MSNBC-Melissa Harris-Perry says "kids belong to whole communities"

[Don Vito Corleone]

Um, you do realize that IS his name, right? Have we really progressed beyond accurately reporting the left's words being defined as bias to where even using the left's names is being defined as bias?

Plus using his middle name makes proggies a bit crazy. Um, crazier.

I have to say that despite my general appreciation of your posts, your use of the President's middle name in your sig has always lowered my esteem for you somewhat. This post just confirms that I am right to take that view. I think you're better than this kind of trolling, but you don't seem to think so.

 

[Pens1566]

Your an idiot. The US was built on free market principles.

I lol'd

 

[Incorruptible]

This idiot needs to shut-up. I wonder if she would have the courage to tell this to people in front of their faces?

 

[thraashman]

Um, you do realize that IS his name, right? Have we really progressed beyond accurately reporting the left's words being defined as bias to where even using the left's names is being defined as bias?

Plus using his middle name makes proggies a bit crazy. Um, crazier.

The problem is that it's quite clear the reasoning for using his middle name is an attempt to evoke a racial bias. No one referred to Reagan, Clinton, Carter, or George Bush using their middle names. The only reason George W ends up getting a middle name identifier is because he's the second George Bush that was President. Honestly, outside of John Quincy Adams how many Presidents have ever been regularly referred to using their middle name? The answer is none. It's not like we're going to confuse Barack Obama with some other Barack Obama. But no, his middle name is Hussein. It's a foreign sounding middle name that is also the last name of a hated former dictator of Iraq. The only reason righties choose to use his middle name when referring to him is to try to evoke imagery of him being muslim and foreign. It's a cheap and childish tactic deeply rooted in the racism that is so prevalent in the Republican party.

 

[nehalem256]

The problem is that it's quite clear the reasoning for using his middle name is an attempt to evoke a racial bias. No one referred to Reagan, Clinton, Carter, or George Bush using their middle names. The only reason George W ends up getting a middle name identifier is because he's the second George Bush that was President. Honestly, outside of John Quincy Adams how many Presidents have ever been regularly referred to using their middle name? The answer is none. It's not like we're going to confuse Barack Obama with some other Barack Obama. But no, his middle name is Hussein. It's a foreign sounding middle name that is also the last name of a hated former dictator of Iraq. The only reason righties choose to use his middle name when referring to him is to try to evoke imagery of him being muslim and foreign. It's a cheap and childish tactic deeply rooted in the racism that is so prevalent in the Republican party.

Why do you jump to racism? Portraying your opponent as "foreign" is a highly effective strategy. Why do you think the Democrats brought up Romney's wealth so much? It was to make him seem "foreign" in terms of socioeconomic class.

And the fact that when you hear Hussein you think of Saddam Hussein is gravy.

Its a simple and effective advertising strategy.

EDIT: It should be obvious why your cries of racism are misplaced. When you think of Hussein you think Arab. Barack Obama is not arab.

 

[SheHateMe]

This idiot needs to shut-up. I wonder if she would have the courage to tell this to people in front of their faces?

You sure do have a track record of calling people more accomplished (both intellectually and career-wise) than you "idiots".

 

[shortylickens]

If kids truly belong to the whole community then I want a vote in who gets to have kids and how many and when and where.

If you wont let me have authority then I damn sure dont want accountability or responsibility. Thats a sure fire recipe for disaster and it amazes me how many people never learned this lesson in school or the work force.

 

[Incorruptible]

You sure do have a track record of calling people more accomplished (both intellectually and career-wise) than you "idiots".

She isn't more accomplished than me but is just a political hack and moron. She is an idiot for what she said and so are you for defending her.

Would you be alright if she said that your kids belong to the state?

 

[thraashman]

Why do you jump to racism? Portraying your opponent as "foreign" is a highly effective strategy. Why do you think the Democrats brought up Romney's wealth so much? It was to make him seem "foreign" in terms of socioeconomic class.

