MSI HD 7870 Hawk Hits 1400 Core On Air

[Zebo]

They should be out later in the week

At what price? If it's even 7870 retail of $359 I'm starting to think it's not a good deal and it will be more of course. The 7950 is better @800Mhz bone stock and can OC like mad too, a lot more than 300 Mhz that Hawk 7870 is clocking and has higher IPC growing lead even further. Then the MSI 7950 Twin Frozrs also come with all the heavy duty military electronics Hawks have and OC even more than 300Mhz which will destroy 7870..

There is no reason to buy 7870s even this one with 7950s priced where they are. AMD needs to get a clue a discount that chip to card makers so they can actually start selling them. Great chip but about $50 too high. No real price separtation between 7870 and 7950.

I am more looking forward to Power Edition 7850 for playing around with. It's a good value $100 cheaper.

 

[atticus14]

This bodes well for the MSI 7850 power edition thats coming soon i hope. Im getting more excited.

 

[toyota]

Is it? Mine have never scored below 12k.

and you have them oced by over 50% so don't you???

 

[aaksheytalwar]

and you have them oced by over 50% so don't you???

Probably higher I guess, and a high factory oc card with water cooling and extra oc

 

[WMD]

MSI love to do these kind of stunts on cherry picked units. Have everyone forgotten those impressive 950mhz GTX460s? My Hawk locked up at 840mhz with voltage and max fan. One of my mates has one that does no more than 790mhz.

Oh yes stable on 3Dmark11 means nothing. My card can run 3dmark11 at 1030mhz the whole day but crash 30seconds into BF3 unless I lower it to 980mhz. Its the coolest and least stressful test a card can run. Heavy tessellation load just means the rest of the card sit around doing nothing waiting for the tessellator to do its things.

 

[3DVagabond]

MSI love to do these kind of stunts on cherry picked units. Have everyone forgotten those impressive 950mhz GTX460s? My Hawk locked up at 840mhz with voltage and max fan. One of my mates has one that does no more than 790mhz.

No, they were rebranded as 560's. You must have been off that day.

 

[hawtdawg]

The graphics score is only 100 less the 3770k, but the physics score is pretty poor. I don't really understand since physics should like more cores.

Bulldozers still only have 4 FPU's, and they are weak sauce.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

No, they were rebranded as 560's. You must have been off that day.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Bulldozers still only have 4 FPU's, and they are weak sauce.

Bulldozer should have 8 128 bit FPUs, which can combine to create 4 256 bit FPUs. :thumbsup:

 

[Rvenger]

Bulldozer should have 8 128 bit FPUs, which can combine to create 4 256 bit FPUs. :thumbsup:

NVM read wrong.

 

[Zebo]

MSI love to do these kind of stunts on cherry picked units. Have everyone forgotten those impressive 950mhz GTX460s? My Hawk locked up at 840mhz with voltage and max fan. One of my mates has one that does no more than 790mhz.

Oh yes stable on 3Dmark11 means nothing. My card can run 3dmark11 at 1030mhz the whole day but crash 30seconds into BF3 unless I lower it to 980mhz. Its the coolest and least stressful test a card can run. Heavy tessellation load just means the rest of the card sit around doing nothing waiting for the tessellator to do its things.

I don't think they give these cards out for free by the tray load to famous OCers for nothing you know. This is just another form of viral marketing. Still has good parts on boards which should OC better than the rest.

 

[3DVagabond]

Tweaktown O/C'd their review sample to 1.4GHz as well. Ran complete test suite at that clock. It's a very nVidia tilted test suite, but it shows the potential for these chips on a premium platform.

Looking above you can see we got some awesome numbers out of the card with our core coming in at a massive 1400MHz and our memory coming in at 6000MHz QDR. Brilliant!

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Bulldozer should have 8 128 bit FPUs, which can combine to create 4 256 bit FPUs. :thumbsup:

The other way around, actually. It has 4 256-bit FPUs that can be "split" for executing 128-bit FP code.

 

[Rvenger]

The other way around, actually. It has 4 256-bit FPUs that can be "split" for executing 128-bit FP code.

Actually its the OTHER way around No drinks tonight Axel.


"Dual 128-bit Floating point engines – capable of teaming together for 256-bit AVX instructions or operating separately with each core. "

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/amdfx/Pages/amdfx-key-architectural-features.aspx


2 per core which equates to 16 128bit FPUs

 

[Zebo]

This would be THE card to get if it were sub $300 but AMD retardedly lost initiative pricing this so high. People now will wait for nvdias answer after seeing gtx 680/670 and low prices they came in at. Can't believe its still only $20 cheaper than 7950 and sits at $350. Definitly not a mid range buyer price tag for a mid range card.

 

[Skurge]

Tweaktown O/C'd their review sample to 1.4GHz as well. Ran complete test suite at that clock. It's a very nVidia tilted test suite, but it shows the potential for these chips on a premium platform.

Faster than a stock 7970. Need to find out how much it would cost to get here.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

At what price? If it's even 7870 retail of $359 I'm starting to think it's not a good deal and it will be more of course. The 7950 is better @800Mhz bone stock and can OC like mad too, a lot more than 300 Mhz that Hawk 7870 is clocking and has higher IPC growing lead even further. Then the MSI 7950 Twin Frozrs also come with all the heavy duty military electronics Hawks have and OC even more than 300Mhz which will destroy 7870..

There is no reason to buy 7870s even this one with 7950s priced where they are. AMD needs to get a clue a discount that chip to card makers so they can actually start selling them. Great chip but about $50 too high. No real price separtation between 7870 and 7950.

I am more looking forward to Power Edition 7850 for playing around with. It's a good value $100 cheaper.

this

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Faster than a stock 7970. Need to find out how much it would cost to get here.

Real world tests or just 3D Mark? Because real world doesn't scale as well as 3D Mark so that may be misleading.

Don't forget that 7970s too do 30-35% with the stock cooler and sometimes even more.

 

[Skurge]

Real world tests or just 3D Mark? Because real world doesn't scale as well as 3D Mark so that may be misleading.

Don't forget that 7970s too do 30-35% with the stock cooler and sometimes even more.

According to the TT bench. You can see it wins in a lot of the benches. Yeah, thats why I said stock. 7970s are still $250 more here.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Tt bench can't be trusted in this point in time.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Disregard.

 

[Skurge]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_7870_HAWK/31.html
Thats at 1.26Ghz with no voltage

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-radeon-hd-7870-hawk-review/23
That at 1.3Ghz with a little extra voltage.

It's too bad they don't test more games at those settings. So I can see 1.4Ghz regularly beating a stock 7970.