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Mugabe uses tried and true scare tactics to rile up his base

Dari

Lifer
When the killings, beatings, 20% EMPLOYMENT, and 200,000% INFLATION isn't enough to keep the populace pliant, you can always resort to anger to get out the votes. Sensing his defeat in the presidential election, Mugabe unleashes the goons to bring xenophobia to an acceptable level. That Hitler look suits him well.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7333918.stm

Mugabe warns of white land battle

Zimbabwe's President, Robert Mugabe, has called on its black population to ensure that white farmers do not regain the land seized from them, reports say.


Mr Mugabe said black Zimbabweans could not afford to "retreat in the battle for land", the Herald newspaper said.

On Friday war veterans' leader Jabulani Sibanda accused white farmers of reoccupying farms allocated to blacks.

The comments came as opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai said he had defeated Mr Mugabe in the presidential election.

A High Court judge has said he will rule on Monday on a petition by the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) demanding the immediate release of the results.

The judge said he would first consider an argument by the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission (ZEC) that his court did not have jurisdiction.

'Trespassing'

In an article published on Monday, the state-run Herald newspaper quoted Mr Mugabe as saying Zimbabwe's black population had to protect from white farmers the land for which thousands died during the independence war in the 1970s.

"Land must remain in our hands. The land is ours, it must not be allowed to slip back into the hands of whites," he told people attending the funeral of his wife's uncle.

"We cannot afford to retreat in the battle for land," he added.

In 2000, there were 4,000 white farmers working on much of the best land in Zimbabwe. Just 300 now remain after a campaign of often violent land seizures initiated by the government's land resettlement programme.

Mr Mugabe's comments came after the leader of the War Veterans' Association accused white farmers of reoccupying farms allocated to blacks, and of telling other black farmers to leave or else face the wrath of an "incoming MDC government".

"Those white people trespassing on the small-scale and medium-scale farms should know that it is an invasion of our country," Mr Sibanda told reporters on Friday.

"We will defend our sovereignty. We will be compelled to repel that invasion," he added. "These are all provocations against us freedom fighters."

A spokesman for Mr Mugabe's ruling Zanu-PF party, Patrick Chinamasa, said the MDC had been "unleashing former white farmers on farms occupied by new farmers to reverse the land reform programme".

But the chief of executive of the Commercial Farmers' Union, Hendrick Olivier, told the BBC that war veterans had invaded eight farms in the southern province of Masvingo since Saturday. State television said at least one farm had been seized.

Mr Olivier said the invasions may have been a consequence of the statement made by Mr Sibanda and said his union had urged the authorities to stabilise the situation.

High court decision

On Sunday, after a hearing lasting almost four hours, High Court judge Tendai Uchena adjourned to consider whether it has the authority to order the release of the delayed results of the presidential election nine days ago.

The Zanu-PF has asked the ZEC for a further delay in declaring the results because of what it called "errors and miscalculations" in their compilation.

But the MDC has said the ruling party wants the delay to help Mr Mugabe find a way to cling to power. Its leader has claimed victory and called on the president to step down to allow a peaceful handover of power.

"It's ridiculous and absurd to talk of a recount before you know what the result is," Mr Tsvangirai said on Sunday.

"What we know is that within 48 hours, you can ask for a recount at the voting station. In this case, the results have already been collected at all voting stations, so what kind of a recount are they talking about?" he asked.

"It will not only be illegal, but it will be totally impractical to do so."

The ZEC has declared the final results of last week's Senate election. It said the Zanu-PF had won 30 seats, with the combined opposition taking the same number.

In the lower house, opposition parties took 109 seats, while the Zanu-PF won just 97 - the first time it has failed to win a majority since independence.

Mr Mugabe came to power 28 years ago on a wave of optimism.

But in recent years Zimbabwe has been plagued by the world's highest inflation, as well as acute food and fuel shortages, which correspondents say have driven many voters to back the opposition.
 
Getting anger out of voters in the U.S. worked for the G.O.P. - why wouldn't it work for Mugabe as well.....

/wot you wants to do about it, OP?
//would you likes to go and fights in Zimbabwe?
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Whites can move down to South Africa, leave them alone with there failed state.

Same thing happened in Soth Africa. They kicked the white farmers off their land and gave it to blacks. Of course they now are asking for whites to come back as their crops have been horriable since being taken over.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: RichardE
Whites can move down to South Africa, leave them alone with there failed state.

Same thing happened in Soth Africa. They kicked the white farmers off their land and gave it to blacks. Of course they now are asking for whites to come back as their crops have been horriable since being taken over.

SA is doing much better than Zimbabwe. Never heard of white being kicked of the land in SA.
 
so arent the white farmers citizens of Zimbabwe or one can only be black to be a citizen and have rights?
 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: RichardE
Whites can move down to South Africa, leave them alone with there failed state.

Same thing happened in Soth Africa. They kicked the white farmers off their land and gave it to blacks. Of course they now are asking for whites to come back as their crops have been horriable since being taken over.

SA is doing much better than Zimbabwe. Never heard of white being kicked of the land in SA.