And the fact that when you hear Hussein you think of Saddam Hussein is gravy.

Its a simple and effective advertising strategy.

EDIT: It should be obvious why your cries of racism are misplaced. When you think of Hussein you think Arab. Barack Obama is not arab.

This is off topic from this thread so this will be my last response about this. It's not secret that the Republican party has in the last 40 years used racism as a strategy. The concept was spelled out directly by Nixon and has been pretty handily adhered to. Most people when they think Muslim, they think Arab. A sickeningly large percentage of Republicans think the President is Muslim (sickening because of the ignorance, I personally have zero issue with Islam itself). So using his middle name to try to evoke imagery of Arab and Muslim is a direct attempt to evoke hatred by people who fear and hate Muslims (your Incorruptibles of the world). You STILL have birthers in this country, and if anyone claims that birtherism is rooted in anything but playing on racist fears, THEY ARE LYING. And yes, you are right in that it IS an effective strategy. It's a xenophobic and racist strategy, but effective.

And not everyone in the Republican party is racist. Not all racists are in the Republican party. Most racist white people vote Republican by a large margin. The GOP leadership knows this and is happy to play on it. And the GOP faithful will either eat it up because they're racist, ignore it because they're the GOP faithful, or defend it as not racist because they're intentionally turning a blind eye to the despicable behavior.

 

[SheHateMe]

She isn't more accomplished than me but is just a political hack and moron.

You say that about everybody.

She is an idiot for what she said and so are you for defending her.

Overused insult.

Would you be alright if she said that your kids belong to the state?

What she said was blown out of proportion. She could have stated it better, but her message was understandable regardless.

Of course, people like you who can't think for themselves will just run off and read some blog about what she said and then come back here and regurgitate what you just read and pretend like those are original thoughts.

 

[werepossum]

The problem is that it's quite clear the reasoning for using his middle name is an attempt to evoke a racial bias. No one referred to Reagan, Clinton, Carter, or George Bush using their middle names. The only reason George W ends up getting a middle name identifier is because he's the second George Bush that was President. Honestly, outside of John Quincy Adams how many Presidents have ever been regularly referred to using their middle name? The answer is none. It's not like we're going to confuse Barack Obama with some other Barack Obama. But no, his middle name is Hussein. It's a foreign sounding middle name that is also the last name of a hated former dictator of Iraq. The only reason righties choose to use his middle name when referring to him is to try to evoke imagery of him being muslim and foreign. It's a cheap and childish tactic deeply rooted in the racism that is so prevalent in the Republican party.

Um, it's the last name of about half the Middle East's ruling families, not just a hated (now deceased) dictator. It also cuts across racial lines, being a very popular Muslim name from the martyr Hussein ibn Ali, so anywhere there are Muslim parents you'll find that name. But thank you for playing the race card.

I actually took it out of my quote for a time, but after seeing so many proggies making smears of conservative's names I put it back in.

If kids truly belong to the whole community then I want a vote in who gets to have kids and how many and when and where.

If you wont let me have authority then I damn sure dont want accountability or responsibility. Thats a sure fire recipe for disaster and it amazes me how many people never learned this lesson in school or the work force.

LOL A very good point.

 

[Incorruptible]

What she said was blown out of proportion. She could have stated it better, but her message was understandable regardless.

Of course, people like you who can't think for themselves will just run off and read some blog about what she said and then come back here and regurgitate what you just read and pretend like those are original thoughts.

No it wasn't. She actually believes that. This is their mindset and she also said that education and healthcare are rights which she is totally wrong.

 

[Incorruptible]

This is off topic from this thread so this will be my last response about this. It's not secret that the Republican party has in the last 40 years used racism as a strategy. The concept was spelled out directly by Nixon and has been pretty handily adhered to. Most people when they think Muslim, they think Arab. A sickeningly large percentage of Republicans think the President is Muslim (sickening because of the ignorance, I personally have zero issue with Islam itself). So using his middle name to try to evoke imagery of Arab and Muslim is a direct attempt to evoke hatred by people who fear and hate Muslims (your Incorruptibles of the world). You STILL have birthers in this country, and if anyone claims that birtherism is rooted in anything but playing on racist fears, THEY ARE LYING. And yes, you are right in that it IS an effective strategy. It's a xenophobic and racist strategy, but effective.

