Multiculturalism Responsible For Riots In Sweden?

[Incorruptible]

Sweden has had 5 consecutive days of rioting after gangs of immigrants started rioting when an 72 year old man was killed by police after threatening his wife and the police with a machete.

The rioters who are mostly foreigners have been burning cars and even attacking buses with people inside along with attack firefighters putting out fires..

Growing unrest turned to violence last Sunday in a north-western suburb called Husby – where more than 80 per cent of the residents are from overseas, mostly Turkey, Somalia and the Middle East.

Several public transport routes have also been cancelled after rioters started hurling petrol bombs at buses.

For decades, supporters of multiculturalism have pointed to Sweden as a classic example of a society which allows immigrants to continue practising their own culture while living peacefully alongside their host communities.
Around 15 per cent of Sweden’s 9.5million inhabitants were born outside the country.
The second largest group of immigrants, after the Finns, are Iraqis – numbering more than 125,000. Former Yugoslavs total over 160,000 and Iranians almost 65,000

Many of these people have refused to integrate and have come to the country only to bring their values from back home while making no effort to integrate. Some of the cities are majority foreigners and the native born swedes have left completely.

The country’s long-standing ‘open arms’ policy for asylum seekers has brought it to a position where it has one of the world’s highest proportions of asylum seekers relative to its population.
Among 44 industrialised countries, Sweden ranked fourth in the total number of asylum seekers and second in the number of asylum seekers relative to its population, according to figures from the United Nations.

Many refugees are coming to the country but they aren't integrating and then riots like this happens. These riots have lasted longer than the riots in England. Sweden can't just allow these people to keep coming in.

The police must go out in full force and stop these riots and everyone responsible must face charges. Sweden must take a hard look at the failure of multiculturalism and realize it has failed. Immigrants can still come to the country but they must integrate.

Should the police use full force to stop the rioters? Should the rioters face charges and go to jail? Has multiculturalism failed and should immigrants be required to integrate?


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-multicultural-success-story-turn-ashes.html

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[Orignal Earl]

Who gets to stay in America with your monoculturalism?

 

[xBiffx]

Multiculturalism, no. Lack of control on immigration, perhaps.

 

[Incorruptible]

Multiculturalism, no. Lack of control on immigration, perhaps.

Somewhat Agree. I hope that Sweden can learn from this and improve the situation but I doubt they will learn.

 

[Orignal Earl]

It's always funny to read these news stories, and then see the replies from people who live there on r/

Spreading beyond Stockholm? What? Where the hell is this happening? I'm sitting here in northern Stockholm and there hasn't even been so much as a honking car.

Saw some muslims eating waffles an hour ago but they did not attack anyone.

There's no real rioting just small gangs of kids playing cat & mouse with police. They'll take potshots with stones and slink away, set fire to stuff and run etc, etc. It isn't 100s of people gathered scraming and shouting things. I'd be more inclined to call it a "guerilla war" than a "riot".

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/

It's like the Brits here trying to telling Incor to remain calm

 

[SheHateMe]

By improve the situation, you mean...don't let anymore you-know-whats into the country.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

By improve the situation, you mean...don't let anymore you-know-whats into the country.

Internet trolls?

 

[ElFenix]

it's monoculturalism, not multiculturalism. forcing immigrants to live on the fringe of society keeps them from assimilating. separate but equal doesn't work.

 

[xBiffx]

forcing immigrants to live on the fringe of society

Who is doing that? The forcing part, I mean. From what I can tell, immigrants choose to live in close proximity to one another. This allows them to enjoy pieces of their culture (markets, churches, social halls, restaurants, bars) that they bring with them.

 

[ElFenix]

Who is doing that? The forcing part, I mean. From what I can tell, immigrants choose to live in close proximity to one another. This allows them to enjoy pieces of their culture (markets, churches, social halls, restaurants, bars) that they bring with them.

i dunno about swedes (other than sweden being pretty much the most homogenous first world country), but i can't imagine they're much different from the french who were doing that. that was a major revelation the french had after the paris riots a few years back. the arabs who did want out of the enclave basically had no way out.

 

[xBiffx]

i dunno about swedes (other than sweden being pretty much the most homogenous first world country), but i can't imagine they're much different from the french who were doing that. that was a major revelation the french had after the paris riots a few years back. the arabs who did want out of the enclave basically had no way out.

