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"Much of US favors Bush impeachment: poll"

Much of US favors Bush impeachment: poll

Much of US favors Bush impeachment: poll Fri Jul 6, 6:59 PM ET

Nearly half of the US public wants President George W. Bush to face impeachment, and even more favor that fate for Vice President Dick Cheney, according to a poll out Friday.

The survey by the American Research Group found that 45 percent support the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against Bush, with 46 percent opposed, and a 54-40 split in favor when it comes to Cheney.

The study by the private New Hampshire-based ARG canvassed 1,100 Americans by telephone July 3-5 and had an error margin of plus or minus three percentage points. The findings are available on ARG's Internet site.

The White House declined to comment on the poll, the latest bad news for a president who has seen his public opinion standings dragged to record lows by the unpopular war in Iraq.

The US Constitution says presidents and vice presidents can be impeached -- that is, formally charged by the House -- for "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" by a simple majority vote.

Conviction by the Senate, which requires a two-thirds majority, means removal from office.

Just two US presidents have been impeached: Bill Clinton was impeached in 1998 and acquitted in 1999; Andrew Johnson was impeached and acquitted in 1868. Disgraced president Richard Nixon resigned in 1974 when a House impeachment vote appeared likely.

In late April, left-wing Representative Dennis Kucinich, a long-shot Democratic presidential hopeful, introduced a resolution calling for Cheney's impeachment. To date, the measure has nine listed co-sponsors and a 10th set to sign on when the House returns to work next week.

But Democratic leaders appear unlikely to pursue such a course.

As a rule I do not get too excited about the results of one poll and I doubt that Bush or Cheney will get impeached. But it will be interesting to see how the numbers on impeachment track over the next year.

What do you think?
 
I think the Democrats are horribly incapable of holding the Bush administration accountable for their actions. Just as Bush's admin has failed the American people, so have the Democrats.
 
As a long time advocate of the impeachment of GWB&Cheney I am surprised public support is that high. But its a waste of time to start impeachment without the required 67 votes in the Senate. But every day and in everyway GWB&co. are building impeachment support. Hopefully a ongoing congressional investigation will find a whopper of a reason(s)---and once the Senate support is there--there is no reason why impeachment in the house and conviction in the Senate cannot be done very rapidly. The impeachment grounds are already there---but having one or more real smoking guns could really put it over the top and bring it home to the American people.

And GWB can't pardon either Cheney or his own sad and sorry butt.
 
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He wont get impeached. Period. Like it or not thats the way it is.

The fact that (what was it) 41% of the public STILL believes Sadaam had something to do with 9/11, in spite of the fact not ONE major news source nor it's talking heads does anything but deny it...proves the American people, in general, dont know sh1t from shinoble (sp?) about politics.
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
The fact that (what was it) 41% of the public STILL believes Sadaam had something to do with 9/11

Never was that something I believed. Sounds more like a strawman argument made to exaggerate or paint idiocy.

As for impeachment, what, no poll?

Impeachment depends entirely on the replacement. I would be happy to replace our current idiocy, but not with a person who doesn't believe there is a war between us and Islamists. Nor with someone who believes there should be amnesty. Those two are grievous breaches that cannot ever be repaired and the entire reason for my hatred of current officials.

I could argue Bush himself holds dear both traits I adamantly stand opposed to.
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Dick Cheney not only needs to be impeached, he needs to be formally executed for High Treason.
I think if we just cut off the supply of fresh blood from young virgins to him he'd shrivel up and die. No need to waste money and time impeaching him.

As for Bush, well maybe we can arrange a tour of some Pretzel Manufacturer and tell him it's all he can eat. Of course some PNAC wankers will claim it was a terrorist attack by some Middle Eastern Bakers and call for the invasion of all Falafel Shops.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
I think the Democrats are horribly incapable of holding the Bush administration accountable for their actions. Just as Bush's admin has failed the American people, so have the Democrats.

The Democrats do not have enough votes.

 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: blackangst1
The fact that (what was it) 41% of the public STILL believes Sadaam had something to do with 9/11

Never was that something I believed. Sounds more like a strawman argument made to exaggerate or paint idiocy.

As for impeachment, what, no poll?

Impeachment depends entirely on the replacement. I would be happy to replace our current idiocy, but not with a person who doesn't believe there is a war between us and Islamists. Nor with someone who believes there should be amnesty. Those two are grievous breaches that cannot ever be repaired and the entire reason for my hatred of current officials.

I could argue Bush himself holds dear both traits I adamantly stand opposed to.

I rather learn what people think than read the results of a forum poll.

