MSI X58 Pro - i7 920D0 - OCZ Gold 3*1 1600MHZ Freeze problem.

[playboywithamobo]

After updating the BIOS to v7.3 for using rams in 1600mhz, my comp is freezing too much. especially today it freezed 2 times in 5 mins. I don't know why but I set my rams frequency to 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 in 1.65v 2T . Dram:FSB Ratio is 2:8 . Doesn't my mobo support OCZ Gold Kit or is it another problem ? In Prime test it restarts pc after 5 mins. Before BIOS Update it was impossible to use OCZ in 1600 mhz, it was running in 1066 tri channel without any problem. After starting to run in 1600mhz caused freeze problem. Using Vista 64 Bit. I'm gonna hate MSI soon.

MEMTEST 86 v2.11 Bootable has been running for 70mins with 3 passes 0 Errors. So there ain't no problem in RAM. My Mobo causes this idiot thing I guess. I see lots of tests and reviews on internet about OCZ Gold 3*1 1600 kit used with MSI X58 PRO w/o any problem.
What it might be then ?


Also I'm trying to update my v7.3 to latest v8.2 including SLI support. as you already know all MSI Boards officially support SLI after the latest BIOS releases. and also this version includes more memory module compatibility. That's why I want to update it.. I freshly format my USB stick and Extract the v8.2 files into the usb. then I enter the BIOS and in M-FLASH when I choose BIOS UPDATE it shows Kingston USB DataTraveler .. everything seems ok. When I try to find the BIOS driver there it just shows Partition 0 : NO NAME , ...Medias List/ , ..Previous Folder .. and that's all. I cannot apply the bios driver from M-FLASH . It happened to me when I was updating my BIOS to v7.3 and luckily it saw the driver in the end. now it's happening again. I really need help.

 

[Elganja]

try loosening your timings a bit... like 9-9-9-24

how is your ram running at 1600MHz? what is your uncore, clock mult and bclk set to?

 

[playboywithamobo]

Memory Ratio is set to 6 which means Adjusted DRAM Frequency 1600 , and it automatically sets Uncore Ratio Frequency to 3200MHZ.

I dunno what is BCLK so I cannot answer. TCL TRCD TRP TRAS is set to 8-8-8-24 which is my ram's default setting. in 1.65 it's written on it. My CPU is at clock speed.
So interesting that my rams are using 2-4-6 slots but in Memory SPD information and also in CPU-Z it says that I'm using 1-3-5 numbered DIMMs. totally confusing...

 

[playboywithamobo]

Interestingly, I have reduced my dram freq to 1333mhz and timings to 7-7-7-21 , it's running healthy. when I set my timings and freq to 1600 8-8-8-24 , it freezes.. I need a newer BIOS update I guess.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Hmm I can't seem to update to 8.2 either. Can you give me the model number of your ram?

 

[venkman]

MSI x58 Pro has a SERIOUS problem with Northbridge overheating that is pretty well documented. It is a fairly easy fix though, Either get a active cooler for the heatsink (more expensive) or just apply some fresh arctic silver five.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: venkman
MSI x58 Pro has a SERIOUS problem with Northbridge overheating that is pretty well documented. It is a fairly easy fix though, Either get a active cooler for the heatsink (more expensive) or just apply some fresh arctic silver five.

I've read about that on newegg but my temp maxes out at 70C which isn't bad at all. As long as you're using the stock Intel fan (which blows on the heatsink) and you have good case ventilation there shouldn't be a problem. If you're having problems just stick a small fan on it and you're done.

 

[playboywithamobo]

why can't we apply the new 8.2 from M-FLASH ? I can't find the folder I dunno why.. I'm gonna give my ram model right now.