But how is it forced? Laws? Practices? Underhanded tactics by landlords or something? How are immigrants forced to live in a certain area. I am curious how this is accomplished and who executes it.

 

[sunzt]

@Incorruptible

Integrating/assimilating has gone both ways in the US due to multiculturalism. While foreigners have adapted to US culture and society, US culture and society have morphed over time because of it.

 

[Texashiker]

Multiculturalism Responsible For Riots In Sweden?

I think the violence is due to a lack of integration.

There are two cultures living side-by-side, but are in no way integrated.

Here in the US, blacks, whites, mexicans, asians,,, usually share the same beliefs, same holidays, same religion,,, to some degree.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I think the violence is due to a lack of integration.

There are two cultures living side-by-side, but are in no way integrated.

Here in the US, blacks, whites, mexicans, asians,,, usually share the same beliefs, same holidays, same religion,,, to some degree.

And yet we have a *Holding our ghettos to task thread*
I'm thinking the problems have nothing to do with religion

 

[Genx87]

Heh I love how the article says behind the Fins the Iraqis are the biggest group of foreign born citizens. Finland, what a wildly different culture

 

[Thebobo]

I looked at this article but got side tracked of the picture of Denise Richards

 

[Orignal Earl]

Heh I love how the article says behind the Fins the Iraqis are the biggest group of foreign born citizens. Finland, what a wildly different culture

I do believe they took on the bulk of the Iraq War refugees

 

[Incorruptible]

I think the violence is due to a lack of integration.

There are two cultures living side-by-side, but are in no way integrated.

Here in the US, blacks, whites, mexicans, asians,,, usually share the same beliefs, same holidays, same religion,,, to some degree.

Lack of integration is responsible but multiculturalism helps to lessen the chances of integration though.

 

[shadow9d9]

It is hard for me to comment on another country's turmoil without thorough understanding of the country's political, economic, and social structure. Somehow I doubt that our resident xenophobes have such knowledge...

 

[Texashiker]

Several years ago there was a skit on saturday night live about a couple of terrorist. They were in a sleeper cell that was being called up. A terrorist knocked on his buddies door and said it was time to do a suicide bombing.

The second terrorist had become "Americanized" and did not want to go.

The second terrorist invited his buddy into his house, showed him the big screen TV, satellite TV, recliner, and the blonde housewife who had some massive boobs.

Before the skit was over the first terrorist was saying stuff like "I can get used to this."

Two or more cultures can not exist in the same area without some kind of mutual respect.

 

[Incorruptible]

@Incorruptible

Integrating/assimilating has gone both ways in the US due to multiculturalism. While foreigners have adapted to US culture and society, US culture and society have morphed over time because of it.

With the policy of multiculturalism integration isn't encouraged and immigrants are told they aren't required to integrate. When they don't integrate they keep their old values and don't adopt the values of their country and BS like this happens.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Several years ago there was a skit on saturday night live about a couple of terrorist. They were in a sleeper cell that was being called up. A terrorist knocked on his buddies door and said it was time to do a suicide bombing.

The second terrorist had become "Americanized" and did not want to go.

The second terrorist invited his buddy into his house, showed him the big screen TV, satellite TV, recliner, and the blonde housewife who had some massive boobs.

Before the skit was over the first terrorist was saying stuff like "I can get used to this."

Two or more cultures can not exist in the same area without some kind of mutual respect.

That reminds me of the American Dad episode where Stan wants to stay and live in Saudi Arabia

Stan of Arabia

 

[Agent11]

Sickening. I usually don't like the idea of riot police shooting civilians but if they are attacking people and setting off firebombs I say shoot to kill.

 

[Incorruptible]

Sickening. I usually don't like the idea of riot police shooting civilians but if they are attacking people and setting off firebombs I say shoot to kill.

Agree. These sick people actually targeted a bus with petrol bombs.

 

[Darwin333]

A handful of incidents in a country that has a 15 fucking percent of the citizens being born in another country is a "failure"????

And tell you what, why don't you write out a law including the full legal definition of "integrate" and post it here. Then and only then can I make an educated decision on my support or lack of.


Edit: As far as the riots, the police absolutely should stop them and all responsible parties should be tried per their judicial system. The amount of force required to stop the riots should depend completely on the rioters imho.