 
Cheney would have to go first, and be promptly replaced before Bush's impeachment. Exchanging W for Dick or both the previous for Pelosi seems a bad deal to me.

Originally posted by: blackangst1
...the American people, in general, dont know sh1t from shinoble (sp?) about politics.
Shinola: a commercial brand of shoe polish popular in the early twentieth century.
 
Originally posted by: CallMeJoe
Cheney would have to go first, and be promptly replaced before Bush's impeachment. Exchanging W for Dick or both the previous for Pelosi seems a bad deal to me.

Originally posted by: blackangst1
...the American people, in general, dont know sh1t from shinoble (sp?) about politics.
Shinola: a commercial brand of shoe polish popular in the early twentieth century.

Pelosi would not become president after Bush and Cheney.
 
The dems don't have enough votes to impeach. Even if they did I don't think they would go through with it.

Cheney might summon the devil to burn the capitol.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
The dems don't have enough votes to impeach. Even if they did I don't think they would go through with it.

Cheney might summon the devil to burn the capitol.

So with all the talk from the Bush apologists about how the D's are as bad as the R's, the simple fact is we can't impeach Bush because the R's would hunker down behind party lines and not seek out the truth.

I really can't wait for the next election, it's going to be really, really quite interesting.
 
Originally posted by: jrenz
Pelosi would not become president after Bush and Cheney.
Presidential Succession Act of 1947 places Speaker of the House (Nancy Pelosi) 2d in line after the VP.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
I think the Democrats are horribly incapable of holding the Bush administration accountable for their actions. Just as Bush's admin has failed the American people, so have the Democrats.

You can't do much when you need 65 votes and you have 50-51.
 
The same was said of Nixon---and the Repubs had the votes to prevent conviction in the Senate. Then the last set of tapes came out---and its was the Repubs that were greasing the skids on Nixon and were falling all over themselves to get rid of Nixon ASAP---Nixon counted the noses and resigned to avoid his certain impeachment and conviction.

As I said before, what missing is that big smoking gun that will galvanize public opinion. And that big smoking gun(s) is out there waiting to be found. When and if its found---"strike while the iron is hot Gridley" impeachment will rule the day. Meanwhile GWB the lame duck is seeing GOP support fade away as his Iraqi brainfart chicken comes home to roost. Slowly the storm clouds gather and we are only in the lull before the storm. The storm may blow over and GWB may run out the clock---but then again he may not.

Its going to depend on future events unseen now. Meanwhile why speculate?
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
I think the Democrats are horribly incapable of holding the Bush administration accountable for their actions. Just as Bush's admin has failed the American people, so have the Democrats.

Agreed. Most of the Dems in Congress have gone along with the Bush admin to the point of being accessories to the crime. It is shameful.
The 2006 election was the American public demanding impeachment and an end to Iraq. It's 9 months later, and nothing's happened.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
I think the Democrats are horribly incapable of holding the Bush administration accountable for their actions. Just as Bush's admin has failed the American people, so have the Democrats.

Agreed. Most of the Dems in Congress have gone along with the Bush admin to the point of being accessories to the crime. It is shameful.
The 2006 election was the American public demanding impeachment and an end to Iraq. It's 9 months later, and nothing's happened.
Get out of here, what they wanted was to riegn in the Dub. This surge bullshit was his last chance and come September if it hasn't worked he'll have to start pulling out.

You can say that the Democrats are accomplices but the voters will pin it directly on the Republicans!

 
The parties are better off focusing on the 2008 primaries. Impeachment is not worth the grief; voters had the chance to vote him out and they didn't.
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
The parties are better off focusing on the 2008 primaries. Impeachment is not worth the grief; voters had the chance to vote him out and they didn't.

The parties will focus on the 08 elections---but impeachment is still the like your crazy aunt locked away in the attic---still lurking up there always present---and in terms of the upcoming primaries---both parties will concern themselves with the 08 elections---and spend no energy worrying about impeachment. But each party has that nuclear option and will use it when circumstances demand it. Already GWB has become the GOP's greatest liability.

And we can somewhat depend on GWB&co. to create the circumstances that demands impeachment. And then impeachment will be well worth the grief.

The voters had not yet wised up to GWB in 04---by 06 they had---and they may well be hopping mad by the time 07 nears an end---and start to demand impeachment in impressive numbers.---numbers even the GOP can't ignore.

GWB&co. is skating on mighty thin ice as their policies fail on all fronts. One more big failure
could could well break that ice. Meanwhile Bush tries to pretend he can walk on water.
 
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