Multiculturalism Responsible For Riots In Sweden?

[Orignal Earl]

Yea, he is a great guy. He came to the US, got a degree in engineering, worked his way up to president of a company, then started his own business.

I worked for him while we were both working for the first company, and again after he started his own business.

That would not of happened, if the people who have been pointing to the * immigration problem* since forever had their way

 

[Incorruptible]

People in Sweden are already admitting that the current system isn't sustainable and hopefully they can learn from this.

http://www.onislam.net/english/news/europe/462909-sweden-riots-pour-into-far-right-benefit.html

 

[Texashiker]

That would not of happened, if the people who have been pointing to the * immigration problem* since forever had their way

As with everything else all immigrants should not be grouped together.

 

[Incorruptible]

As with everything else all immigrants should not be grouped together.

But that is exactly what earl is doing though.

 

[PingviN]

These riots have been started by mostly immigrants. How many whites and native born Swedes took part?

How many immigrants participated compared to the immigrant population in the affected areas? 1%? Less?

It was mostly immigrants who are radical Muslims and have no intention of integrating.

Oh so these kids are radical muslims now? Really? And you know this how?

 

[Incorruptible]

How many immigrants participated compared to the immigrant population in the affected areas? 1%? Less?



Oh so these kids are radical muslims now? Really? And you know this how?

Your country is being taken over by these people. There are certain areas which are dominated by them and they refuse to integrate. Does this not bother you?

How many immigrants out of the immigrant population refuse to integrate?

They were shouting Allahu Akhbar and telling the cops to stay out.

 

[PingviN]

Your country is being taken over by these people. There are certain areas which are dominated by them and they refuse to integrate. Does this not bother you?

It does, but I don't feel the need to exaggerate the situation or lie to help myself make a point. People like you are not helping, you're just as bad as the moronic leftists denying there even is an immigration problem. It would be so much better if you extremists would stop high-jacking the debate.

How many immigrants out of the immigrant population refuse to integrate?

I don't know, do you?

They were shouting Allahu Akhbar and telling the cops to stay out.

Yup, someone shouting Allahu Akhbar is a sure sign of radical Islam . How many of these radical muslims shouting Allahu Akhbar participated in the riots according to your, well-informed, opinion?

 

[Orignal Earl]

As with everything else all immigrants should not be grouped together.

Right now your bad immigrants appear to be the Mexicans and Muslims
The other times in history it was the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese, the Japanese.
All for the same reasons you claim now

 

[Incorruptible]

It does, but I don't feel the need to exaggerate the situation or lie to help myself make a point. People like you are not helping, you're just as bad as the moronic leftists denying there even is an immigration problem. It would be so much better if you extremists would stop high-jacking the debate.



I don't know, do you?



Yup, someone shouting Allahu Akhbar is a sure sign of radical Islam . How many of these radical muslims shouting Allahu Akhbar participated in the riots according to your, well-informed, opinion?

It's nice to see you acknowledge the problem.

You can't just allow anyone to come in. Many of these people coming in and have no respect for Sweden but still retain their old values and their loyalty is to their religion.

Jews and gays have been attacked and are fleeing certain areas. You can't keep these people in the country and must realize multiculturalism has failed.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Jews and gays have been attacked and are fleeing certain areas. You can't keep these people in the country and must realize multiculturalism has failed.

I forgot the Jews in my list above.

Can you show me that none of these kids in Sweden were Iraqi Christians?
The Iraqi Christians and Muslims in Sweden all live together

 

[Incorruptible]

I forgot the Jews in my list above.

Can you show me that none of these kids in Sweden were Iraqi Christians?
The Iraqi Christians and Muslims in Sweden all live together

Again why can't you accept the truth?

Condemn these people for rioting.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Again why can't you accept the truth?

Condemn these people for rioting.

You type very little truth.

I condemn everyone who commits crimes.
But you won't stop asking me to do that over and over and over.
You must have very little common sense
The fact you think I'm a Jhiadist, means you group people in very large piles
Now answer my question

 

[PingviN]

It's nice to see you acknowledge the problem.

I've never denied the problems to begin with.

You can't just allow anyone to come in. Many of these people coming in and have no respect for Sweden but still retain their old values and their loyalty is to their religion.

This comes as a surprise to no-one, captain Obvious. Of course you can't let anyone in (which we don't, by the way. Our immigration laws are generous, but it's still regulated). Of course some of those coming here are not interested in becoming Swedes. Naturally, it doesn't help taking on more immigrants than our society is able to absorb.

Jews and gays have been attacked and are fleeing certain areas. You can't keep these people in the country and must realize multiculturalism has failed.

How many of Sweden's Muslim immigrants attack gays and Jews? If you're gonna call fail on multi-culturalism, you should be able to back it up with other than a few retarded bigots harassing homosexuals and Jewish people. I'm all for packing any non-citizen committing crimes up and air-dropping them over their homeland, but don't put the blame on peaceful Muslims (or Christians, Jews or atheists) minding their own business and obeying our laws.

You keep avoiding my questions and instead post new, stupid arguments that obviously stem from xenophobia.

 

[zinfamous]

Agree. These sick people actually targeted a bus with petrol bombs.

what are you, British? Get out of my country, you filthy tax-mooching immigrant!

 

[Darwin333]

illegal or legal?

Yea I see letting millions of illegal immigrants into the nation to preform low wage jobs. But in return we have to provide them with free services.

I can see allowing millions of radical islamist into the nation. Get so many in here that the boston bombings are a common problem.

Lets allow millions of HIV positive immigrants in from africa.

