MSI GTX460 1gb for $89AR, $119 Before Rebate

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Roland00Address

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MSI GTX460 1gb for $89AR, $119 Before Rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127646

MSI N460GTX-M2D1GD5/OC2 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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Spec wise this is an interesting card. It has 1gb of memory but a 192 memory bus instead of a 256 memory bus that most gtx460 1gbs and gtx560s possess. Furthermore newegg indicates it uses a gf114 core (560) instead of a gf104 core (460) and it can only sli with a 192bit GF114 core.

At the same time the card is overclocked to gtx560 speed

Normal 560 1gb-810mhz core clock, 1620mhz shader clock, 4004mhz effective memory clock, effective bandwidth 128.1 GB/s
Normal 460 1gb-675mhz core clock, 1350mhz shader clock, 3600mhz effective memory clock, effective bandwidth 115.2 GB/s
Normal 460 768mb-675mhz core clock, 1350mhz shader clock, 3600mhz effective memory clock, effective bandwidth 86.4 GB/s
MSI-OC 460 1gb-810mhz core clock, 1620mhz shader clock, 4004mhz effective memory clock, effective bandwidth 96.1 GB/s for the first 768mb of memory, 32.0 GB/s for the last 384mb of memory

So the card should always be faster than a 460 768mb. In some situations it will be similar to a 460 1gb and in some situations it will be almost as fast as a 560 1gb (non ti)

Read here for more about memory interleaving and how nvidia gets 1gb on a 192bit bus (they are talking about the 550ti but is should be the same logic as the 460 1gb that uses 560 cores.)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4221/nvidias-gtx-550-ti-coming-up-short-at-150/2
 

Roland00Address

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To give you an idea on performance between this custom msi card with other cards I posted some benches below from anandtech.

Crysis Warhead Frost Bench 1680x1050 4AA Enthusiast Shaders, Gamer everything else (numbers from Anandtech reviews the date in parenthesis reference the date of the review the card was most recently benched in. 2011 benches use an i7 920 at 3.33 ghz (Quad Core), 2012 benches use an i7-3960X at 4.3GHz (Hex Core)

32.7 fps-GTX 550ti 1gb (Feb 15, 2012)
37.6 fps-GTX 460 768mb (April 19, 2011)
42.0 fps-GTX 460 1gb (Feb 15, 2012)
48.5 fps-GTX 560 1gb (Feb 15, 2012)

53.6 fps-GTX 560ti 1gb (March 5, 2012)

So the card performance should be somewhere between the bolded parts depending on whether the card needs more shader performance vs more memory bandwidth performance.
 

Zap

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Just in case anyone missed it, this card is the "LE" version with 192-bit memory bus. It is not as good as the 1GB GTX 460 that all the reviews are about. Still, a great value at $90.
 

Castaa

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Just in case anyone missed it, this card is the "LE" version with 192-bit memory bus. It is not as good as the 1GB GTX 460 that all the reviews are about. Still, a great value at $90.

True but the newer version 2 part has a higher clock and memory speed. And this model is slightly overclocked by default.

I think they basically the same speed when its all said and done. though I read the v2 rev is more overclockable since it's based on the geforce 500 series design (GF114 to be exact).

Sadly there are zero reviews on the web!
 

Jim

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Dang, $20 higher at 7am on 3/24/12. Otherwise I was gonna grab one as a backup.
 

bryanW1995

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Yuck, they had the gtx 460 768 for $90 seemingly forever, and I never jumped on an extra...
 

DominionSeraph

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Just in case anyone missed it, this card is the "LE" version with 192-bit memory bus. It is not as good as the 1GB GTX 460 that all the reviews are about. Still, a great value at $90.

This is not a GTX 460 SE (there is no LE). The GTX 460 SE was a 288 core version of the GF104 (normally 336 cores). Memory wasn't its problem -- it had 256 bit GDDR5. It suffered because it only had 85% of the processing power.

This is a GF114 chip with 196 bit memory, so it's a completely different animal. It looks to be fully enabled at 336 cores and it's clocked 135MHz faster than the GF104 GTX 460's. While on a 196 bit bus, its memory is clocked 400MHz faster, so it should have more memory bandwidth than the 768MB GTX 460. (96MB/s vs 86. The 1GB GTX 460 has 115MB/s.)
I don't know how they did 1024MB on 196 bits, though. They did something similar on another 500 series card but I don't remember how that affected memory rates.
 
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