Both countries are in the crapper. Look at violent crime stats for South Africa. You won't find a crappier nuclear power. Even Pakistan is a better place.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: RichardE
Whites can move down to South Africa, leave them alone with there failed state.

Same thing happened in Soth Africa. They kicked the white farmers off their land and gave it to blacks. Of course they now are asking for whites to come back as their crops have been horriable since being taken over.

SA is doing much better than Zimbabwe. Never heard of white being kicked of the land in SA.

Both countries are in the crapper. Look at violent crime stats for South Africa. You won't find a crappier nuclear power. Even Pakistan is a better place.

You obviously haven't been to Pakistan or South Africa.
 
Originally posted by: Citrix
so arent the white farmers citizens of Zimbabwe or one can only be black to be a citizen and have rights?

Of course the white citizens deserve and have rights and Mugabe should be criticized.
But one would have to remember how those same white citizens came by their farmlands in Zimbabwe aka Rhodesia.

White colonial settlers drove out the blacks from their lands by killing and expropriation which also happens to be the most arable and fertile because its where indigenous people like to live and farm in the first place. Blacks were pushed off to live in scrubby tsetse infested areas. So the white 0.5% managed to end up with 70% of the land with black people working for them just to survive. A similar story happened with South Africa and Namibia.

After independence in 1980, the whites still mantained a hegemonic presence with little political land reform. This situation had all the ingredients of a violent meltdown taking place.

This link http://www.progress.org/2003/monbiot1.htm has more info and background on the issue in Zimbabwe.

 
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: RichardE
Whites can move down to South Africa, leave them alone with there failed state.

Same thing happened in Soth Africa. They kicked the white farmers off their land and gave it to blacks. Of course they now are asking for whites to come back as their crops have been horriable since being taken over.

SA is doing much better than Zimbabwe. Never heard of white being kicked of the land in SA.

Both countries are in the crapper. Look at violent crime stats for South Africa. You won't find a crappier nuclear power. Even Pakistan is a better place.

You obviously haven't been to Pakistan or South Africa.

I don't see why I'd want to go to a country on the verge of being an Islamic republic, or a country where you are gauranteed to be robbed at gunpoint in your lifetime, and if you're a woman, you're gauranteed to be raped in your lifetime. Neither of those places really appeal to me.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: RichardE
Whites can move down to South Africa, leave them alone with there failed state.

Same thing happened in Soth Africa. They kicked the white farmers off their land and gave it to blacks. Of course they now are asking for whites to come back as their crops have been horriable since being taken over.

SA is doing much better than Zimbabwe. Never heard of white being kicked of the land in SA.

Both countries are in the crapper. Look at violent crime stats for South Africa. You won't find a crappier nuclear power. Even Pakistan is a better place.

You obviously haven't been to Pakistan or South Africa.

I don't see why I'd want to go to a country on the verge of being an Islamic republic, or a country where you are gauranteed to be robbed at gunpoint in your lifetime, and if you're a woman, you're gauranteed to be raped in your lifetime. Neither of those places really appeal to me.

First of all, SA is not a nuclear power, having disavowed nuclear weapons when blacks came to power. Second, you claim that Pakistan is a better place. If you believe both of your statements to be true, prove it. Considering that the latter is subjective, you may care to give preferences, which, as a westerner, is better for you: Getting robbed at gunpoint or getting beheaded?
 
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Getting anger out of voters in the U.S. worked for the G.O.P. - why wouldn't it work for Mugabe as well.....

/wot you wants to do about it, OP?
//would you likes to go and fights in Zimbabwe?


That is childish to compare the two. That's like me saying The Dems Scare Old voters about medicare. While they do scare them about it comparing that to a Killer like Mugbe is rediculous.
 
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Getting anger out of voters in the U.S. worked for the G.O.P. - why wouldn't it work for Mugabe as well.....

/wot you wants to do about it, OP?
//would you likes to go and fights in Zimbabwe?


That is childish to compare the two. That's like me saying The Dems Scare Old voters about medicare. While they do scare them about it comparing that to a Killer like Mugbe is rediculous.

Well, its true though.
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Getting anger out of voters in the U.S. worked for the G.O.P. - why wouldn't it work for Mugabe as well.....

/wot you wants to do about it, OP?
//would you likes to go and fights in Zimbabwe?


That is childish to compare the two. That's like me saying The Dems Scare Old voters about medicare. While they do scare them about it comparing that to a Killer like Mugbe is rediculous.

Well, its true though.

Nope the Liberals are all about redistribution of wealth and Ceasing private property to build wal-marts or what have you. that is closer to this story. In Zim they scare you And take your Land.
 
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: EXman
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Getting anger out of voters in the U.S. worked for the G.O.P. - why wouldn't it work for Mugabe as well.....

/wot you wants to do about it, OP?
//would you likes to go and fights in Zimbabwe?


That is childish to compare the two. That's like me saying The Dems Scare Old voters about medicare. While they do scare them about it comparing that to a Killer like Mugbe is rediculous.

Well, its true though.

Nope the Liberals are all about redistribution of wealth and Ceasing private property to build wal-marts or what have you. that is closer to this story. In Zim they scare you And take your Land.

Well, yeah 😛
 
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