Multiple Routers on Single Network (Uplinking)

[DaCurryman]

OK guys so here's my situation. I have my Internet connection coming in to my DLink DI-624 (4-port router/switch + wireless AP). That is where I currently have all my routing tables and IP address assignments. Two of the 4 ports are connected to other APs (DLink DWL-2200AP) to extend the range for my wireless network.

Now the problem is that I have at least 6 wired machines that need to connect with only 2 available ports. I have an older Linksys BEFSR41v2 (4-port router/switch) that's just sitting around not doing anything. So I plugged the WAN on the Linksys to one of the available ports on the DLink. I set the DHCP server on the Linksys off (since I want the DLink to hand out IP assignments).

Device IP for DLink: 192.168.0.1
IP Assignment Range: 192.168.0.100 - 192.268.0.110

Device IP for Linksys: 192.168.1.1
IP Assignment Range: None since DHCP is disabled

What I'd like to do is basically use the Linksys to add the additional computers to the network, but I would like them to be given IPs from the DLink and within the range that the DLink specifies. I would also like to see them show up on the DLink's DHCP table.

This is where I'm having problems. The Linksys itself shows up on the DLink DHCP table since it's plugged into the DLink, but the computers connected to the Linksys do not show up. Since DHCP is disabled on the Linksys, the computers don't even show up on the Linksys DHCP table, even tho it is distributing an IP. When I use "ipconfig", it shows my machine as having an IP of 192.168.1.100 when that's not in my desired range.

I know this sounds pretty n00bish, but for some reason I can't figure it out and I'm fairly frustrated at this point. I need to have set IPs so that I can use port forwarding, remote desktop, and other services. I would appreciate any help. Please let me know if you need additional information. Thanks in advance!!!

~ Ketan aka DaCurryman

 

[kamper]

Probably better not to use the wan port on the linksys. Just connect it to the dlink with one of the lan ports (might need a crossover cable if neither can autosense that) and use it like a plain switch.

 

[BornStar]

Follow kamper's advice however you're still going to run into a problem as you'll only have 4 available ports when you connect the two 4 port "switches" together. If you want to get all 6 wired computers on the network you're going to need to go buy an 8-port switch and connect that to the D-Link.

 

[DaCurryman]

I'm gonna try that as soon as I get home. I'm gonna feel real dumb if it was just because I plugged it into the wrong port. I hope it works. I have a 5-port GigE switch also for when I connect the other comps. Just want to make sure it works before I start plugging everything in....easier to troubleshoot.

 

[JackMDS]

This applies to wire only as well.

Using a Wireless Cable/DSL Router as a Switch with an Access Point

:sun:

 

[Bluestealth]

Yes read Jack's page... because if you just follow kampers your going to run into a dhcp nightmare

 

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: Bluestealth
Yes read Jack's page... because if you just follow kampers your going to run into a dhcp nightmare

He already said he disabled DHCP on the Linksys so there shouldn't be any problems.

 

[Bluestealth]

Ahh didn't see that

I need to work at my glancing skills....

 

[JackMDS]

It is Not just the DHCP, you also have to change the core IP of the Router, to be on the same subnet.

:sun:

 

[BornStar]

As a layer 2 device the switch couldn't care less what it's IP is. The only reason why he'd want to change the IP would be for management purposes however it'll work just fine without the change.

 

[angryswede]

Just curious, it seems like intuition to plug the WAN of the Linksys to one of the regular ports of the DLink. Can someone egive a technical explaination of why that doesn't work?

 

[JackMDS]

It would work, but it would create two independent Networks, and thus No LAN File Sharing.

Some time it is actually the preferred solution, http://www.ezlan.net/shield.html

:sun:

 

[Bluestealth]

Originally posted by: BornStar18
As a layer 2 device the switch couldn't care less what it's IP is. The only reason why he'd want to change the IP would be for management purposes however it'll work just fine without the change.

About 99% of home routers are set to 255.255.255.0 as their subnet unless the ISP is limiting the IPs the device can give out, thus I didn't think it was worth mentioning, but it is possible...

 

[JackMDS]

Originally posted by: BornStar18
As a layer 2 device the switch couldn't care less what it's IP is. The only reason why he'd want to change the IP would be for management purposes however it'll work just fine without the change.

And if for what ever reason there would be a need to manage?

Oh yeah, I know the Router would have to be put by itself on a computer set to obtain an Auto IP and then change the core IP.

So why not to do it Now when it is easy?

Oh yeah Hmm, but then who would have the last word.

:sun:

 

[BornStar]

Originally posted by: JackMDS

Originally posted by: BornStar18
As a layer 2 device the switch couldn't care less what it's IP is. The only reason why he'd want to change the IP would be for management purposes however it'll work just fine without the change.

And if for what ever reason there would be a need to manage?

Oh yeah, I know the Router would have to be put by itself on a computer set to obtain an Auto IP and then change the core IP.

So why not to do it Now when it is easy?

Oh yeah Hmm, but then who would have the last word.

:sun:

You said "have to change the IP" which isn't accurate. If all he ever wants to use it as is a switch then just disabling DHCP is all he needs to do. I would also recommend that he change the IP of the second router however he doesn't "have" to do it.

 

[Wik]

Originally posted by: BornStar18

Originally posted by: JackMDS

Originally posted by: BornStar18
As a layer 2 device the switch couldn't care less what it's IP is. The only reason why he'd want to change the IP would be for management purposes however it'll work just fine without the change.

And if for what ever reason there would be a need to manage?

Oh yeah, I know the Router would have to be put by itself on a computer set to obtain an Auto IP and then change the core IP.

So why not to do it Now when it is easy?

Oh yeah Hmm, but then who would have the last word.

:sun:

You said "have to change the IP" which isn't accurate. If all he ever wants to use it as is a switch then just disabling DHCP is all he needs to do. I would also recommend that he change the IP of the second router however he doesn't "have" to do it.

 

[DaCurryman]

I want to thank everyone for their help. It all worked out!!! Can't believe I just had it in the wrong port...how retarded.