT.

waiting for 512mb to get to 60 bucks a stick then will jump hop and skip on deal...
 
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Maverick319

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Man, I thought it was just one stick. Kinda just like to hold a 1.5GB stick, just for S&G. Still an excellent deal.
 
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vdg

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!!!!careful guys..most of the mainboards are not supporting the 512MB sticks..check the doc. of your mainboard before buying!!!!
 
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Maverick319

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My Asus A7V will, but VDG is right, you better be sure before you buy.

Also support for the 512 sticks might only be achieved after a BIOS flash, and after my nightmare with my GF's Epox MoBo and W2K, I won't be flashing a BIOS anytime soon.

I think 1.5GB is overkill in everything but mission critical servers, but I would be lying if I said I didn't buy an upgrade just for bragging rights. I have 256mb of Crucial Cas2 PC133, and if the prices drop further I guess I will buy an extra 256 stick. What the hell, it's only money...
 
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InterWebGuy

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Maverick319 is right, the A7V can and will handle the 512 dimms. I just tripled my memory without any bios related hassles- no hassles at all in fact. :)
 
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VBboy

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First of all, a lot of RAM is great if you have the right disk-caching utilities. Such caching is particularly useful for CD-ROM based databases such as medical references, etc. It can cache the entire CD (but not pre-cache where you would have to initially wait for a few minutes). Also great for this:

You can set up a RAM DRIVE and copy all your PROGRAM FILES directory there, so it would load everything FROM MEMORY! MS Office, etc, would just run in a few milliseconds assuming you have a fast CPU. You could also copy Quake to a Ram Drive and play it from there, especially if you need to quit and restart the game/program often. It's must faster than when letting Windows do the caching for you.

Hmm, what else.. No Swap file! You disable the Windows swap file because even with 512 MB RAM you *may* occasionally run out of memory if working with huge Photoshop or other files. And Windows blows at swap file management!

Sound Blaster (new ones, anyway) use RAM to store the sound fonts - the MIDI samples and others to improve the playback quality, and I think they can take up to 32 MB RAM.

People, don't assume a lot of memory is useless. But there are problems with some Windows'es not supporting over 512 MB, read it somewhere else...

Lesson over :)
 
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Truth be told, unless you're using apps that consume lots of memory (like 3d rendering apps, photoshop, even servers), you performance can actually drop from using too much as your cpu will have to take time keeping track of all that memory.

Also, even if you did have 1.5 gigs of memory, you'd still need a swap file. Win98SE has better memory management than the prior Win9x, but its still not all that great.

My advice is to use the spare memory space as a Ram Drive. BUT, instead of copying all of your program files (which isn't too feesable consider how bloated programs can be today), use that Ram Drive space as the Swap File!!!

Windows loads whatever it can't get into memory into its swap file. AND, the swap file is more efficient if you give Windows a limit (normally 2.5x your current memory). Yes, the first time you exec a program, it'll take just as long to load as it would be from HDD, but from that point on concurrent loads will be almost instant. =)

This is a decent deal!
 
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<< !!!!careful guys..most of the mainboards are not supporting the 512MB sticks..check the doc. of your mainboard before buying!!!! >>


you sure?...my MSI K7T Pro2-a is pretty old and it supports 1GB sticks
 
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kc

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Great find but the price is a little high though.

Since we are talking about 1.5GB of RAM here, I would like to ask whether windows NT 4.0 sp6 can utilize all 1.5GB RAM? or I will need to get windows 2000 professional?

Note that anyone has experience with those cheap generic 512MB RAM selling ~$67 especially if you have put 3 sticks (1.5GB) into your system? Please let me know where you buy it from and what motherboard and OS you are using.
I will be getting a new motherboard and I am looking forward to get Asus A7V133 or Abit KT7A motherboard.

Thanks

kc




 
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PING

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Intel's i815e chipsets, not sure about i810e, for PIII's does not support >512MB RAM. :(
 
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thirdrail

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Hot deal, IMO.

<nostalgia>
I remember paying $125 for a 4MB SIM of generic EDO RAM for my 486SX/33. Also remember paying the same amount for a 1MB stick for my 286/12.
</nostalgia>

 
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CEO

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OT,

... and the Apollo Lunar Excursion Module had a &quot;whopping&quot; 48-Kbyte ROM ... :D
 
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Mamapajama

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<You can set up a RAM DRIVE and copy all your PROGRAM FILES directory there, so it would load everything FROM MEMORY! MS Office, etc, would just run in a few milliseconds assuming you have a fast CPU. >

VBboy, how would you go about doing this? Could you sent me an article or more info on that? Thanks!
 
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grfat

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um... it's 3 sticks. you need not keep them all. if you're not a freak, keep one, sell the others or split the order with friends. and as cheap as it is, by the time you actually find some practical use for 1.5gig ram, it'll be less.
 
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VBboy

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(Replying to KimChii's post)



<< Truth be told, unless you're using apps that consume lots of memory (like 3d rendering apps, photoshop, even servers), you performance can actually drop from using too much as your cpu will have to take time keeping track of all that memory. >>



What are you talking about?! Memory controllers handle memory access automatically, so the CPU doesn't spend more time accessing &quot;higher&quot; memory regions.



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Also, even if you did have 1.5 gigs of memory, you'd still need a swap file. Win98SE has better memory management than the prior Win9x, but its still not all that great. >>



No you don't. You only need a Swap file if the physical RAM is not enough for the OS and applications it is running. The sole purpose of the Swap file is to simulate real physical memory, so if you have enough of the latter, you do NOT need a Swap file!
Windows dynamically grows and shrinks the Swap file when &quot;needed&quot;, however its algorithms are far from being perfect, so you get a lot of disk access and read overhead.



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My advice is to use the spare memory space as a Ram Drive. BUT, instead of copying all of your program files (which isn't too feesable consider how bloated programs can be today), use that Ram Drive space as the Swap File!!! >>



I am sorry, but using MEMORY as a SWAP file is the most idiotic idea I have ever heard. I mean, COME ON! I don't usually say this, but RTFM. This is like buying a fast car just but not instead of driving it, tow it by your slowest car.

By posting such misleading information, you only confuse people.



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Windows loads whatever it can't get into memory into its swap file. AND, the swap file is more efficient if you give Windows a limit (normally 2.5x your current memory). Yes, the first time you exec a program, it'll take just as long to load as it would be from HDD, but from that point on concurrent loads will be almost instant. =) >>



Are you kidding me? According to your little formula there, the MORE memory you have, the BIGGER the Swap file should be?! The real formula is something like

SwapFileSize = (1 GB - YourMemorySize) -- this is for Windows 2K
SwapFileSize = (512 MB - YourMemorySize) -- for Win9x

Ehh.. I'm done here.
 
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SinNisTeR

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clap clap clap i new some one would speak up, lol. i was wondering where everyone got their info from.
 
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VBboy

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SinNisTeR,

I was trained at an underground government facility for 3 years. I am also proficient at handling small and medium firearms and know seventeen martial arts :)
 
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muttley

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The reason the memory is so cheap is that this type of memory would normally be ECC if not Registered.
 
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VBboy

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I don't see why this is a good deal? On PriceWatch.com you can find 512 MB of PC133 RAM for under $70, so 1.5 GB would cost $210. This deal here is $389. How is that a deal at all? For $390, you can buy almost 3 GIGS of RAM!!!
 
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