And not everyone in the Republican party is racist. Not all racists are in the Republican party. Most racist white people vote Republican by a large margin. The GOP leadership knows this and is happy to play on it. And the GOP faithful will either eat it up because they're racist, ignore it because they're the GOP faithful, or defend it as not racist because they're intentionally turning a blind eye to the despicable behavior.

I don't hate Muslims. Would you have the courage to say that to my face? NO. I have done a lot to help Muslims.

 

[SheHateMe]

I don't hate Muslims. Would you have the courage to say that to my face? NO. I have done a lot to help Muslims.

What are you going to do to him if he does?


And what have you done to help Muslims? All you ever do here is complain about how they are trying to take over the Earth, wipe out Christianity, are radical, etc. So I can only imagine what "help" you are giving them away from the keyboard.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

You sure do have a track record of calling people more accomplished (both intellectually and career-wise) than you "idiots".

I have hand calculators that are more intellectually accomplished than he is.

 

[Incorruptible]

What are you going to do to him if he does?


And what have you done to help Muslims? All you ever do here is complain about how they are trying to take over the Earth, wipe out Christianity, are radical, etc. So I can only imagine what "help" you are giving them away from the keyboard.

I just want to see if he has the courage but I would debate and argue my points and show him I am not a racist. Debating on a street or face to face is a lot harder than hiding behind a computer and spewing out BS which can't be called out.

I would have evidence and would easily destroy him in a debate.

Do you have any evidence?

I attack RADICAL MUSLIMS NOT MODERATE MUSLIMS. BY ACCUSING ME OF HATING MUSLIMS YOU ARE LUMPING TOGETHER THE MODERATES WITH THE RADICALS AND THUS YOU ARE AN ISLAMOPHOBE

 

[nehalem256]

If kids truly belong to the whole community then I want a vote in who gets to have kids and how many and when and where.

If you wont let me have authority then I damn sure dont want accountability or responsibility. Thats a sure fire recipe for disaster and it amazes me how many people never learned this lesson in school or the work force.

Isn't funny that the progressives who think kids belong to the whole community throw a fit about expecting parents to pay attention to the schooling of our kids?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2313807 :hmm:

 

[zinfamous]

I have to say that despite my general appreciation of your posts, your use of the President's middle name in your sig has always lowered my esteem for you somewhat. This post just confirms that I am right to take that view. I think you're better than this kind of trolling, but you don't seem to think so.

I wonder how many of them ever referred to other POTUS thusly:

--William Jefferson Clinton (or how about Bill Jefferson Clinton?)
--George H W Bush (while serving as president)
--Ronald Wilson Reagan
--James Earl Carter (or Jimmy Earl Carter)

etc...

I'm willing to bet that this was never done, and only dubya was ever distinguished with G "W" Bush simply because he was the second Bush.

The defense of "I am just using his middle name, why do you have a problem with that?" is woefully inadequate, and blatantly obtuse.

Yes, it is clear that such people obviously have a fear that President Obama is "not one of them," is possibly a terrorist, possibly a muslim sympathizer willing to do anything to slide this country into some sort of anti-Christian caliphate, or to simply run this country as a secular dictatorship like Saddam. It is hilarious, really. There is no honest defense of the usage that does not color the user of the term as, at best, a paranoid bigot.

No other president's middle name ever elicited such endemic and unfounded paranoia.

 

[Incorruptible]

I wonder how many of them ever referred to other POTUS thusly:

--William Jefferson Clinton (or how about Bill Jefferson Clinton?)
--George H W Bush (while serving as president)
--Ronald Wilson Reagan
--James Earl Carter (or Jimmy Earl Carter)

etc...