OCZ3G1600LV1G OCZ Gold Triple Channel 1600 MHZ CL8 3*1 i7 KIT. they're sticked in dimm 2-4-6 , Cpu-z shows that they're sticked in dimm 1-3-5 .. If I try to stick them in 1-3-5 , my comp restarts itself again and again.. this mobo is really interesting. IOH temperature is at least 95 C lol.. My CPU's idle temp is 50C with intel stock fan.. really too high. Seeking Thelmalright Ultra Extreme as soon as possible. I have just paid 155 Euro to X58 Pro so it has enough performance for it's price. I will change it when SATA III and USB 3.0 X58 chipsets release .

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Ram is in the blue slots right? This person can't run the same ram at 1600 on an ASUS board so the ram is probably the issue. Secondly what case are you using because your temps are very high? Right now my CPU is at 32C with stock cooler and my IOH is at 68C. 8.2 bios offers nothing new except SLI since it is just the same bios from the MSI X58 PRO SLI merged.

 

[imported_Shaq]

Originally posted by: playboywithamobo
Interestingly, I have reduced my dram freq to 1333mhz and timings to 7-7-7-21 , it's running healthy. when I set my timings and freq to 1600 8-8-8-24 , it freezes.. I need a newer BIOS update I guess.

It might be the ram. I had the same problem where it was fine at 7-7-7-20 1T at 1140 but it would not go to 1520 even at 8-8-8-24 2T. Tried with 1.75 vDDQ and 1.45 VTT and it still would fail in LinX. That was Crucial ram though not OCZ. I replaced with OCZ Blade and it does great at 7-7-7-21 1T at 1540.

 

[playboywithamobo]

but your ram is standard 1333mhz I guess. mine is standard 1600 so it doesn't need any CPU overclocking for running in 1600 mhz. It's already manufactured in 1600mhz. It's totally about BIOS because at first I was using the default BIOS version and rams were just running in 1066mhz,then I applied v7.3 and they worked in 1600 but comp freezed too much.. 1333 running well. 8.2 have released with memory module update and SLI support but there's a problem with M-FLASH that I couldn't solve yet. M-FLASH bios updater doesn't see the folders in my usb flash drive.. It doesn't see the driver... I don't know why but's it's so annoying. MSI is becoming a shame day by day in my mind.

 

[playboywithamobo]

I have Coolermaster RC-690 with High Power Absolute 750W PSU. I have one exhaust fan and 2 chassis fans in my case. Temps are really really high really wondering how and I don't know why. I applied Zalman Thermal Grease very well to the cpu but temps are still high.. maybe my room is hot nowadays that might be a little effective reason but not the main cause I think..
and yes they're sticked in Blue dimms. black dimms doesn't give permission to system boot.

an important question that waits your answer is ;

is there a really high performance differences between 1600mhz cl8 and 1333mhz cl7 ? I will change my mobo in 3-4 months. So if you say don't worry just use it there ain't no difference,I'm not gonna change my ram. the only substitute for my rams are CL9 corsair XMS3 kits. If it causes the same problem, that would be a bad substitute process for me.. Of course we can't say anything without trying.. but if I change it once, I cannot return to my ocz's due to warranty contract's index.

 

[playboywithamobo]

one more thing ;


why does cpu-z show my rams like running in black dimms while they're sticked in blue dimms ? there's a serious lack of compatible ram support on this board I think. MSI steered me to the left and scored from the right lol ..

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

8.2 doesn't offer additional compatibility it is just the 7.1 equivalent of the SLI version I think. With my ram I didn't adjust anything, just left everything on auto and it is running at the right timings and latency. Also your case can accomodate many more fans so I suggest maxing it out.

This guy had a similar problem:

Finally got my OCZ memory OCZ3G1600LV6GK
Interesting that the BIOS detects it as 1066.

All I changed was the memory ratio to 6 which should put the memory at 1600mhz and it booted right up.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: playboywithamobo
but your ram is standard 1333mhz I guess. mine is standard 1600 so it doesn't need any CPU overclocking for running in 1600 mhz.

