MSI Neo2 confirmed to work with AMD X2's w/ 1.9b5 bios

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Markfw900,
How does the 1.9b6 work out for your system?
Is it better than 1.9b5?
 
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I loaded 1.96b and now the BIOS sees 3.5GB but windows only sees 3GB. The second core is supported though...

Edit: Scratch that they both see 3GB

~Rusty
 
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That is very interesting. Judging by the fact it is HIGHLY doubtful this board supports ECC and the quality of English that is used in some of MSI's documents, I still bet the website is correct.

EDIT: Hmm... It does look like the French, German, and Simplified Chinese versions of the manual say with ECC as well. Even still, it doesn't say anywhere that ECC is required to reach any specific amount of memory...

Is there an app that can tell me which DIMM slots have what amount of memory? At least what the BOIS thinks...

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System Properties
CPU-Z Memory tab
CPU-Z SPD tab

Windows thinks there are only 3GB and the BIOS thinks there are only 3GB. CPU-Z, on the other hand, shows 4GB and shows the correct info and serial number for each stick.

Any thoughts?

Thank you,
Rusty
 
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Hey GIwarrior,
I read an article a while back stating that X86 architecture will only support 3gig or so of memory. Whether it's ECC or non-ECC it doesn't matter. I believe ABIT stated that fact, but I can't be sure. It basically said until 64 bit takes over memory on most motherboards will not be recognized correctly.
 
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I'm sorry. I missed something with the 1.8 bios. I can put my 4400+ in my system and have it recognize only 1 core until the offical 1.9 bios comes out and have it work in my systems with no problems. Is this correct? Thanks for the info in advance.
 
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Originally posted by: flick
Hey GIwarrior,
I read an article a while back stating that X86 architecture will only support 3gig or so of memory. Whether it's ECC or non-ECC it doesn't matter. I believe ABIT stated that fact, but I can't be sure. It basically said until 64 bit takes over memory on most motherboards will not be recognized correctly.
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Hmm.. I am running Win x64 if that makes a difference. There are some windows boot paramaters that I can try. Something about /PAE and /3GB. The BIOS tells me it sees only 3 though so maybe there is a BIOS setting I need.

Originally posted by: flick
I'm sorry. I missed something with the 1.8 bios. I can put my 4400+ in my system and have it recognize only 1 core until the offical 1.9 bios comes out and have it work in my systems with no problems. Is this correct? Thanks for the info in advance.
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I ran 1.8 with my 4400+ for 2 days or so without any trouble. Just had the memory issue and the lack of a core. I was worried about the stock BIOS but it POST'ed with the 4400+ and I was able to flash up to 1.8 without a problem.

~Rusty
 
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I tried setting memory timings to 1T but the system wouldn't POST so I reset the CMOS. Now the BIOS is showing 3.5GB again like I thought it was before, and this this time Windows says 3.5GB as well.

This might be the best it gets. I thought it would get up closer to 3.8 or so though because my Tyan Tiger MPX board says that with 4GB installed it will only give you 3.8 or so. Maybe the difference is in the chipset.

I will have to explore to see what setting it was that caused me to lose 512 meg though...

~Rusty
 
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Alright, got my 4400+ running at 2970 at toasty -27C. Thanks for the quick response. Now just going to wait for the 1.9 or 2.0 final bios from MSI so I can utilize the second core.
 
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This is good to know, as I'll drop an X2 in my Neo2 Plat when I get around to rebuilding it. Hopefully by that time, they'll have the snafu's worked out. :cool:
 
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Ok. After further testing I had to drop the FSB to 260 (2860Mhz) because I was getting major graphics glitches/artifacts playing bf1942 Forgotten Hope. Not until I dropped the FSB to 260 did they clear up. Kind of a bummer. I have an X850XT PE card. The AGP appears to be locked so I don't know what's causing the artifacts to appear when I start raising it to 270 where I think I can run stable. Don't get me wrong though. I'm still happy with the overclock considering it's probably higher than most will get with the 4800+ and they'll pay $500 more for it than I did.
 
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Hey Amaroque, that is a nice overclock on air. I'm guessing you got very lucky. What voltage are you running at. Also, will it matter how I flash my k8n neo2? Can I just do it through windows like usual and not have any problems? Thanks.
 
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Originally posted by: flick
I'm still happy with the overclock considering it's probably higher than most will get with the 4800+ and they'll pay $500 more for it than I did.
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How much was the Prometia Mach II though? Congrats on the steep overclock anyways.

~Rusty
 
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Originally posted by: GICodeWarrior
Originally posted by: flick
I'm still happy with the overclock considering it's probably higher than most will get with the 4800+ and they'll pay $500 more for it than I did.
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How much was the Prometia Mach II though? Congrats on the steep overclock anyways.

~Rusty
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Yeah Mach II may have cost me $800, but I've already saved $1000 in not getting high end processors. I get a higher overclock with cheaper processors than the highest end usually, so it was worth it and will continue to be worth it down the road, perhaps for years. Screw water cooling. People are constantly upgrading blocks, pumps, resouvoirs, tubing, distilled water, water wetting and everything else. People buying whole water cooling systems for $300 and $400 and you still see people moan and groan about not getting ther overclock they wanted. And then a new water cooling system comes out six months down the road and their upgrading again along with the processor. People spend so much money over a period of time upgrading and changing when they could pay one big chunk of money on something that will last them 10 years and actually will consistantly work and be done with it all, but that's not the thinking of most people who could probably actually afford a prometia, but don't budget their money or think ahead. Most people think short term, not long.
 
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badsteve1

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whenever i try to flash my bios on the Neo 2 with either of the new bioses, 195 or 196. I get the following message "source file not found".

I definately have the bin file on the same floppy as the flash utility. Any ideas why i could be getting this message?

Thanks
 
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imported_flick

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Once you were in DOS did you put your bios disk in the A: drive and type "dir" at the A:\ to see how the file was written in DOS. Most of those files are named 7025NM~1.BIN and not the entire name of the bin file that you saw in windows. You could also change the name of the bios in windows that's on the A: disk to something shorter.
 
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Why dont you ppl just use winflash and do it into windows??? I mean the X2 will boot on the Neo2 wihout those bioses...Just wont see the 2 cores....
 
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It seems that changing the AGP Aperature from its default setting of 128MB is what causes the BIOS to show 3.0GB instead of the usual 3.5GB out of 4.GB installed. I will try out all the aperature sizes later and report back which ones provide what result.

~Rusty
 
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Also according to that the venice and san diego chipss have no support but it works just fine on bioses 1.62-1.80.....The 4400+ does not work so that may jiove...i haven't heard of too many ppl buying the 4800+ with Neo2 boards to verify that yet.....

seems odd that multiplier seems to be a distinguishment of whether it works or not...that makes no sense!!!
 
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Originally posted by: Duvie
Also according to that the venice and san diego chipss have no support but it works just fine on bioses 1.62-1.80.....
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"NONE" means under testing, not necessarily "no support".

~Rusty
 
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badsteve1

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Hey folks,

With the Neo 2 Platinum and the 196 beta bios, my fan is running like gangbusters with no overclock.

Anyone else having issues with the included fan and this bios?
 
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