I'm willing to bet that this was never done, and only dubya was ever distinguished with G "W" Bush simply because he was the second Bush.

The defense of "I am just using his middle name, why do you have a problem with that?" is woefully inadequate, and blatantly obtuse.

Yes, it is clear that such people obviously have a fear that President Obama is "not one of them," is possibly a terrorist, possibly a muslim sympathizer willing to do anything to slide this country into some sort of anti-Christian caliphate, or to simply run this country as a secular dictatorship like Saddam. It is hilarious, really. There is no honest defense of the usage that does not color the user of the term as, at best, a paranoid bigot.

No other president's middle name ever elicited such endemic and unfounded paranoia.

And yet it's perfectly alright for obama to use the class warfare rhetoric. Attacking the rich to try to provoke anger at them.

 

[nehalem256]

Yes, it is clear that such people obviously have a fear that President Obama is "not one of them," is possibly a terrorist, possibly a muslim sympathizer willing to do anything to slide this country into some sort of anti-Christian caliphate, or to simply run this country as a secular dictatorship like Saddam. It is hilarious, really. There is no honest defense of the usage that does not color the user of the term as, at best, a paranoid bigot.

No other president's middle name ever elicited such endemic and unfounded paranoia.

And this is the exact same reason that the Democrats were obsessed with Romney's wealth.

 

[jackstar7]

And this is the exact same reason that the Democrats were obsessed with Romney's wealth.

Fact. The rich are always being "otherized" and dejected.

 

[thraashman]

I don't hate Muslims. Would you have the courage to say that to my face? NO. I have done a lot to help Muslims.

If I were ever unlucky enough to have to deal with someone like you in person I would gladly call them out for their despicable behavior. For you to say you only hate radical Muslims is bull considering your posting history as to what you've hated on that is Muslim. Such as well-performing Muslim students who wanted a few minutes to pray as is required by their religion being allowed a few minutes outside of class so as not to be disruptive. And considering how much you've defended radical Christian behavior in the past, it shows you have an undue hatred for Muslims in general.

 

[thraashman]

And this is the exact same reason that the Democrats were obsessed with Romney's wealth.

Romney's wealth wasn't his problem. It was his inability to empathize with those that didn't have wealth. He showed a clear disconnect from the reality that most people in this nation face. And that's because he's always been wealthy. You don't see the same disconnect from all those who are wealthy like you did with Romney. Bush 2 was fairly wealthy himself but he was able to relate to the common person better even though he himself was brought up quite privileged.

 

[Incorruptible]

If I were ever unlucky enough to have to deal with someone like you in person I would gladly call them out for their despicable behavior. For you to say you only hate radical Muslims is bull considering your posting history as to what you've hated on that is Muslim. Such as well-performing Muslim students who wanted a few minutes to pray as is required by their religion being allowed a few minutes outside of class so as not to be disruptive. And considering how much you've defended radical Christian behavior in the past, it shows you have an undue hatred for Muslims in general.

Ever heard of seperation of Church and state? Allowing the students to pray in school is a bad idea.

When did I defend "radical" Christians?

 

[SheHateMe]

if i were ever unlucky enough to have to deal with someone like you in person i would gladly call them out for their despicable behavior. For you to say you only hate radical muslims is bull considering your posting history as to what you've hated on that is muslim. Such as well-performing muslim students who wanted a few minutes to pray as is required by their religion being allowed a few minutes outside of class so as not to be disruptive. And considering how much you've defended radical christian behavior in the past, it shows you have an undue hatred for muslims in general.

Yea but...

HE ATTACKS RADICAL MUSLIMS NOT MODERATE MUSLIMS. BY ACCUSING HIM OF HATING MUSLIMS YOU ARE LUMPING TOGETHER THE MODERATES WITH THE RADICALS AND THUS YOU ARE AN ISLAMOPHOBE