MSN Messenger will soon not be working with 3'rd party IM progams, like Trillian...

[NuclearFusi0n]

Gaim > *

 

[Indolent]

I coulda swore this was a repost, but I think it would have been said by now. Maybe I was reading about this somewhere else.

Anyway, This doesn't effect Trillian v2 beta because it is already using the newest msn protocol.

Trillian forum info...

 

[Slugbait]

I vaguely remember something about AOL doing this several times over to various IM products in the past, and I believe that AOL was forced by the courts to provide interoperability with other clients.

The simple fact that, years later, AOL doesn't provide interoperability with other clients only goes to prove that the courts didn't force ANYTHING on AOL.

So yeah, your memory is vague. And the link to the article you posted is more than four years old...that's 36 years in Internet time. The landscape changed dramatically since the last time you logged on.

 

[Staples]

Hopefully they will now integrate your Xbox Live friends list with messenger. Xbox Live Web (I think it is called) launches on Monday and you will now be able to check your friends list online and you can not get invitations at your PC. I have been waiting for this forever but they really need at least a one way messeging system (this is where MSN Messenger comes into play).

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: Slugbait

I vaguely remember something about AOL doing this several times over to various IM products in the past, and I believe that AOL was forced by the courts to provide interoperability with other clients.

The simple fact that, years later, AOL doesn't provide interoperability with other clients only goes to prove that the courts didn't force ANYTHING on AOL.

So yeah, your memory is vague. And the link to the article you posted is more than four years old...that's 36 years in Internet time. The landscape changed dramatically since the last time you logged on.

Cool, so the internet is like a dog now?

 

[Slugbait]

Cool, so the internet is like a dog now?

No, not all of a sudden...it's been this way since Navigator was released, and shows no signs of slowing down. If you don't keep up, you end up living in the past and posting links to four-year old stories that bear little or no resemblence to current events.

 

[Zenmervolt]

I've never had any issues with Trillian, it has always worked flawlessly for me, but then again I don't ask a lot of it. I simply use it for IM on AIM and MSN. I leave checking my mail for programs like Outlook. I started using Trillian because it kept a logfile, granted you can now do that with the other clients, but why bother to run two instances of software when I don't need to?

ZV

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Um, I believe Microsoft can and will be challenged on this in some way shape or form. (Without any research...) I vaguely remember something about AOL doing this several times over to various IM products in the past, and I believe that AOL was forced by the courts to provide interoperability with other clients. I may be remembering some of the details wrong here though, don't quote me.

Yeah um you're wrong, the courts didnt force AOL to let other 3rd party messenger apps onto their networks. And again, you really need to read the article. Is not UP to MS to make these 3rd party apps compatible with their current software, its the 3rd party developers job. If Trillian, et al dont work come Oct 15, its their own fault, they will have had plenty of time, and help from MS to get their apps working with MS's forced upgrade.

 

[QueBert]

Trillian love is crap! haha excellent.

I use Trillian because it works for me, I've never had it crash or not work. if I used the real IM's to chat with my friends, I'd be using 3 different programs to chat with all of 4 people. Having everything work with 1 program saves a lot of desktop space, and a lot of memory. I find the MSN program to be sh!t, Yahoo Messenger is pretty cool. I cannot stand AIM. Trillian had some issues 2-3 updates ago. But look how long it's been since they'd had to release a patch. In the same time my Yahoo has told me about 3 "critical" updates, and AIM I've had to upgrade twice, according to them.

Trillian is a god send, and with my custom skin/layout, it looks exactly like I want it.

but some people like apples, others oranges. Nothing is perfect for everybody

 

[datalink7]

Wow... a lot of hate of Trillian in this thread.

I love it. I haven't found any bugs and haven't had any connectivity problems with it since Pro was released.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Um, I believe Microsoft can and will be challenged on this in some way shape or form. (Without any research...) I vaguely remember something about AOL doing this several times over to various IM products in the past, and I believe that AOL was forced by the courts to provide interoperability with other clients. I may be remembering some of the details wrong here though, don't quote me.

Yeah um you're wrong, the courts didnt force AOL to let other 3rd party messenger apps onto their networks. And again, you really need to read the article. Is not UP to MS to make these 3rd party apps compatible with their current software, its the 3rd party developers job. If Trillian, et al dont work come Oct 15, its their own fault, they will have had plenty of time, and help from MS to get their apps working with MS's forced upgrade.

something tells me MS wouldn't be much "HELP" to the Trillain team if they wanted/needed it. I just don't see them throwing any bones to a competors product. I don't care what a judge told them to do. Or what Bill "says" he will do.
AOL d!cked Trillian around by blocking access about 3 times. Each one Trillian had a patch out within days. I imagine if there's any problems they will find a work around hella quick...

 

[gopunk]

i don't know why you guys don't like trillian so much, it works fine for me. maybe you're not doing it right.

 

[Slugbait]

something tells me MS wouldn't be much "HELP" to the Trillain team if they wanted/needed it. I just don't see them throwing any bones to a competors product. I don't care what a judge told them to do. Or what Bill "says" he will do.

You're not paying attention...MS has not yet locked down their servers, but Trillian has already released a beta that will work fine when it happens.

In other words, MS was much "HELP" to the Trillian team, and threw them a bone. There was no judge telling them to do it, either.

 

[dawks]

I like the idea of Trillian, and I like how its a farily small program (memory use wise). My problem with it, I just cant get used to it. I dont like the feel of it for some reason. It just doesnt seem 'right'. shrug.

I dont see why Trillian wont be able to simply upgrade their software to be more compatible with 'the new' MSN Messenger system..

Back a while ago, Microsoft proposed to AOL that they share there messenger protocols so the messenger programs could interoperate, AOL didnt want anything to do with it. AOL Sucks!

 

[Dragon365]

I will continue to hoist the Miranda IM flag, it is much better than trillian

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Um, I believe Microsoft can and will be challenged on this in some way shape or form. (Without any research...) I vaguely remember something about AOL doing this several times over to various IM products in the past, and I believe that AOL was forced by the courts to provide interoperability with other clients. I may be remembering some of the details wrong here though, don't quote me.

Yeah um you're wrong, the courts didnt force AOL to let other 3rd party messenger apps onto their networks. And again, you really need to read the article. Is not UP to MS to make these 3rd party apps compatible with their current software, its the 3rd party developers job. If Trillian, et al dont work come Oct 15, its their own fault, they will have had plenty of time, and help from MS to get their apps working with MS's forced upgrade.

something tells me MS wouldn't be much "HELP" to the Trillain team if they wanted/needed it. I just don't see them throwing any bones to a competors product. I don't care what a judge told them to do. Or what Bill "says" he will do.
AOL d!cked Trillian around by blocking access about 3 times. Each one Trillian had a patch out within days. I imagine if there's any problems they will find a work around hella quick...

MS waiting till Oct 15 to do their forced upgrade is helping 3rd party apps. It allows things to go smoothly. MS could just do the forced upgrade now and cause a mess for 3rd party developers.

 

[jaydee]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Angrymarshmello
It's just another way for MS haters to b1tch.

I run Messenger and AIM on both of my machines. I hate Trillian.

Trillian = pain in the ass

Don't blame Trillian because you suck at the internet.