IIRC, officially Core i7 only works with 800MHz and 1066MHz DDR3. Doesn't matter that OCZ says the RAM will run at 1600MHz, the CPU (where the memory controller resides) does not officially support it.

Originally posted by: playboywithamobo
M-FLASH bios updater doesn't see the folders in my usb flash drive..

Have you tried putting the BIOS file in the root directory of the flash drive?

 

[playboywithamobo]

I don't have any information about how to put BIOS file in the root directory of the flash drive. Help me though.

also , you say running ram at 1600mhz needs some cpu overclocking ? Right ?

 

[Elganja]

have you triied loosening up the ram timing yet? try 9-9-9-24.

i have the same RAM and to get it to run at 1600MHz i had to loosen it up a little bit...

 

[playboywithamobo]

This RAM made me sick and I just get Corsair XMS3 3x2 CL8 1600mhz kit . now I'm gonna run prime95 to test stability. I have set the timings to 8-8-8-24 2N and dram voltage to 1.65 . RAMs are sticked in Black ones which MSI advises. Sorry for giving wrong info. My OCZ's were also sticked in Black Dimms too. Blue dimms make pc doesn't boot. and close open close open to pc..

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
This guy had a similar problem:

Finally got my OCZ memory OCZ3G1600LV6GK
Interesting that the BIOS detects it as 1066.

If there's an option for XMP in BIOS, enable it. That's what sets the memory automatically to the higher speed.

Originally posted by: playboywithamobo
I don't have any information about how to put BIOS file in the root directory of the flash drive. Help me though.

also , you say running ram at 1600mhz needs some cpu overclocking ? Right ?

Just put the file on the flash drive but NOT in a folder.

The CPU can run at stock speeds. I'm just saying that Intel specified that the Core i7 only has up to 1066MHz memory support. Core i5 (or whatever it will be called) will "officially" support DDR3-1333. Woot?

 

[playboywithamobo]

I hav already tried it but the result is the same. That Modules doesn't show any XMP option but when I stick new xms3 rams into the dimms , CPU-Z showed the XMP option there.. My comp is stable at 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 2N @ 1.65v with Corsair XMS3 1600mhz 3*2 CL8 Kit . This is the quality difference btw Corsair & OCZ . OCZ always cause idiot problems..

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

My mistake they should be in the black slots.

Originally posted by: playboywithamobo
M-FLASH bios updater doesn't see the folders in my usb flash drive..

Have you tried putting the BIOS file in the root directory of the flash drive?

The reason it won't work is because the 8.x are the SLI version BIOS's and the X58 PRO won't recognize it.

 

[playboywithamobo]

Isn't it the new SLI support BIOS of the X58 PRO ? MSI announced that they will give SLI support to their all X58 Mobos with new BIOS Releases , didn't they ?

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

But those aren't new BIOS's, they are from the discontinued SLI version. I guess we'll have to wait for the next BIOS.

 

[imported_Shaq]

Originally posted by: playboywithamobo
I hav already tried it but the result is the same. That Modules doesn't show any XMP option but when I stick new xms3 rams into the dimms , CPU-Z showed the XMP option there.. My comp is stable at 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 2N @ 1.65v with Corsair XMS3 1600mhz 3*2 CL8 Kit . This is the quality difference btw Corsair & OCZ . OCZ always cause idiot problems..

OCZ only has XMP on one of their lines. I forget which one, but all their high performance memory doesn't have XMP. Have you tried 7-7-7-20 1N at 1600 yet? XMS3 is good memory and should do it. It won't really add much speed but it is free.

 

[playboywithamobo]

if we're talking about Corsair ; 7-7-7-20 1N @ 1600 ; No,I haven't tried it yet. I just set the default 1600mhz timings 8-8-8-24 2N @ 1600 1.65v . I set it to 2N because BIOS says 1N runs faster but may be unstable. I don't want to see any unstability problem again so I refused to get more performance and just took the stability. 1600mhz @ 8-8-8-24 is enough for me though.