Mubarak to step down

[TareX]

In my mind, the problem with Mubaraks VP lies in the fact that Sulieman has talked and talked and conceded nothing so far.

And if TareX is correct and Mubarak still retains his title without being a decider, will Sulieman start making concessions or not? If concessions are made and fair and free elections can be promptly scheduled, I can see a Egyptian orderly transition to democracy, if Sulieman still stonewalls, then I can only see the demonstrations continuing after it becomes clear the VP is still stonewalling

Mubarak has one goal from today's speech: Divide the people before tomorrow's marches. He won't announce an irreversible step. Some constitutional changes, but nothing that can't be reversed.

 

[Lemon law]

As everyone debates how Obama handled things, my gut tells me the Egyptian army is the entity to get the credit. They somewhat stood on the sidelines early on when Mubarak used the police and various state thugs to violently repress the rebellion. But when Mubarak wanted the army to take the Egyptian blame, the army refused to shoot its own people. But when the protesters start used economic strikes that could cripple the Egyptian economy, the army somewhat had to act. Because no Egyptian economy to support its army, and the Egyptian army falls from within.

And rather than the Egyptian army then supporting Mubarak and violently routing the protesters, the Egyptian army is seeming siding with a orderly transition. But that is just my gueestimate of the situation. And I will also say the Egyptian army will play a role in making sure no Islamic fanatics will rule after the transition. Because the bigger the Egyptian economy becomes, the better to buy its army's the equipment they want.

 

[Throckmorton]

You can watch his speech live here

http://www.youtube.com/aljazeeraenglish?feature=ticker

 

[The-Noid]

WRONG:

Holding elections in September. Not stepping down.

This land is my land, this land is your land, I mean my land.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Military will be taking over initially

CAIRO – Egypt's military announced on national television it had stepped in to secure the country and promised protesters calling for President Hosni Mubarak's ouster that all their demands would soon be met

Link

 

[bfdd]

The media is so stupid with this whole thing (And Obama as well for that matter). There must be change! Change to what? We don't know! But there must be change! Its the will of the people! What is there will, what do they want? Democracy? We don't know! But there must be change and the people must be heard! What are the people saying? We don't know! Lots of things! We're not sure what they want but they must get it and NOW!

There must be change in Egypt because the people there demand it. Who are we to say otherwise? Egypt isn't part of the USA and I support peoples revolutions. Now whatever the outcome is we will deal with it.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Well, its beginning to look like the military will have to remove Mubarak and his cronies for the good of the country. It appears the delusional old dude is determined to hang onto power at all costs.

 

[yllus]

"I've done so much for this country! I never asked to have these responsibilities!" Narcissistic old asshole.

The video feed of Tahrir Square right now is incredibly intense. The people are pissed.

 

[her209]

Well, its beginning to look like the military will have to remove Mubarak and his cronies for the good of the country. It appears the delusional old dude is determined to hang onto power at all costs.

Either that or the protesters march to Mubarak and forcibly remove him.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Either that or the protesters march to Mubarak and forcibly remove him.

:thumbsup: Yep, I imagine if the military would look the other way for a few minutes the angry mob would storm the Palace and dispatch Mr. Mubarak in short order


"This guy is calling for more rage in the country," a protester in Tahrir Square tells CNN's Fred Pleitgen after Mubarak speaks. "This guy doesn't want to leave in peace."

 

[TareX]

The worst possible speech ever.

Summary of the "extra-emotional" speech: I made a temporary -and completely reversible, delegation of authorities to my VP. I submitted a request for constitutional amendments with no guarantees how they will go. I will not end emergency law till people go back home. The protesters are responsible for the economy hit and not my act of terror decisions on Friday 28th. God save Egypt, and peace be with you.

That was just insulting. Tomorrow, there will be a 20 million man march.

 

[yllus]

Al Jazeera is reporting that chants about marching on the presidential palace are occurring right now. CNN is saying that protestors are moving that way now. That said, I don't trust the media to get the facts right on this sort of stuff.

 

[TareX]

Al Jazeera is reporting that chants about marching on the presidential palace are occurring right now. CNN is saying that protestors are moving that way now. That said, I don't trust the media to get the facts right on this sort of stuff.

I live in front of the palace. There is no way the expected millions will fit in Marghany street. There's a reason why this location was chosen for the president's residency, away from downtown and the government buildings.

 

[SunnyD]

Oh geez, shit is gonna hit the international fan now.

 

[sandorski]

Dude needs to go. The People have spoken and it looks like they won't settle for anything else. What happens afterwards is a big unknown, but we in the West can help by at least accepting the Will of the People.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I live in front of the palace. There is no way the expected millions will fit in Marghany street. There's a reason why this location was chosen for the president's residency, away from downtown and the government buildings.

Praying for your safety and the saftey of others in the area, keep us updated and be safe

 

[TareX]

Praying for your safety and the saftey of others in the area, keep us updated and be safe

Well I should be clear, I'm in Halifax Canada, but my family is in Cairo -Heliopolis, right in front of the palace. It's been safe there throughout this entire ordeal.

 

[Narmer]

It will continue to be ruled by terrorists after Mubarak leaves.
In a Muslim society you cannot have a government that is totally secular -- the exception is Turkey!?! Fat chance of that happening!
You don`t think for a minute that your beloved Muslim Brotherhood will sit back and do nothing???

It will continue to be ruled by terrorists after Mubarak leaves....that`s the Muslim way...like it or not!
In a Muslim society you cannot have a government that is totally secular -- the exception is Turkey!! Fat chance of that happening!
You don`t think for a minute that your beloved Muslim Brotherhood will sit back and do nothing???

You're such a douche.

 

[her209]

You're such a douche.

I think it pisses off JEDIYoda that neighboring nations aren't bowing down to Israel's wishes.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

And now Suleiman throws gasoline on the fire, by calling on the young people to go home and return to work for the good of the country

Are these guys truly that out of touch ?

 

[TareX]

Suleiman did the horrible mistake of mentioning the words "sabotage agendas" to describe those driving the protesters. BIG MISTAKE BUDDY.

Till they admit that this regime is responsible for the sabotage that happened in the country after Mubarak's acto of terror on the 28th, and not the protesters, he is placing himself on the wrong side of the line.

Tomorrow will be a very violent day as millions march towards the television building and the presidential palace.

 

[bfdd]

aljazeera.com being hacked/ddos'd?

 

[her209]

aljazeera.com being hacked/ddos'd?

The YouTube channel is working
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=31227087&postcount=28

 

[Sinsear]

Waiting for this to break out in typical muslim savagery.

 

[mizzou]

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