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MSI Neo2 Platinum + Athlon 64 3000+ (90nm) problems

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hotel77

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I just installed the Neo2 Platinum and A64 3000+ 90nm last night, and formatted my HD. With normal settings, it runs fine. no hitching or anything. However, when I try to overclock, no matter how small, the board will not even boot up. I have tried increasing the FSB by 1 to 201 (I obviously tried larger overclocks before trying 1) and I also tried using the Dynamic Overclocking at 1% (smallest) and it still would not boot.

In the same setup, I had a p4 3.2C overclocked to 3.6ghz stable, so it doesn't seem like a power issue to me.

I know that overclocking is not "supported," however since I can't even use dynamic overclocking at 1% on the motherboard, there has to be something wrong. I haven't been able to find a way to lock the AGP/PCI bus in the bios, is this done automatically? Any idea's would be appreciated.

My current system is:

WD 30 gig Raptor
Antec True 480
Geforce 6800 Ultra
plextor px708-a
MSI Neo2 Platinum
Athlon 64 3000+ 939 90nm
1 gig OCZ 3500 EB platinum
Thermaltake SilentBoost K8

My previous system was:

WD 30 gig Raptor
WD 120jb 8mb cache
Antec True 480
Geforce 6800 Ultra
plextor px708-a dvd/rw
plextor 48x24x48 cd/rw
Asus P4P800 deluxe
Pentium 4 3.2C (overclocked to 3.6 on air)
1 gig OCZ 3500 EB platinum
 
I've never seen raptors, but if it is SATA then O'Cing without a lock will cause problems. Locks usually are done manually, it may just be a little difficult to find, you might have to enable more advanced options and it may pop up. on my motherboard it is agp/pci ratio, idk about yours though. You also might have to find a different bios version that simple has the option of a lock, some don't. Some of Asus' Bios dont have an option of a lock, I had to change mine for my A8V deluxe.
 
I only played a little bit with an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and 3500+ that I setup for a co-worker. To do any kind of overclocking I found I needed to forgo many "auto" bios settings. I have never found any kind of auto overclock stuff useful.

Set memory timings manually - maybe try something relaxed like 2.5-3-3-10
memory ratio manually to 166 (or 200 depending on your oc approach)
Set voltages manually
Set multiplier.

For A64 overclocking I have worked through finding what kind of HTT I get, then what kind of memory speed I can get, then what kind of high MHz I can get, and then tweaking of tradeoffs.


Make sure your SATA hd is plugged into SATA 3/4. I have heard that only Sata 3/4 is locked.

Good luck.
 
Thanks for the info, I'll try that tonight when I get home. Did you set the HT frequencey to x3, x4 or x5?

One other thing that was interesting: after I installed Core Cell (utility that comes with the Mobo) for some reason my 3.3volt was at 3.17, and my 12 volt was at 11.5 or so.

With no case fans, 1 HD, 1 DVD drive, the 480 Antec power supply should have more than enough juice to fulfil the 3.3 and 12 volt requirements. And in fact it does meet those requirements in the bios when I view it, and it also exceeds 3.3v and 12v on my p4p800 mobo.

I'm not sure if it's just a reporting issue with corecell or the motherboard is bad and can't supply enough power.
 
What BIOS do you have?

Newer BIOS that have support for 90nm's just arrived lately, your board probably has a previous BIOS.

Though the computer will work nothing like overclocking will be possible, you should update your BIOS.

If its updated already, Ill shut up then.

Either way, update us.
 
On the Socket 754 based Neo Platinum the board wasn't locking the SATA 1 and 2 ports correctly but was working on the 3 and 4 ports. Disabling ports 1 and 2 and installing yer raptor on 3 and 4 might be something to try. And also the bios update which ohnoesaz1 recommended. Also set your AGP speed to 67.
 
Ok, so I got a stable overclock of 2.4ghz finally. I haven't really tried to go any higher because the stability is perfect at this speed.

I set the ram at 166, the timing at cas 2.5, 4, 4, 10 and the HT at x4. It was stable, but not as stable as I wanted it, so I moved the SATA drive to slot 3 and it has not crashed with 3 days of uptime, with lots of gaming and intense CPU work. I'm assuming with better ram and a better PSU I could hit 2.6 ghz...but an extra 200mhz wouldn't be worth the money.

I appreciate all your help!







ps: the first thing I did was update my bios 🙂
 
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