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Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson?

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Rope-A-Dope > Tyson
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Parkinsons > Rope-A-Dope 😛

But seriously, it's very hard to compare because there weren't any boxers like Tyson around with that much raw strenght like Tyson in Ali's day. In his prime, I'd question how well the Ropeadope would hold up against someone like Tyson 😛
 
There are many, many boxing experts that consider Ali the most overrated champion of all time. I'd tend to agree with that somewhat. He was a great showman (with highly questionable ethics), and a good boxer, but not the greatest of all time. Joe Frazier should have beat him in their 3rd matchup (The Thrilla in Manilla). Both of them were beat up badly, but had Frazier's trainers not thrown in the towel after the 14th round its believed Ali had told his people that he wasn't going out for the 15th. The stunned look on his face when he sees that Frazier has quit seems to back that up. He had resigned that he was going to quit, and was in shock that all of a sudden he had won.

Tyson during his prime was unbeatable. He had an insane amount of power behind his punches and could connect with them at a stunning pace. Unfortunately he just wasn't all there mentally and wound up completely losing that drive to win.

But in their primes, Tyson would have destroyed Ali. Ali would have been scared to death of him, and Tyson was too stupid to be in any way intimidated by what Ali could bring to the fight.

Sad that heavyweight boxing is in the crapper completely nowadays.
 
something about Joe Joe Frazier :Q

It should also be noted that according to Joe in the HBO special documenting "The Thrilla in Manilla" fight, he was partially blind in his left eye due to a training accident in 1965. This would indicate that throughout his entire professional career, he fought with only partial sight on his left side.
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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Rope-A-Dope > Tyson
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Parkinsons > Rope-A-Dope 😛

But seriously, it's very hard to compare because there weren't any boxers like Tyson around with that much raw strenght like Tyson in Ali's day. In his prime, I'd question how well the Ropeadope would hold up against someone like Tyson 😛
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I don't know, but George Foreman was a monster and considered the hardest hitter back then.
 
Ali in his prime > Tyson in his prime.

Ali had a great chin when you could hit it. Tyson was monster, but Ali would have taken him to school by the fifth round.

 
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Rope-A-Dope > Tyson
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Parkinsons > Rope-A-Dope 😛

But seriously, it's very hard to compare because there weren't any boxers like Tyson around with that much raw strenght like Tyson in Ali's day. In his prime, I'd question how well the Ropeadope would hold up against someone like Tyson 😛
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I don't know, but George Foreman was a monster and considered the hardest hitter back then.
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Not to mention Sonny Liston, who was AT LEAST as feared in is day as Mike Tyson was.

This match-up is not that close. Ali in his prime all the damn way. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Rope-A-Dope > Tyson
Click to expand...

Parkinsons > Rope-A-Dope 😛

But seriously, it's very hard to compare because there weren't any boxers like Tyson around with that much raw strenght like Tyson in Ali's day. In his prime, I'd question how well the Ropeadope would hold up against someone like Tyson 😛
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Ali took Foremans hardest hits over and over. Tyson was strong, but he wasn't a George. While it's impossible to compare the strength of the 2, it should be safe to say George hit as hard as anyone.

Tyson Vs Foreman in his prime, I think George takes it.
 
Sugar Ray Robinson > both of them.

Robinson was 85-0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout, 40 in the first round. He turned professional in 1940 at the age of 19 and by 1951 had a professional record of 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts.
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Muhammad Ali, who repeatedly called himself "The Greatest" throughout his career, ranked Robinson as the greatest boxer of all time. Other Hall of Fame boxers such as Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Leonard said the same.
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Originally posted by: Woosta
Sugar Ray Robinson > both of them.

Robinson was 85-0 as an amateur with 69 of those victories coming by way of knockout, 40 in the first round. He turned professional in 1940 at the age of 19 and by 1951 had a professional record of 128-1-2 with 84 knockouts.
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Muhammad Ali, who repeatedly called himself "The Greatest" throughout his career, ranked Robinson as the greatest boxer of all time. Other Hall of Fame boxers such as Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Leonard said the same.
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But, Robinson was a little guy.

Big guys beat up little guys, hence weight classifications.
 
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