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MSNBC babe pwns her self big time

It's not the first time that smug bitch made a fool of herself on air, probably won't be the last.
 
All I think this does is show that this Congressman either forgot most of what he learned in his economics classes or is letting his partisanship usurp his education. You generally don't expect people who have no idea what they're talking about to have a degree in what it is they're getting wrong.
 
woolfe9999 said:
I find myself in rare agreement with PJ on this. It was self-ownage. Too bad she has no legal training or she would have learned that you never ask a question that you don't already know the answer to.
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She's works in the news, she's not a lawyer. You're allowed to ask questions.
 
Infohawk said:
She's works in the news, she's not a lawyer. You're allowed to ask questions.
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Yes true in general, but, in context, the question was rhetorical. It was intended to make the point that he didn't know what he was talking about, and it backfired. This is what happens when the journalist tries to play advocate. If they're going to assume that role, they'd do well to learn how to do it right.

It IS worth mentioning here that the Congressman is a complete idiot for believing we weren't headed into a recession. It's rather stunning stupidity. Which makes it doubly unfortunate that she unwittingly bolstered his credibility.
 
woolfe9999 said:
It IS worth mentioning here that the Congressman is a complete idiot for believing we weren't headed into a recession. It's rather stunning stupidity. Which makes it doubly unfortunate that she unwittingly bolstered his credibility.
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The context was spending.

She is trying to claim that Obama had to spend all that money to keep us from going into a depression.

He is claiming that we did not have to spend all that extra money.

Considering how much debt we have pilled on in the last two years and what little we have to show for it he might have a point.
 
ProfJohn said:
The context was spending.

She is trying to claim that Obama had to spend all that money to keep us from going into a depression.

He is claiming that we did not have to spend all that extra money.

Considering how much debt we have pilled on in the last two years and what little we have to show for it he might have a point.
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Kinda like how you said "What recession?" right?

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ProfJohn said:
The context was spending.

She is trying to claim that Obama had to spend all that money to keep us from going into a depression.

He is claiming that we did not have to spend all that extra money.

Considering how much debt we have pilled on in the last two years and what little we have to show for it he might have a point.
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That point is of course debatable, and opinions will inevitably split on party lines. However, it wasn't that broader point that prompted her question. What prompted it was him saying we weren't headed into a depression. If you really think that wasn't our trajectory, then fine. I think it was a foolish assertion. It's one thing to disagree about solutions, quite another to minimize the problem to begin with.
 
woolfe9999 said:
That point is of course debatable, and opinions will inevitably split on party lines. However, it wasn't that broader point that prompted her question. What prompted it was him saying we weren't headed into a depression. If you really think that wasn't our trajectory, then fine. I think it was a foolish assertion. It's one thing to disagree about solutions, quite another to minimize the problem to begin with.
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Well, in fairness, there's a bit of a difference between a depression and a recession.

Were we headed into a recession, well yeah. A depression? Compared with the severity of THE depression, I don't think that's quite the same.
 
Atreus21 said:
Well, in fairness, there's a bit of a difference between a depression and a recession.

Were we headed into a recession, well yeah. A depression? Compared with the severity of THE depression, I don't think that's quite the same.
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We weren't "headed" into a recession. We were already in one. In fact, we had been in one since well before the September crash. The trajectory of job loss was frightening. I don't know the textbook definition of depression. I think it actually varies. However, it is indisputable that our circumstances were extremely dire and getting worse by the day. What the congressman was trying to do here was minimize the magnitude of the plight were were in. Apparently, he isn't confidence enough in his argument that government spending wasn't the right solution so he had to try minimizing the problem.
 
Atreus21 said:
Well, in fairness, there's a bit of a difference between a depression and a recession.

Were we headed into a recession, well yeah. A depression? Compared with the severity of THE depression, I don't think that's quite the same.
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Yeah we were. The stock market hit a low of 6,700 in March 09. Everyone thought the megabanks were going to fail due to undercapitalization. Congress had to up the limit on insured deposits to $250,000 so people with over the $100,000 wouldn't start pulling money for fear of losing it. The car manufacturers were going to go under and wipe out millions of jobs related to the car industry. Consumer confidence hit an all time low in Feb 09 (link). Remember the credit freeze?

EDIT: Those aren't normal recession type-events.
 
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So he is a Republican that admits he knows all about Economics and admits he is part of the destruction of America.

That's progress.
 
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