Not what I said nor implied, if those idiotic statements are your desires then I don't know what to tell you....

 

[Darwin333]

It is about immigration, had Sweden closed the doors 20 years ago this would not be going on and the country as a whole would be much better off today, sorry but there is no way around that fact. Same can be said of all other countries that allow mass immigration, it is an absolute, undeniable, and indefensible mistake, one that punishes ALL involved.

What about the US?

 

[Darwin333]

Actually we could close the door completely on immigration and be just fine, in fact both sides would be better off.

Economically the benefits would be billions a year saved on welfare and other government services, plus decline in jobless rates not having to compete with the rest of the world, the stopping of the driving down of wages, and subsequent increased tax revenue for the immigrating to countries, just to name a few.

For the immigrating from countries, no more poaching of the best and brightest, no more mass exodus of their workforce, forcing these countries to better themselves leaving them with the kind of people to do just that. Otherwise they will never ever get better only continually worse.

A win win for all involved, except of course for the employers seeking to take advantage of low wage workers to maximize their profits.

You aren't very aware of our, and most of Europes I believe, demographics are you?

 

[piasabird]

Makes you wonder where genocide came from???

This is what the USA should be looking forward to.

Muslim terrorists practice sharia law and as such they can have multiple wives and they breed like rats.

 

[Darwin333]

I guess providing benefits to millions of illegal immigrants has no bearing on why california is going broke?

I am sure it has some impact but they would be going broke with 0 illegal immigrants. Besides, why do you continue to bring up illegals? Did I miss a post or something that specified illegals or something because I thought this thread was about people who legally immigrated into Sweden.

Yea, he is a great guy. He came to the US, got a degree in engineering, worked his way up to president of a company, then started his own business.

I worked for him while we were both working for the first company, and again after he started his own business.

So you don't think we should let anymore people like that into the country legally?

 

[Darwin333]

It's nice to see you acknowledge the problem.

You can't just allow anyone to come in. Many of these people coming in and have no respect for Sweden but still retain their old values and their loyalty is to their religion.

Jews and gays have been attacked and are fleeing certain areas. You can't keep these people in the country and must realize multiculturalism has failed.

In other words kick every Muslim out of the country and don't let any new ones in......

Psst: I have seen and heard US congressmen and Senators say and prove that their loyalty is to their religion. Why do you think its ok just because its your religion?

BTW you are showing more and more that you are a model of a good modern Christian.

 

[Incorruptible]

I've never denied the problems to begin with.



This comes as a surprise to no-one, captain Obvious. Of course you can't let anyone in (which we don't, by the way. Our immigration laws are generous, but it's still regulated). Of course some of those coming here are not interested in becoming Swedes. Naturally, it doesn't help taking on more immigrants than our society is able to absorb.



How many of Sweden's Muslim immigrants attack gays and Jews? If you're gonna call fail on multi-culturalism, you should be able to back it up with other than a few retarded bigots harassing homosexuals and Jewish people. I'm all for packing any non-citizen committing crimes up and air-dropping them over their homeland, but don't put the blame on peaceful Muslims (or Christians, Jews or atheists) minding their own business and obeying our laws.

You keep avoiding my questions and instead post new, stupid arguments that obviously stem from xenophobia.

How many of them have negative views about gays and Jews?

You live in Sweden and I have offered solutions on how to fix the problem.

How would you fix this problem?

what are you, British? Get out of my country, you filthy tax-mooching immigrant!

I used the word petrol because that's what was used in the article.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Makes you wonder where genocide came from???

This is what the USA should be looking forward to.

Muslim terrorists practice sharia law and as such they can have multiple wives and they breed like rats.

Ah now I see, your just spewing hate
You Mormons
You almost got a President in, lord knows what could of happened
You can come practice your polygamy here in Saskatchewan, its technally legal

 

[PingviN]

How many of them have negative views about gays and Jews?

I don't know, do you?

You live in Sweden and I have offered solutions on how to fix the problem.

No, you haven't. And yes, I live in Sweden and I'm sure I know the situation here much, much better than you do.

How would you fix this problem?

I'd probably start with cutting benefits and require those who want to bring their families over here to be able to provide for them.
Then there's the tightening of asylum requirements, which are currently too lax.
We still have problems with regulated housing market, it needs to change, so I'd propose deregulation of any new projects.
Deportation of any non-European immigrant committing a crime resulting in prison time.
There is of course much more to do, but I guess that's where I'd start.

 

[Abwx]

I live in France where there s from time to time some problems
in suburbs but it is nowhere close to the said incorruptible
dreadfull description that seems getting right out of a paranoid
doubled by a typical KKK mentality.

 

[lagokc]

I forgot the Jews in my list above.

There's kind of an interesting story behind Jewish immigration to the US, persecution, and integration. With any displaced culture, individuals are flooded with ambivalence about changing their customs to better fit in with the new location, whether those traditional customs are religious in nature or merely habit. Sometimes an individual event can even split a community.

For example in 1883 at a banquet celebrating the graduation of the first year of Rabbis from Hebrew Union College shrimp was served in order to make the point that the dietary laws were no longer mandatory under Reform Judaism. The result of the Trefa Banquet (or if you prefer Shrimp Incident:biggrin eventually led the more conservative members of Reform Judaism to break away and form Conservative Judaism.

Unfortunately due to the eternal unerring nature of the Quran any attempts to create a "Reform Islam" with rules like "no we don't kill apostates anymore" have met with failure. Not that there aren't some that think that way but doing so explicitly rather than implicitly would be a big step forward.